New and Noteworthy: What I Read This Week—Edition 126

Research of the Week

Seaweed-based edible food packaging.

Lower omega-3 index, higher risk of degenerative rotator cuff tears.

Researchers can now use cave sediments to derive ancient human DNA.

Subtraction is hard.

If you’ve had Covid and want the vaccine, you might only need one dose.

New Primal Blueprint Podcasts

Episode 483: Terri Cole: Host Elle Russ chats with Terri Cole, relationship and female empowerment expert.

Episode 484: Joe Cohen: Host Brad Kearns chats with Joe Cohen about using personal genetics to optimize health and lifestyle.

Health Coach Radio: Erin and Laura chat with Natalie Gensits about marketing.

Media, Schmedia

I’m sure this will go off without a hitch.

Interesting Blog Posts

A comprehensive history of humans, hunting, and meat-eating.

Dietary linoleic acid and torpor.

Social Notes

Incredible power.

His faith is strong.


Everything Else

Humans can taste the difference between deuterium water and regular water.

A US senator proposes a bill to stop “Meatless Monday.”

You might be a mouth breather, but at least you’re not a leg breather.

Things I’m Up to and Interested In

Podcast I enjoyed: The one I did with Jorge Cruise, the Zero Hunger Guy.

Interesting article: Can you survive medical school believing in keto?

What do you think?: Should governments continue lockdowns?

This is terrible: British Dietetic Association supports the consumption of processed food for this one weird reason.

Fascinating: Jordan Peterson talks to Wim Hof, the Iceman.


The people at FilterOff have created FREE online dating events specifically for the Paleo & Keto communities.

Question I’m Asking

What’s your 5-year outlook? Where will you be? Where will the world be?

Recipe Corner

  • I hope you’re doing sheet pan meals. This chicken and asparagus recipe is a fantastic entry point.
  • Honey garlic salmon (honey, while being a sugar, actually reduces harmful compounds from forming during cooking when used as a marinade).

Time Capsule

One year ago (Apr 10 – Apr 16)

Comment of the Week

“Today was a good chance to spend more time outside for me. I’ve lately been going swimming 3 days a week at Golden Gardens beach. On nice days it’s really tricky parking there, like an airport. Today when I parked I took all I needed (bathing suit, towel and a jumprope) in my grab-bag so I wouldn’t go back to my car until I was actually leaving, so as not to disappoint a line of waiting cars. Since Chopin’s 1st piano concerto was on the radio when I arrived at the park I took an extra walk in the woods.

While this beach can be so crowded it may actually be good to have a mask available, I am not about to walk on a lonely trail in the woods wearing a mask, and I feel like a cat petted backwards when I see something doing that. This is time to enjoy my main guilty pleasures: hiking without a buddy, unmasked and unshod, and listening to classical music.”

-Sound like you’ve struck a great balance, Billy Gard.

About the Author

Mark Sisson is the founder of Mark’s Daily Apple, godfather to the Primal food and lifestyle movement, and the New York Times bestselling author of The Keto Reset Diet. His latest book is Keto for Life, where he discusses how he combines the keto diet with a Primal lifestyle for optimal health and longevity. Mark is the author of numerous other books as well, including The Primal Blueprint, which was credited with turbocharging the growth of the primal/paleo movement back in 2009. After spending three decades researching and educating folks on why food is the key component to achieving and maintaining optimal wellness, Mark launched Primal Kitchen, a real-food company that creates Primal/paleo, keto, and Whole30-friendly kitchen staples.

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  1. They never had the power to institute a lockdown. We are no longer even pretending to be free. The death rate is far too low to justify tyranny which I would not buy at any price.

    1. Did anyone you know get really sick or spend a week in ICU? This is not real until it is happening to you or someone you love. It seems that people can live in alternate universes within their opinion bubbles. My best friend’s husband is still suffering from long-term consequences of Covid-19. This is not about tyranny but about trying to find a reasonable balance in a severe public health crisis and respecting other people’s lives.

      1. My cousin died (they were luckily able to restart his heart and he is recovering now, months later). I’ve had several other family member contract Covid to various levels of sickness……..And I still feel that the lockdowns were wrong.

    2. I really, truly wish, with all my being, that you were wrong……..but, you are NOT and that is frightening. The worst part is that so many people believe that these evil people are out to do ‘good’. We can hope beyond hope, that people start to see what these megalomaniacs have planned for our world.
      Oftentimes, I wish I were one of those believers. Life would be less stressful thinking that these billionaires are out there helping the world and being philanthropic. It’s a horrible feeling when you realize that because of money, these people run the world. The feeling of doom knowing that us ‘peons’ are helpless is depressing.

    3. I totally agree with you – this is all part of a bigger plan and it’s frightening how they are all doing it in plain sight. The media controls how all of this is spun, so the sheep don’t get suspicious. Bill Gates does everything with an eye toward population control/reduction, not philanthropy.

      1. You conspiracy theorists scare me far more than Bill Gates does. Geez.

    4. As a farm girl born and raised, healthy, well raised meat, game and fish made up our diets supplemented by home grown veggies. My heart is with every rancher, farmer and Citizen agriculture worker. Vive le MEAT and FISH.

