
For today’s edition of Dear Mark, we’ve got a quick two-parter. First, I discuss the pros and cons of ocular sunlight exposure in children (and adults). Should kids leave the house with a pair of wraparound goggles every single time, or are their prepubescent eyes safe without them? If too much sun exposure is bad, is none the best? Then, we cover the pros and cons of getting a vasectomy. Are there real health risks, like increased chances of cancer and/or heart disease? Will you lose functionality down there and experience a drop in testosterone?
Let’s go:
Dear Mark,
The linked WSJ article seems a tad overblown with respect to the risks the sun poses to kids eyes. Would love to get your take.
It’s very similar to the conventional wisdom on sun exposure for skin: less is better, all the way to zero. In my view, that simply can’t be optimal for humans.
I’ve got three girls. Should I be sending out into the world with sunglasses, always??
James
It depends.
While I’m definitely a fan of the sun and regular sun exposure, and I agree that the article is pretty alarmist, there are real issues with too much sun exposure to the eye:
Photokeratitis – Temporary inflammation of the cornea from excessive UV radiation. This is basically a corneal sunburn. Painful but reversible and doesn’t seem to cause any long term complications. Snow-farers know it as snow blindness because the highly reflective snow amplifies the UV. The Inuit even made snow goggles from caribou antlers, cutting slits that allowed just enough light to see without causing snow blindness.
Pterygium – Mostly cosmetic, a pterygium is a blemish along the conjunctiva (the thin layer lining the white of the eye) that can become irritated and inflamed. Evidence shows that UV exposure is a likely risk factor, with outdoor postal workers experiencing higher rates of the condition.
Cataract – The leading cause of blindness, cataracts form when proteins in the lens unravel, become entangled, and absorb pigment that then increasingly obscures the vision. Ocular UVB exposure is a risk factor for cataract formation, which is why French mountain guides – who are constantly outside during the day without much respite – have far more cataract formation and surgery than non-guides.
Overall I’m with you, James. Sunlight is a reality of the outside world and unavoidable if you’re outside; we are creatures of the outdoors. We’ve established that moderate amounts of sunlight are definitely good for our skin and our overall health, and it’s difficult to fathom that going outside for an hour or two without judiciously slapping a pair of Blue Blockers on immediately would place our eyesight in mortal danger. Too much? Sure, that’s true for most stimuli, let alone the light from a massive ball of cosmic energy illuminating. But a normal, sane amount? Given the ubiquity of sunlight in the natural environment and the fact that we’ve evolved in said environment, it seems implausible that any modicum of sunlight is dealing major damage to our eyes.
There may also be benefits to unfiltered ocular sun exposure. We often talk about the dangers of excessive light at night disrupting your sleep by inhibiting melatonin secretion. Well, the opposite happens when you get it during the day: it wakes you up and establishes (or maintains) a healthy, natural circadian rhythm. If you’re always avoiding full spectrum, truly bright daytime light, your rhythm will be off. And sure enough, people who get the most light during the morning and daytime begin producing melatonin earlier in the evening. There’s nothing better than full on sunlight to provide that.
Is there a time for sunglasses? Yes, just as a good UVA-and-UVB-blocking zinc oxide sunscreen can come in handy when you know you’re going to be out in the sun without shade for longer than you and your skin would prefer, a pair of sunglasses that block both UVA and UVB can help protect your eyes in the same situation. Doubly so if you’re in the snow, on a body of water, or at the beach where the power of UV is reflected and magnified; glasses are a good option to have in these situations. I wear ’em myself – just not all the time.
I would provide sunglasses for your girls, not force them. As the pediatric opthomologist in the article even mentions, it’s better to run around and play outside without sunglasses than sit inside and watch TV. Besides, your kids are probably eating nutrient-dense, antioxidant-rich food, and that’s protective of the eye against sunlight damage. A smart, sane position is to get some sunlight directly in your eyes each day. Not a huge amount. Don’t stare into the sun on purpose or anything silly like that. Just go outside without sunglasses on (but handy in case you need them), go about your business, and the light will come to you.