    5. I do pulmonary medicine for a living and have cared for hundreds of patients with severe COVID-19 infection and have seen many people…young and old…die from this illness…and I think lockdowns are/were wrong. Are there healthy people who have severe effects from COVID infection? Sure. But the great majority of people suffering the most severe effects are elderly, obese and/or have significant metabolic disease. Why do I think lockdowns are wrong?
      -this is a free county. It is up to us as individuals to choose for ourself how much “risk” we are willing to take in any given situation. I choose to drive my car to work 5 days a week in traffic which, arguably, is more dangerous and presents more risk than COVID infection.
      -our nation is WRECKED metabolically speaking. I keep stats on our COVID patients and, last week, the average BMI of patients under age 65 at my medical center was 37…this isn’t just a little overweight, this is very obese and starting to approach “extremely obese” criteria. This trend has been consistent since COVID became a thing. We need to address the root cause of our woes instead of thinking that lockdowns, vaccines, social distancing and masks are going to solve all our problems. “Get a vaccine and come to Krispy Kreme for a free donut”…this is the same sort of mentality the majority of my mainstream medical colleagues share.
      -Are there cases of seemingly healthy people who will get severe COVID infection and even die from the illness? Yes. There are also more people than you would think who die from heart attacks under age 40, for example. Seeing these outliers is very difficult because it resonates with us, presumably, healthy and “younger” people. Of the hundreds of COVID patients I’ve had over the past 14 months, I can think of maybe one or two patients I’ve had who did not fit the usual description and were pretty healthy (I see primarily ICU and intermediate care patients…aka very sick).

      I know several seemingly healthy people who had a severe COVID illness. Some were hospitalized and some weren’t. Did the illness suck? Yes. Did they feel like crap for several weeks? Yes. Is it a few months later and it’s taking some time to recover their cardiovascular fitness? yes. Do we know the long-term effects of even a mild to moderate covid infection? No. But who cares. Really. We will see what happens and figure it out as we go. Let’s stop shutting everything down (causes lots of other problems) and let’s get back to normal and focus on the real issue…the terrible metabolic health of our nation.

  2. Let’s look at lockdowns (and masks) scientifically. Hey, we even have numerous randomized controlled trials (RCT’s), the gold standard, done for more than 12 months.

    North Dakota locked down, South Dakota did not. Check the curves (ND is worse).

    New York locked down, Florida opened up. Check the curves (NY is worse).

    Michigan locked down, Texas opened up. Check the curves (Michigan is worse).

    Most European countries locked down, Sweden stayed open. Check the curves. Enough said.

    This big scientific experiment disproves the hypothesis that lockdowns (and masks) are effective.

    Keeping lockdowns (and masks) is doing the same thing over and over, hoping for a different result. That’s the definition of insanity.

      1. CDC state comparison for the US, Worldometers for the deaths/million by country. There’s plenty more out there (including the drop in excess deaths in Sweden’s under 65 population in 2020 compared to 2014-2019)

    1. Correct. Even CDC data, apparently our new bible and cult scripture shows not what mainstream media is fearmongering everyone. CDC. A quasi government so called agency thoroughly corrupted by conflict of interests and same technocrats, billionaires agendized politics. I’m 72. I’ll be damned if I give up what life I have left for stupidity of politicians and from no nothings and “fact checkers” anywhere.Their so called concern for safety and concern for others has broken the social construct between humans —a necessary part of building our immune system. Destroyed lives everywhere. I’m not giving up anything for the likes of people who try to guilt me. I’m not just a bag of bio weapon walking around with a useless mask on. Y’all look like zombies. Walking dead. . I’m a human being. Sadly people die. Many many More from heart disease and diabetes. From the advice and order of the very political system we have and big Pharma. I’m moving on. You all can do what you like. Off the edge of your COVID flat earth if you want. No vax for me either. CDC? Admits that only about 6% of COVID deaths are ACTUALLY directly COVID but from the miserable health conditions of people pushed by the same villains above. You lockdown lovers—failure and continued death on your watch. Deal.

    2. That makes so much sense. Most people that are fearful avoid reading information like this. They are in lock step with their governments. Example? The people in Canada. I can’t get my family to even open up an article on this. They think it is a bunch of lies. It is very sad and scary where their heads are.

  3. Five year plan? I guess to go from chasing my nine month old around the house to chasing a five year old around the yard. Oh, and hoping she learns to sleep in on the weekends.

    1. Because it’s not a vaccine; it’s an experimental biological agent that will only reduce symptoms if a person contracts COVID. That’s the reason Fauci says even though a person received the “jab”, masking and social distancing are still needed.

  4. Meatless Monday — Government reinvents wheel? Meatless Fridays are centuries old.

  5. Jordan Peterson? Seriously? I’m not impressed. In fact, I’m pretty dismayed.

  6. I found your comment on the “war on meat” subject very interesting. I often find myself defending meat eating these days. I started keto two years back, and almost immediately got super results loosing weight, lowering high blood pressure etc. When I try to explain that meat consumption is an absolutely good thing from a nutrition point of view and can be sustained in a invironmentally good way if we put an effort into it, people (colleagues, friends, my daughters and even my wife) throw the “everybody knows that meat is so bad” pseudo argument at me. The danishgovernment has posed a bill on meat free days from the same mainstream assumption, and danish dept. of health advises strongly against meat. I have gradually realized that it is extremely difficult to get anyone to just listen to arguments, because they “know” that they are right. It is frustrating and concerning. Thanks for your good work Mark. Nik, Denmark

    1. Yes, too much of that “I know because I read an article in the media,” when often, more often than not, the person who wrote that article was a journalist and not a scientist. I was a vegetarian for 26 years, but over 6 years ago I gave it up for a Paleo diet and feel so much better for it. I used to think vegans were misguided, though not milirant: now, I find they really are quite militant! I resent being told I should eat foods stuffed with grains, especially as grain-growing takes up so much space and so many resources, not to mention fertilisers and pesticides.