Mark,
My wife and I are done having kids, but we’re also done with condoms and birth control. Neither of us can stand either, so I’m thinking hard about getting a vasectomy. Is there anything I should know? Are there any dangers associated with the procedure and the aftermath? I want everything else to work as intended, ya know?
Thanks,
Tim
Good news, Tim. The evidence strongly suggests that your facilities will remain fully operational, your sex life will improve (or at least stay the same), and your testosterone levels will be unaffected. All they’re doing is capping the vas deferens – the tubes that deliver sperm during ejaculation. You can still ejaculate, and the “body” is none the wiser. You’re just “inactive.”
Associations between vasectomies and various health risks have been proposed, however.
Heart disease: There were very faint inklings of a connection between the two, but recent evidence has ruled it out.
Cancer: Much the same story as heart disease. Suspicion has made way for exoneration. Testicular cancer? No connection.
You might have seen the reports of a new study showing a link with prostate cancer. That’s true, and the headlines are scary. But consider that men who’ve had a vasectomy are probably more frequent visitors to the urologist than intact men. They’ll be receiving more tests in general and there will be more opportunities to take prostate cancer tests. Even still, the increase in absolute risk potentially caused by vasectomy remains low.
Sex with a loved partner is very important for many people. And on a physiological level, it’s extremely healthy. If this vasectomy will help you have more and better and less stress-free sex with your wife, it’s absolutely worth the very slight potential increase in prostate cancer risk. Go for it.
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86 Comments on "Dear Mark: Sun Exposure and Eyesight; Vasectomies"
Good highlight on the vasectomy question. Few people look at surgical procedures in a “primal” scope.
just a PSA regarding vasectomies: make sure you go for your follow-up visit to confirm zero sperm. my husband did not and we had a bouncing baby girl! this was about 3 yrs post vasectomy and 4 months after i started primal. I had (have) PCOS and needed fertility treatments with my previous 3 children. The vasectomy failure rate is about 4%.
I second this. My husband went to his followups, during which his sperm count never went down. It turned out he had 2 vas deferens(s)!! :O
(not sure how to write the plural of that)
He had to have the procedure again, on the other tube. Poor guy. But things went to zero, and we have been “good to go” ever since. 😉
So yeah…. unless you are a gambling man, follow through all the way on this one. 🙂
And just one more warning – even IF sperm counts are confirmed down to 0 at any and all of the follow-ups (3, 6 and 12 months are the usual), there is STILL a chance his body will try to mend things. We did the vasectomy plus fertility awareness method but one month he had gone for a while without clearing the pipes plus I ovulated late due to stress (both were interrelated) and CRAP! From my furious internet research, it seems to most commonly happen around the 3 year mark, especially if both parties are super-duper-primally healthy.
OMG that is terrifying. My husband had one this winter, and if it repairs itself after three years, I’d be 40 and pregnant. And throwing myself off the Brooklyn Bridge. lol
I can’t wait for the men to discuss this. There is a small but intense fear in my heart that my boyfriend will lose his sexual functioning. They are cutting…down there! And we all know the statistics on medical mistakes, doctors being one of the main causes of death. Point me in the right direction to find good medical studies and information so I can avoid mass hysteria googling.
doctors are NOT “one of the main causes of death”. for heaven’s sake. google that to start calming the heck down.
my b/f had a vasectomy over 15 years ago, after his last child, and all the plumbing still works GREAT.
Unfortunately the leading causes of death in America are medical errors, infections from hospitals and side effects from prescription drugs. Combined, these three things establish doctors somewhere around the 2nd or 3rd leading cause of death in the U.S. Acknowledging of course that doctors are not purposely trying to kill you, and are themselves caught in the broken cycle of our terrible health care system….but statistically speaking…I’m going to err on the side of caution and go to the doctor as little as possible, since I enjoy living.
I can’t imagine anyone doing something so drastic as cutting down there. I’d rather go without sex. Profalactic? Lubricant? Anything without mutilation.
The main cause of death is being born
Well played.
You could also look into methods of Natural Family Planning such as the Creighton Model System and Clear Blue fertility monitor. All-natural, no surgery, and very interesting.
Alan Guttmacher: “People who practice birth control are called parents.”
That’s supposed to be “the rythm method,” not “birth control.”
I’m blond and blue-eyed and live in Southern California. I do a lot of hiking outside. I have found that most of the year I don’t even need sunglasses to feel comfortable, and during the times of the year when I do need them, I usually only need them during the brightest part of the day or if I’m experiencing high altitude where the sun is more intense, snow, water, or walking on really light-colored pavement or rocks. I think getting full sun on your skin and in your eyes really does help you feel more alert and happy, too.
A doubly good article for me considering that my children spend a fair amount of time out in the sun of summer Seattle. What I’ve noted for myself at least is that even though I am pale-skinned and used to burn now that I am primal I tan instead of burn. I credit the change to the tri-fecta of vitamins A, D, and K2 from a daily regimen of fermented cod liver oil, hard, grass-fed cheese, and homemade kefir.
Interesting combination of vitamins there. I knew Vit D could help with sunburns but not the other 2. Might have to try and experiment a bit and see if that help my pale skin tan a bit.
From what I understand the tri-fecta helps with absorption of the three involved and prevents toxicity.
And as long as you are primarily grain free the trifecta helps in preventing cavities in my experience. Up until I went primal I would have a couple of cavities a year or show some signs of tooth decay. Since going primal and taking fermented cod liver oil in addition to some form of vitamin k2 (from kefir, hard cheese, high vitamin butter oil, or simply supplementation) I have yet to have a cavity.
I’m not much of a cheese connoisseur…not that I don’t like cheese. I do, but I know nothing about what qualifies as hard cheeses and such. What are some good healthy cheeses to start on that are mild flavored and pack a lot of benefits?
My typical cheese choices are sliced and shredded. lol
I consume grass fed kerrygold cheese. Costco here in Seattle just recently started carrying kerrygold dubliner cheese. Before finding it at Costco I bought it at Trader Joe’s.
Kefir is a great source of k2, since it is made from bacterial fermentation.
Wonder if there are any studies why some patients / couples have improved satisfaction? I’d argue (without any evidence at hand) that the improvement is all physiological rather than physical. If you as a couple had been using condoms or other prevention aids, and always worried about getting pregnant, thatn I think the mental relaxation from not have to think about this is where the increase satisfaction is coming from. Still a very valid improvement. As they say, 90 percent of sex in between the ears. But I wouldn’t suggest a man consider vasectomy for a physiological improvement.
Do you mean phychological?
Do you mean psychological?
I did, thanks for catching that… benefits are psychological. (think spell checker got me)
Yup! Sex gets a lot better if you’re not mentally going “please no more kids, no more kids! This is how we got kids before!” in the background. Both my husband and I consider this one of our best decisions. Just don’t rush your recovery or you’ll end up back in bed. Other than that, no problems!
Many eye doctors recommend the use of sunglasses any time one is outside, dawn to dusk, year around. The theory is that sun contributes to ARMD and various other eye issues. I find this a bit doubtful with regard to casual sun exposure. To paraphrase an old axiom: If our eyes needed constant protection from the sun, we’d have all been born wearing sunglasses. On the other hand, if one is out in the bright sun all day long, it seems only sensible to protect the eyes as you would any other part of your body.