    2. hi Nik, yes, it’s difficult and confusing, because a lot of those articles on ”meat is bad” are referring to research on conventionally/industrially raised ruminants/pork/chicken, not regeneratively raised animals.

      so it’s very difficult to explain the difference. it’s my field of study, and i’m a regenerative animal and plant farmer, and it’s STILL difficult to explain succinctly, because it’s so much more complex a way to have animals than the simplistic ”cows are bad” argument.

      simply, i can say ”nature has always had plants and a full complement of animals and they depend on eachother for survival. regenerative agriculture mimics nature’s processes and actually benefits the planet and mitigates climate change.”
      but people look at me blankly, uncomprehendingly in response, because truly, it requires a good deal of knowledge to understand those statements and most people have never planted a seed or worked with an animal according to how nature does it.. (their pets don’t count, they are almost artificially kept when compared with how nature handles animals). most people don’t try to understand nature at all, frankly. they just like being in it sometimes.
      anyway, it can be very discouraging, especially on places like twitter, where they just barrage one with ”vegan/cows suck” articles and just don’t have a single clue…
      i can’t educate the world, but i try, one person at a time if they show interest…

  7. The war on meat is full on everywhere in the world.

    Study after study is being projected by the “media” that meat is bad for us and the environment, while in the meantime processed Vegan crap is being launched to substitute.

    Not too mention farmland bought up by Bill Gates.

    I hope that you’re right that they’re not going to win and I’m sure doing my part.

    I point out to people that meat is our DNA and has been for millions of years. We wouldn’t be here today if we did not have some meat in our diet.

    I also show them how the media has been lying to us and is sponsored by the powers that now seem to rule the earth.

    I shop local at my butcher and buy the best meat I can.

    I also no longer buy at Amazon or any other big corporation, whether it’s food, cosmetics or whatever. No Nestle, Unilever etc.

    I also learn to be more self-sufficient and grow some of my own food.

    In 5 years time I hope to live in a country where the government is not bought and paid by Bill Gates and the rest of the billionaire creeps.

    If someone knows which country that could be let me know!

  8. thank you for doing what you can against this giant corporate industry who is against meat consumption for monetary reasons(they can make much more money selling expensive replacements). Use your voice and money to fight against the vegan plague

  9. You are spot on about the war on meat, and how, in the end, it won’t work, because it can’t work. What the likes of Bill Gates omit to inform everyone is that if we all stopped eating meat and fish, without supplements we’d become extremely ill, our brains would stop working and we’d die prematurely. Like you said, it’s in our DNA. I’d love to know how many supplements those invested in a global plant-based diet are taking!

  10. This argument about sustainability…. why is there no uproar about the enormous ecological cost of farming crypto? It’s unreal with absolutely no benefit to society. Frictionless transactions???? How much friction do you experience with Apple Pay or any cc? I’m completely stumped. I see it as a way to enable illegal transactions and a ponzi scheme that will leave lots of people holding the bag.

  11. I wholeheartedly agree with your “eat meat” consensus. Our canine teeth prove we were meant to eat meat. I do hope you’re correct in thinking we meat eaters will win the ‘anti meat’ war with time. Kathy Renfroe, Seymour, TN

  12. Spot on. I wondered why Gates was buying land. I knew it was tied to some agenda of his. I agree with importance ,more than ever, to buy local. Thank you for that perspective.

  13. I like this – the documentary Kiss the Ground I watched this weekend talks about how regenerative farming with animal agriculture is the solution to climate change. Makes you more motivated to spend a little more money on grassfed patured animals if you can ???. I can’t think of a better cause. Saving human health and the health of the planet.

    1. Great film – I can’t stop thinking about it! It’s so impactful and informative that I watched it twice in one week. US public needs to learn the science behind carbon, soil & farming. Instead of providing a positive solution, US gov’t is mandating we cut out things like gas powered cars, coal, etc. which won’t make a fast enough difference in the carbon in our atmosphere. Time to stop the farm subsidies for conventional farming and implement regenerative farming techniques world-wide.
      Kiss the Ground is a must-see for every adult (and all kids) as we can all make a difference by adopting a regenerative diet and supporting the regenerative farmer. Shop your local farmers’ market as much as you can!

  14. Totally agree with your “war on meat” blog! My husband and I have 69 acres of wooded land and enjoy deer hunting. Cooking and eating venison is something we will NEVER give up! Healthy, delicious, lean red meat! We also buy beef from a local farm that raises and processes their own cows and theirs are the BEST steaks we’ve ever eaten. We are both slim, healthy and active (marathon runners, hikers) and will never switch to a vegan nor vegetarian diet!

    1. My wife and I also hunt deer for the venison, buy locally-raised grass fed beef and lamb, and grow a big vegetable garden. We also do a lot of foraging for other foods (mushrooms, wild fruits, etc). We have no intention of ever giving up meat. People who advocate for giving up meat are science-illiterate, and unfortunately, that is a large percentage of our population these days. You may be right that the anti-meat folks will not win in the end, but they their ignorance can cause a lot of damage to the planet in the meantime, unfortunately. I just wish the people that are so anti-meat would turn their attention instead to processed junk food, and the mega-corporations that make a fortune selling it to us (and making us sick in the process)…..that is the REAL problem with our Western diet!!

  15. I see this as a complex issue that has no easy solution. I completely agree that there are important nutrients in meat that can’t be obtained any other way. I tried various diets over my life, including vegetarian, raw vegan, low fat, etc, and I am much healthier on a paleo/keto-type regimen, which I’ve been on for more than 10 years. This way of eating takes the torment out of maintaining a healthy weight and energy levels. (I don’t get why dieticians are still promoting “balanced” high carb/low fat diets.) I eat meat, raw dairy and eggs from local farms, do my best to not contribute to anything having to do with factory farming. However, I also feel privileged to have such options. I live in an area of the US (Western NC) where there are several local tailgate markets of ethically raised and organically grown foods, and I have the means to purchase these foods. Many people live in food deserts and in or close to poverty. And, with a growing population, how can we have enough good, well sourced animal foods available to all? Most rely on factory farmed meat, which is an abomination, for animals, people and the planet. I would be interested in hearing about ideas of solutions to this big picture dilemma. I know one solution is moving toward eating insects.

  16. Good Sunday Morning Mark, great read this morning on the war on meat…I am a Chiropractor and an Anatomy and Physiology instructor at a college here in Georgia and I am doing my part in the fact that my students/patients are being informed about the benefits of meat consumption and a healthy primal diet. I read Primal Blueprint almost 6 years ago and have been eating primal ever since then. I feel wonderful, sleep better and at 55 feel like I am 35. I will definitely continue to hunt and fish and tell as many people here in my part of the world about living the way we did 20000 years ago. Thank you for all you have done to help me and all the people in the Primal world. Have a great day.

  17. Bill Gates’ attack on meat, and I guess I have to be blunt here, is as anti-science as numerous things he is involved in and proposing.

    I’ll leave it at that and not get into specifics of other things people would find very controversial because it differs from what their government and the media are telling them. The same ones controlled by Bill Gates and the Great Reset cultists.

    He and his friends are depopulation advocates, and overpopulation is another anti-science anti-facts myth. But make no mistake they’re serious about reducing Earth’s human population drastically. They’re a genocidal maniacs and we should prepare accordingly.

    1. Yes, Bill Gates is unhinged on so many levels it’s terrifying, and even Chris Wallace is glorifying him on Fox News without asking a single hard question. Can’t stand the guy.

  18. Regarding “There’s a war on”. I am happy to see that the regenerative farm movement highlights raising beef cattle in ways that actually improve co2 sequestration and benefit the environment. They are actually essential in the process. The Kiss the Ground movie shows this process at its best and summarizes what we need to do to reverse global warming, and surprise, surprise, it includes raising beef cattle responsibly. I am excited to begin to see these positive solutions that don’t just demonize the entire beef industry.

  19. There is a great documentary countering the plant only diet argument called..Sacred Cow. Check it out if you have not already seen it.


  20. For many the issue is animal welfare. I have been keto or low carb for decades, so obviously eat meat. Still, I completely understand the concerns people have about the horrible treatment of farm animals.
    Eating beef that has been pastured its entire life and humanely slaughtered is entirely different than eating factory-farmed, hormone and antibiotic laden feedlot beef. The same is true for pork and poultry. We win this battle by making better choices. We need to stop buying meat products from producers that don’t take animal welfare seriously, period. If that means reducing our meat consumption to be able to afford higher quality products, so be it.
    As far as I am concerned, anyone who eats veal is part of the problem. Sorry, chaining a calf so it can’t move it’s entire, miserable year of life is a practice that needs to stop.
    I know beef producers who can legitimately say that their cattle only have one bad day. I know pork producers where unrestrained pigs roam gardens and fields.
    It’s up to us to solve this problem through better choices, and I believe that if we don’t then deservedly, meat production will ultimately be regulated away.

    1. I agree on veal. I don’t eat that. But I do love lamb. Totally different, I understand. And I use Butcher Box and mostly pastured animals. Still, these people terrify me.

  21. Good morning Mark,
    I have been reading your blogs/emails for years. My friend, health coach and trainer recommended you to me and between the great advice and education I have learned from Debbie, you and a few others both of you have recommended my husband and I have greatly benefitted. That you for the email today about meat, just like many of the things the powers that be are trying to convince the world to believe…we are clean meat and seafood lovers and always will be! I appreciate your laid back style and way of communicating the good information about food and exercise that you freely share. Thank you!

  22. In regard to the War on Meat. The government needs to get out of the way of the public people. They need to stop telling people what to do and what we can or cannot buy. Period.

  23. I’m not sure I like this vegan idea being billed as a ‘war’. If we think like that they become an enemy, whereas I think we need to talk about real solutions and bring common sense to the fore. Both sides need to work together. I heard that if different grazing strategies were used, cattle farming could actually become a net carbon sink! It’s about the way the meat is produced. It’s about not chopping down rainforests to grow the feed, and yes, actually, there are too many people damanding too much meat. The Earth can’t support billions of large carnivores (David Attenborough makes the point that they are rare in nature), so cutting down our consumption might be wise while the Earth rides out the climate crisis and we change our farming methods. Also population can’t expand forever on a finite planet, that’s just common sense. I see having a one child family and eating a little less meat as a personal sacrifice worth making, as I want there to actually be an inhabitable planet here for my daughter when she’s my age. But go vegan? No, I won’t sacrifice my own health or hers to that extent. I buy free range and organic when I can, as Mark suggests.