I specialize in selling Blue Blocker sunglasses in my business. I wear them at night if I’m watching some TV. I don’t wear sunglasses the first half of the day, but slide some on for the second half. Many american indian fisherman went blind from always looking in the water. I like the balance of the article. Get some good sun exposure without sunglasses and then protect.
i recently went to a seminar by Meir Schneider/
(who was born legally blind & trained himself to “see” when he was 17 by Bates method,
now he drives with his naked eyes).
he is very much against sunglasses, esp. putting black glasses on a blind child. he attributed a significant part of gaining his vision to sunlight.
now i rarely wear sunglasses sunscreen.
(i wear a hat if i need protection)
cheers,
Good information about the vasectomy. My wife and I were looking at this option down the road once we are done having kids. Was always a little antsy what effect this had on the body and hormonal levels.
P.S. Regarding equatorial Africa. I remember seeing a documentary of men in West Africa who fished for sardines (no, not the little kind, the 1 to 2 foot long ones). They went out to sea in basically big canoes. They only wore a kind of loin cloth. Their skin was so black that it shined blue in the sun. They didn’t wear sunglasses.
“If this vasectomy will help you have…less stress-free sex…, it`s absolutely worth…”
This should read “less stressful” or “more stress-free,” right? Either that or
a) my grasp of the English language is way more tenuous than I thought.
b) I am totally misunderstanding the core concept of this whole “Primal” thing.
Good catch! You are correct, that should read “less stressful” or “more stress-free.” I totally missed it.
My wife and I try to work like a team, so I would love to know where the greater health risks lie between using the ring and getting a vasectomy.
I had a vasectomy five years ago. Best decision ever.
No change in drive, function or “end product.” Zero worry about pregnancy during sex.
Added benefit of three days of solid post-op sympathy including primal meals in bed.
I have never liked sunglasses–makes everything so dark–and use them rarely. I generally wear a sun visor to shade my eyes.
May I suggest Blue Blocker sunglasses. They brighten things up while relaxing the eyes. They create contrast and work well in shady, as well as sunny locations. Mark recommends them at night while watching TV too! They are very good for your eyes.
Thanks for the suggestion. I have a pair that I bought for TV viewing at night. I guess I didn’t realize that I could use them during the day.
I had 2 c-sections. The 3rd child was a surprise but the first two were planned. I actually found an OB/Gyn that was going to let me VBAC (but he still kept talking about using pitocin). So I opted for the 3rd c-section and got the tubes tied. Before the birth, my husband an I constantly chanted to each other “free birth control!”. That was nine years ago and we’re still very happy with our 3 children.
I tried to get my tubes tied in my twenties when I had insurance that would have covered it – no one would do it. I’ve known since I was a kid that I didn’t want any. It was the most infuriating experience of my life, being told that I would “change my mind when I met someone.” I am now thirty, married to someone who has never wanted kids, and I still can’t get it done. Vasectomy it is.
Question about sun exposure: does it matter whether you’ve got blue eyes or brown eyes? I have blue eyes, and I’ve always been told that blue-eyed people should take more precautions around the sun than brown-eyed people. Is that true, or does it not matter?
My optometrist has advised me to wear sunglasses regularly during summer for this reason. According to him sun exposure tends to negatively impact the sight of people with paler eye colours more than those with darker eye colours (though that being said, my eyes are hazel and I still have this issue).
I guess that does make sense. I spent a day outside without sunglasses the other day, and I am definitely regretting it now. My eyes feel a bit inflamed. Not doing that again.
Do it and never look back. My vasectomy is the only thing I ever got my money back on thousands of times over!
I’ve had zero complications from my vasectomy. …and I’ll echo the improved sex life and going for the follow up appt. Take the Dr’s advice and sit on a bag of for the remainder of the day and you shouldn’t have troubles.
I always say my husband getting a vasectomy was the nicest thing he ever did for us. So freeing to have that worry taken out of the bedroom and so nice for me to not have to take any drugs
Doe’s the surgeon wear sunglasses when performing a laser vasectomy?