    1. If you don’t think this is a “war” and you aren’t ready to fight it, y ou will have a rude awakening. Common sense solutions are not part of the left agenda–they are religious fanatics about all this. So get your armor on and forget about common sense. No Easter Bunny, either.

  24. The push for meatless is disheartening. Meat is bad for the planet because of the way concentrated animal food lots are run. Let’s face it, the animal industry needs revamping. The best society is an unprocessed omnivore society that eats locally and responsibly. Indigenous peoples ate that way and thrived. Vegetarianism relies too heavily on transportation. And it’s a big city luxury. The produce becomes more expensive. No one wants to see that it’s a bad process. They just say meat is bad. It’s in humane. I grew upon a farm. We ate what we raised and grew and hunted. We traded eggs for honey and orchard fruits that we didn’t raise. We loved our animals and ate them after taking care of them. Like all problems, we need to look at the outdated systems we’ve created and do better. But no let’s throw the baby out with the bath water because fixing the process is too daunting.

    1. This is very debatable. So much of the problem is from growing so many plants. It’s difficult to argue with them that if you mostly only grew plants to feed animals, with few pesticides or GMO crops, you’d likely have less environmental damage. A few crops on the side, but fewer. There are few people willing to get into that hornet’s nest to study it.

  25. We are retired farmers. Got rid of everything including all but 14 acres. We raised all kinds of animals. Chickens are nasty little critters and make terrible messes. Goats are funny but you have to watch them constantly. Pigs aren’t bad, very clean animals but they like to rut so you have to limit their area. Cows, are easy to raise and take care of. No fuss, no problems. Every two years you sell off your increase. Cows are getting a bad rep right now. We no longer raise animals but we buy our meat and seafood from Butcher Box. We want responsibly raised meat. We eat mostly from our garden but 3 times a week we make sure we eat meat. We tried vegan thing but we had to go back to meat. Our body needs it. I’m allergic to soy so most vegan stuff is off our list. I am allergic to most grains but we raise most of what we need that’s not meat. At our age I really don’t want to be messing with animals in the dead of winter.

  26. I will voice my unpopular opinion again. If the world had fewer people we could all live a modern lifestyle that includes meat.

    In my lifetime, global population has doubled and last I checked, Earth’s size has not increased. Population growth in a finite place cannot continue forever. And no Elon Musk I don’t want to live inside a bubble on Mars!

    1. So how do propose getting rid of people? Maybe a novel coronavirus that culls out the old and weak, eh?? Or one child laws like China and maybe even barbarism, like late term abortion or killing Downs children. That might do it. I’m not aiming this at you personally. Just at the crazies who don’t think it all through. The earth will take care of population on its own, of course. If that is really true, there is a point where just like this virus, she will cull out the weak and old. the planet won’t end. Not that we should aim for that. It would’nt hurt if people voluntarily had two children or less just in case you’re right. But accidents happen. I’d hate to live in China.

  27. Regarding the War on Meat. Terrifying that billionaires are buying farmland. Especially one who wants us to eat lab meat. They have their hands on something more valuable than money. Land. Next will be water. You can’t eat money or drink money. In any crisis money is worthless.
    I hope you’re right Mark, that they won’t win.
    In the meantime, I was just delivered 20lbs of beef from a farm in my area.
    I’m also hoping that some scientists are researching people’s diets who responded badly to covid. Would love to know how many were vegan

  28. Gates is the problem not the meat. Thanks for always great information.

  29. I was a vegetarian between 15 and 22. Not super strict all the time because back then people thought I was crazy and so if I didn’t eat the meat offered I would have no other option for protein. Many times I just ended up eating pasta and sauce. It was a very unhealthy time in my life for a variety of reasons. One day I craved red meat, ate it, and felt better than I had in a long time and stopped being a vegetarian then.

    At 19 I lived and worked with vegans and vegetarians, but also along side meat eaters on farms and in gardens. I am lucky I grew up with gardens, and at 19 had experience working on a biodynamic farm and learning to cook from scratch at such a formative time in my life. Cooking from scratch meant when a recipe called for goat cheese, I was handed a bucket and introduced to a goat.

    Unbeknownst to me after I stopped being a vegetarian and decided to go all in to lose the 100+ excess pounds I was carrying at the time, I went full on low carb paleo and in about a year and a half lost 130 pounds. Paleo was not mentioned back then. There was a big lesson there for me. Food matters in ways we often choose to ignore—allergies, intolerances, eating out of season etc.

    I’m a ‘think for yourself, question authority’-kind of person—especially questioning my own authority. I don’t like to follow dogmas. But I recognize when ways of eating take on that kind of fervor and when that happens it’s time for a pause. I trust nothing in the world of politics and media except to be reminded of what they are—revealing uncomfortable truths about society. Veganism is unhealthy not because of the lack of variety and nutrition but because of the propaganda and and all these new man made foods. Veganism is like AI, it makes sense to move in that direction, but the way we are doing it isn’t healthy for anyone. If vegans were stewards of the earth and animals they’d eat in season, local, and support organic and biodynamic farms instead of corporations growing mycoproteins in vats and destroying land and water with pesticides. There are plenty of vegans who are farm to table vegans, but it’s the propaganda and those susceptible to it that concern me the most.

  30. Thanks for your weekly Sunday Mark, particularly today because the timing was impeccable. I’m 63, excellent health, mostly eat primal, just hit 12.4% body fat largely because of you, my dedication to intense fitness, but of course mostly my nutrition which, yes, includes protein from animals.

    The timing is perfect because I just watched “Game Changers” on Netflix last evening and these elite athletes were applauding “vegan.” I had planned on researching “Veganism” today, so thanks, you saved me some time (haha) so I think I’ll go for a run and have a burger instead!

    One question, why though? I thought the Cattle Lobbyists would be coming out of the woodwork? (Oh, Schwarzenegger was in the Netflix with his Grecian formula on also promoting the idea. Maybe that should have been my clue? Hah) Thanks, Robert

  31. I really would appreciate it if you would emphasize humane practices for animals since you are so pro-meat. you have a big influence on people and their consciousness. thanks. jules

    1. jules, with regenerative animal raising, it IS humane, by its very nature. they get a better safer life that wild animals, but they live similar lives, where they graze, group in herds and flocks, are outside all the time, (can go under rain shelters when needed), and are moved to new grass all the time…it’s a way to farm the mimics nature..

  32. The comments on the Twitter post about the weighlifting priest made me gag. Almost ruined my day.

  33. If only people realized it’s not meat vs. Vegetables….it’s sugars vs. Healthy fats!
    Why does no one ever point out the amount of arable land (and water for irrigation) being used (wasted) to grow sugar/grain based crops?
    So sure, let people eat meat or vegetables or both but we should be banning nutrient-less ‘food’!
    How about Sugarless Sundays or Wheat-free Wednesdays?

  34. Today’s Sunday with Sisson struck a cord.
    Recently bought your Two Meals a Day book and WOW I’m reaping the benefits.
    Ironically, my bf got me into keto but she recently watched 1, yes only 1 documentary on Netflix, Game Changer, and now is complaining, “how can I gain weight eating only vegetables”? Hmmmmm. I have some ideas.
    I don’t argue, I know what’s working for me.
    I say it’s the intention, my goal is to be healthy and lean hers is to lose weight.
    Thanks Mark for your research and personal experiences, your openness to trying new approaches in healthy living. I look forward to Sundays with Sisson emails, often referred-reading them throughout the week.

  35. thanks for all your guidance, its always needed, but especially now.

  36. “gets a little nervous telling people how much meat they eat.” Pfffft – not this fella. I’ll deride people for their ignorance, tell them to stop being a mindless herd animal and why, evolutionarilly (?) speaking: meat + fire + decreased plant chewing muscle necessity (therefore allowing outward brain expansion in the absence of constraining chewing muscles bound to the sagittal crests) … made us who we are today.

  37. I sincerely wish more “market share” would be given to regenerative farming, small farms with a variety of animals doing the “lions share” of the work to weed, provide fertilizer and yes, become pasture raised meat for our tables!! Then the price of that meat will come down and more folks will be able to afford to eat better meat. I’m all in favor of doing away with CAFO meat…but that comes off as rather elitist for those working 60+ hours a week at less than 15$ an hour…they can not afford it….and we need to find ways to work around that, rather than promoting factory farmed, and heavily laced with chemical food!!

  38. Spot on Mark. Definitely part of our re-education to cause us to hate our existence & our humanity.
    Good animal husbandry, farming and care for our beautiful earth is a direction positive. Thank you for speaking up.

  39. This is the first time I have responded to basically anything online. Your Sunday post is making me think about that. It is possible that this is a situation where another of my Mom’s coffee mug sayings is useful “Everyone is Entitled to my Opinion. Thanks for the thought provoking essay.

  40. One of our patients is 4’11” and around 190 pounds, all in her belly. She had been told by her doctors to limit meat consumption to 4oz. Per day. She was asking me what eat since I’m 5’3″ 130 and 25″ waist. I told her meat at least 8-12 oz serving, whenever I want, even bacon. She was incredulous, but I told her that what her doctors were telling her was obviously not working right? She was in tears about the steaks, lol.

  41. I absolutely agree with the greedy control that’s beginning to spew like a volcano…..I buy meat & foods locally from farmers and farmer’s markets…..they will have to peel the meat from my cold, dead hands! I’ve been following you since the early to mid-nineties and enjoy your perspective…..

  42. I agree with you on the importance of ethically-raised animals in the natural agriculture cycle Mark but wild-caught seafood seems hopelessly destructive to marine ecology. I watched Seaspiracy on Netflix and it was shocking brother – the long lines hooking sea animals indiscriminately, the collateral damage on sharks, turtles, dolphins, damage to coral reefs, and the amount of plastics that end up in the ocean due to the fishing industry. It seems like we need to leave the oceans alone in order to recover for a few generations, and there is no way to eat seafood with a clear conscience. What do you think?

    1. Without confirming or denying anything (I haven’t seen the documentary you mentioned nor done any extensive research on this), the MSC (Marine Stewardship Counsel) certification seems worth mentioning here.

  43. Meat, Meat, and more Meat and loving every mouth full!!! I’m with you brother!

  44. We are a small, family farm in our senior years. We have as our tag line, “raising food fit to eat” and have been blessed to be doing so since 1999. Animals on pasture, without stress, hormones or GMO feeds. We are not going anywhere and are even bringing on a young family to intern with us so they can take over when we are too old to “cut the mustard anymore”. We were made to eat meat and animals were created as a meat for us to eat. Humanely treated and sacrificed with honor and respect, the Creator knows balance.