His future’s so bright, he’s gotta wear shades…
I’ve always had very light-sensitive eyes and squinting against bright sunlight for a long time tends to gives me headaches and make me very tired. It’s also very distracting. Sunglasses all the way for me.
I wear prescription glasses all the time for my terrible eyesight, and switching between regular and sunglasses frequently can be annoying at times (going in & out of shops for example), but it’s totally worth it. Also, squinting gives you crow’s feet 😉
I’m glad you mentioned this because nobody else has, so far! It’s not that uncommon. My husband has occasional bouts of pain. Overall, the vasectomy (20 years ago) was great, but I don’t know if he’d do it again. People should google “testicular pain after vasectomy” or some such term to find more info. wikipedia has an entry (“post-vasectomy pain syndrome”). Don’t want to scare people, but somebody did ask and he deserves to get a full answer.
High levels of Vitamin C are associated with low levels of cataract formation. In Europe they use l-carnosine in eye drops to prevent cross linkage of fibrils leading to cataracts. You can get these drops here also (“Visual Ocuity” is one brand) and the l-carnosine is listed under inactive ingredients. They are marketed as plain lubricating drops but they will give you the l-carnosine advantage.
Tell that to my aunt, who had twins at 54 years old. Auntie had periods until she was 6 months along. Rhythm failed her. Or to my co-worker, whose little boy made his debut when she was 47 and in complete early menopause, as the doctors said. You’re good to go, they assured her. So she did. Oops!
And really! How does one establish monthly rhythm without cycling? Nope. Sorry. “Plummet” does not equal “goes to zero.” A vasectomy is well worth the time and trouble.
I’m a 58 year old green eyed, easily tanned woman who grew up in Florida, and spent many hours outside in full sunlight. I never wore sunglasses as a child and I developed cataracts at age 48. Don’t take chances with your children’s eyes or your own eyes. It’s a real risk with real consequences.
I have to add – I had a serious Pterygium when exposed to sunlight too much. I was on drops and considering surgery (but knowing it would grow back). It actually was bad enough to cause pain. My sunglasses helped, but going primal eliminated the issue. I now get just as much if not more sunlight and the Pterygium has never reoccurred.
Also, my husband went to “Dr. Snip” in Seattle… totally fast procedure, very little down time & pain. I think the process had been made much easier in the last couple of years with technology, etc.
PS I never did tell my kids why I kept carrying around a bag of frozen peas for 3 days…I guess they’ll figure that out some day! Our 4/year old gave me the weirdest looks. Some day you’ll get it buddy.
I had my vasectomy a few decades ago. I didn’t want to add to the mass of humanity. It worked a treat. No kids; cheaper than a school uniform. Thank you Mr Mark.
Oh, I had snow blindness at about 15 years… didn’t know it could happen; hadn’t ever had a pair of sunglasses. Man did that hurt. I couldn’t decide whether it hurt more to have my eyes open or shut.
After three thirty five years of alpine guiding, I know when to wear them. I love to use my amber goggles skiing in bad light. Amber lenses are pretty good (mtn bike) riding in the forest. I hear they are pretty good for getting to sleep, as well.
“with the women enjoying the biggest increases in satisfaction. 93% of the males and 97% of the females would “recommend and do vasectomy again,” such were the benefits.”
No suprise there… it’s not about the pleasure of having sex for the woman…it’s the relief at not having to nag her husband ever again!
Ha ha
Sun exposure is all about moderation. If you’re healthy, your body will make it obvious when you’ve had enough. No sun at all is bad news. Protection is a good thing once we’ve had our dose!
Good to know about the vasectomies! Some day…haha.
Regarding the vasectomy, my personal experience is that my desire/function remained the same or actually increased (probably due to not worrying about more children…5 is enough!) but the intensity of my orgasms decreased dramatically. I did not think to research this side-effect prior, and it probably would not have altered my decision, but it is somethign to be aware of.
http://www.dontfixit.org
Still want a vasectomy?