  45. Hi Mark,
    Thanks for your “Sunday with Sisson” about the war on meat. Why? There’s a reason behind this war but I can’t figure it out. Years ago, I heard that people who don’t eat meat are less troublesome, independent. They are more malleable and easy to control. Is there any truth to this? Why do you think the Deep State doesn’t want us to eat meat?

  46. Regarding Bill Gates, there are always humans who think they can do better than nature. I used the example of baby formula when trying to explain this to my son. “Better than the breast” they claimed.
    Dr Terry Wahls will just have to go back to her wheelchair I guess.
    How conceited is Bill Gates to tell us what to eat?!

  47. Raising cattle responsibly without destroying forests is a great way to turn sunshine into protein. Well managed grass fed operations have a capture more carbon than the damage done by the methane released by the cattle.

  48. I am a 10+ year follower and fan. I am a physician and have a small, side integrative medicine practice. I have been an advocate for, and have practiced a”Primal Blueprint” based lifestyle with nutrition and fitness for 17 years. That is until 12 months ago when, at the encouragement of my regionally respected integrative cardiologist, I decided to go vegan! It was very hard to stop eating things that for so long I had preached to be healthy and essential. Moving from a fat based to a carb based diet went against my very fiber (no pun intended!). Well, here’s to being open minded because the results speak for themselves. After a couple months of adjustment my energy, stamina, clarity, exercise recovery, and just about everything else went from being already great to being off the chart spectacular! I sleep a little less but feel more rested and start my days around 0430 without an alarm. Long standing nagging injuries/ache/pains have nearly disappeared. I lost nearly 10lbs that nobody would have ever thought I had to loose and now measure 7-8% body fat. My cholesterol numbers, blood pressure, inflammatory markers, etc are at or surpass the bounds of measurement/excellence. I can give specifics if anyone cares to hear them but suffice it to say that as I approach age 60, my kids and their friends cant even come close to keeping up with me!
    Please don’t misinterpret my message as “everyone should go vegan”. For one thing, I am only 12 months into this adventure so who knows what will happen down the road. Instead, hear me say that we should be open minded, not dogmatic. There is no one size fits all recipe for healthy living. There is data on each side which means the truth is likely in the middle. Mark S. has always promoted “metabolic flexibility” and maybe this is yet another area where that should apply. Who knows, maybe things will start going bad for me and I will switch back to meat. Maybe switching back and forth is exactly what we should do and most closely resembles what our healthy hunter-gatherer genetic blueprint requires?
    Be well!
    Mark M.

  49. Don’t underestimate that war on meat. I’m watching my 18 year old slip further and further into anemia and it’s killing me. She is smart, wellread, totally conversant on politics and current events, youthful, idealistic and not unlike her peer group. And the wind is indeed at the backs of the whole agenda.

  50. Vegetarian diet was the chosen diet for humans provide by the Creator of the Universe according to the Bible (please see Genesis 1:29 in your Bible).
    Yes, there is the need of faith to accept Criacionism as well as Evolutionism. I prefer believing in Criacionism, since for me Inteligent Design makes much more sense to understand Creation of humans and everything.

  51. I get so tired of people telling how to think and eat in order to “save the planet”. I think everyone needs to read Sacred Cow by Diana Rodgers and Robb Wolf. Their arguments are cogent and do not appeal to fear.

  52. Is it naive to think that some eyes couldn’t be opened if copies of Sacred Cow by Diana Rogers were sent to the evil billionaires, bigwigs at the USDA, members of Congress, etc?

  53. One can help support biodiversity by buying Audubon Society certified grass fed beef, which comes from ranchers who are committed to being responsible stewards of their grasslands.

  54. Given some of these comments I’m reading here, I just wanted to throw in my two cents for PSA purposes…

    I’m all for regenerative farming and moving away from factory farming. I don’t agree with most – let’s call them – “vegan policy proposals.”
    And yes, I disagree with what Bill Gates is doing in that regard. But that doesn’t make him the Antichrist, or someone who’s trying to wipe out 90% of the planet. In my view, he actually has good intentions. He’s just trying to follow the science and have a positive impact. Of course, the “science” on this topic happens to have gone in the wrong direction, much like nutrition science has. If that wasn’t the case, there’d be no Paleo movement to fight “against the grain” and point out all the flaws in the Standard American Diet.

    My suggestion is this: Stop thinking in terms of good guys and bad guys, but rather good reasoning and bad reasoning. Tribalism may be primal, but that doesn’t make it healthy.
    Embrace a scientific mindset – this includes keeping an open mind, hearing the other side out, even trying to prove oneself wrong.

    May the best reasoning win.

    1. Bill Gates IS the anti’Christ. What hubris to talk about putting a cloud to block out the sun. Force vaccines and people to eat his way. And it’s not just about reasoning because their “reasoning” is wrong. Studies are not done properly, apples to apples, and more.

  55. Mark…
    Long time reader here. Interesting article about meat. I remember a long time ago, probably before most of your readers were born, I worked as a burger flipper @ a fast food chain called Jack In The Box. The parent cooperation thought it was time to pioneer something called a soy bean burger. Oh my, you would have thought it was the end of the world. Back in the early 70’s, it was. If they were first to market these days, they would have been hailed by some as saviors. Not in this household – bone in ribeye’s forever. All the best & continued success! Grock on!

  56. I love meat..but do hate the unethical treatment of animals. 5 years ago I left the suburbs of Denver and headed to the country to start my own homestead. I have very spoiled chickens,ducks,turkeys,pigs,alpacas. Soon I hope to add cows,goats,rabbits . I agree we need meat,grass fed beef, and a world where animals are free to move about and get sunshine and fresh air!

  57. I enjoyed this weeks Daily Apple, I can’t agree more and after 10 years of eating the Primal/keto/paleo way I am a great example of why meat and no grains or processed foods are good for you!!!
    I am 64, with great labs and a waistline!!!

  58. There are lots of extreme comments here on Mark’s Sunday thoughts … I guess just him mentioning ” war on meat” gets us going and choosing sides … but the obvious answer is one of compromise. At the end of Marks post is the most important call to action where he asks us to look for quality sourcing of the meat we choose … that’s what I do .. I have been eating more organic / local /plants and vegetables / line caught fish / and some quality sourced meat from local producers … I’m eating less meat overall and the planet would be a better place without the mega livestock producers … although .. when I cycle through some 5 day periods of going full plant based that is when I feel the best and am up early and killing my workouts … compromise anyone ??

  59. I just ordered my first 100% grass-fed half cow. I am super excited to have lots of quality meat, sustainably and humanely raised. -Brian

  60. In 5 years, significant numbers of people will still work remote, and I predict that the media etc will be extolling the consequences of covid when it will have more to do with expanded access to internet and companies realizing that they can save money with remote workers (less office space, lower salaries commanded)

  61. Thanks for this Sundays message. I couldn’t agree more! The MSM and some members of the government are really pushing a vegan diet as a way to heal the planet. Sadly, my daughter has jumped all in and now has weekly medical appointments to check her iron and vitamin B-12 levels with special vitamins for her to take due to her “healthy” vegan diet not providing what her body needs. But, there is no getting through to her.
    Since I have gone keto I have greatly lessoned my OA flare ups and pain, dropped much need to be dropped weight and have a better outlook regarding my health.

    Thanks for all that you do!



  62. Hi Mark, great Sunday e-mail (as usual). Thank you very much for pointing attention on the topic of meat eating.
    Last week I held my very first webinar – the Human Health 101 (by PHCI), which I translated into my mother tongue more than 2 years ago but never had the guts to present it. Last week I finally did it. 82 people signed up, over 30 connected live and many were watching replay. And I got few e-mails with feedback suggesting they liked it.
    I just finished reading Sacred Cow book by Robb Wolf and Diana Rodgers. After reading your Sunday e-mail I seriously consider putting tohether a presentation on the health, environmental and ethical impact on meat eating – pretty much distilling all the great points from the book. Then it could be my 2nd webinar (now that I am not afraid of holding them anymore ?).
    I feel an obligation to spred the message whatever way I can (as a primal healh coach and a human being). I already share various bits and pieces in my FB group but it feels like a bit more comorehensive presentation could help drive the point home for laymen audience.

  63. Thanks for the write up on the war on meat. My husband and I own a small farm and raise grass-fed beef and use only no-spray ,non-gmo feed for our chickens, pigs and sheep. People don’t understand anymore than the land can’t survive and produce crops without the herbivore. The two were made for each other. Crops deplete the ground and herbivores put back so that the land can produce crops. This is how the earth was designed. We don’t buy or support the meat that most Americans are often forced to purchase from the big chains, because it is damaging to the environment and to humans. But we support local farming and wish more people had access to good and good-for-them food. If more people with a platform would use their platform to inform the masses that they are being deceived by those with an agenda maybe more people could get access to real food! Thanks again for putting it out there!

  64. Loanidis, in that BMJ article that was published last June is a really terrible researcher, who has been cherry picking results and publishing widely discreditedband extremely biased papers on covid. Arguing about “lockdowns” vs no restrictions is one thing, but since that BMJ post we have had over half a million deaths, with various physical distancing orders in place. As a result of nearly unchecked virus circulation there have also been varients that are infecting younger people or are way more transmissible which will make things way worse.
    So like I said, arguing about the right approach is fine, but citing 9 month old articles by a widely discredited researcher to do so is really annoying… He somehow estimated infection fatality rates for covid that would have required more people than live in NYC to have been infected than live there for the math to work out as he estimated! He’s either lying or just not very smart, so its probably best to just ignore anything he publishes…

  65. GMO Mosquitos — good riddance to buzzing blood suckers. Can we do the same for politicians?

    But I agree that I think scientific hubris is rampant and comes before a big fall. Not only do they give the people impacted no voice, apparently because ordinary people are too “dumb” to make intelligent comments about science (ha)… but they don’t even attempt to teach them enough science to make intelligent comments. It’s totally underhanded.

    Science will continue to have resistance while its practitioners act like arrogant bullies who look down on everyone else like simpletons and minions.

    This is probably going to be another amusing Florida anecdote. Hopefully it won’t be a tragic anecdote.

  66. Hi Mark,
    Please give your views on taking the Covid vaccine? Here in UK there has been a huge uptake, especially in the over 60 age group. I have immune problems and you have helped me fight my way back to health ? but I can’t find anything about your views on the vaccines. What do you think, are they safe?

    I value your opinion . I use Marks Daily Apple as my first reference point for any health matters.

    Thank you Mark .
    All the best from London! xx

    1. Mark: Why so mum on your personal view on getting the Covid vaccine? Did you get it? If so, which one? Etc. I searched your site, and I can’t find anything about this. Thank you!

  67. Mark: Why so mum on your personal view on getting the Covid vaccine? Did you get it? If so, which one? Etc. I searched your site, and I can’t find anything about this. Thank you!