Are Eggs Really as Bad for Your Arteries as Cigarettes?

This past weekend, amidst all the Ancestral Health Symposium madness, I caught the headline while flicking through my phone for a few brief seconds. Didn’t open it up, though. Just cruised on past. I’d hoped to just forget about it, to ignore it, to banish it to the back of my mind where half truths and junk studies go to die. And truth be told, I pretty much had forgotten about it until I checked my email to find a ton of frantic emails from readers wondering if their beloved and dependable egg yolk breakfasts were killing them faster than the cigarettes they don’t smoke. What? You didn’t hear?


Followed by (with less hysterical capitalization) “May increase carotid plaque build-up.”

So what are we looking at here?

We’re looking at a study in which a trio of researchers (two of whom with extensive ties to the statin industry) quizzed a group of middle-aged and elderly stroke patients about their lifelong egg intake and smoking history, making sure to stress the importance of accuracy and honesty in their answers. Yes, you heard me right: they expected people to remember every last egg they ever ate. Still, everyone in the study was assumed to have supernatural memory, so I guess it evens out.

Those who ate the most eggs were the oldest – almost 70 years old on average, compared to the relatively sprightly 55 year-old egg avoiders. It’s pretty well accepted that with age comes the progression of atherosclerosis, a process that takes, well, time to occur. Plaque doesn’t just snap into existence; it develops. All else being equal, the older you get, the more plaque you’ll have.

Those who ate the most eggs also smoked the most and were the most diabetic. To their credit, the authors tried to control for those factors, plus several others. Although they tried to control for sex, blood lipids, blood pressure, smoking, body weight index, and presence of diabetes, the study’s authors didn’t – couldn’t – account for all potentially confounding variables. In their own words, “more research should be done to take in possible confounders such as exercise and waist circumference.” Hmm. “Possible” confounders, eh?

Exercise reduces inflammatory markers of atherosclerosis.

Exercise even reduces markers of atherosclerosis in pre-pubertal obese children!

Exercise reduces thickness of the carotid arterial wall. It doesn’t get much clearer than that. Exercise is a massively confounding variable that the authors failed to take into account.

What about waist circumference?

A high waist circumference predicts atherosclerosis of the carotid artery.

Or how about stress, which also wasn’t considered?

Perceived daily psychological demands – the amount of crap you perceive to be heaped on your plate – are associated with progression of carotid arterial plaque.

Yeah, it’s not like the size of a person’s waist, whether or not they move of their own volition or sit in an easy chair all day, and how much stress they endure have any impact on their risk of developing atherosclerosis. Those things may be linked, and I’m sure the authors would have loved to include them in their analysis, but there just wasn’t enough space on the questionnaire. Besides, it’s not like a little physical activity and mediation could even undo the damage wrought by 4.68 sinful egg yolks per week. Why, that’s nearly a half dozen!

Read next: How to Use Egg Yolks as a Thickener

Seriously, though, the subjects were all stroke patients who’d lived to tell the tale. They’d been in contact with the medical community (you generally don’t just shake off a stroke without medical attention), who no doubt gave them the standard required advice to prevent another event, which includes “a reduction in saturated fat and cholesterol intake…and a boost in physical activity.” Since the egg-eaters obviously didn’t listen to their doctors’ recommendations to cut back on cholesterol intake, I’d wager they treated the exercise recommendations with similar levels of disdain. What do you think?

Here’s what I think: this is an observational study whose already limited worth depends entirely on the memory of an inherently fallible creature being infallible. As such, it cannot assign causality, contrary to what the media (“Egg Yolks Can Quicken Hardening of the Arteries“) and authors (“It has been known for a long time that a high cholesterol intake increases the risk of cardiovascular events”) say. Furthermore, why single out egg yolks? I mean, I get it – the authors sort of have a vendetta against eggs – but what about other foods? Were those even analyzed or asked about? What about the stuff that people generally eat with eggs, like pancakes and vegetable oils, or the foods that contain egg yolks, like baked goods and mayonnaise? For all we know, egg yolk intake could have been a marker for eating garbage; most people aren’t tossing raw yolks into post-workout shakes, gently poaching eggs with coconut vinegar, or horrifying co-workers with a bag full of hard-boiled eggs like we Primals are wont to do. They’re getting Grand Slams at Denny’s, eating bologna sandwiches with mayo on white bread, and overcooking scrambled eggs in canola oil until they’re rubber.

For fun, though, let’s look at what some other studies have found with regards to the artery-clogging capabilities of whole eggs:

Egg consumption and endothelial function: a randomized controlled crossover trial. Two eggs daily did not impair endothelial function (the flow of blood through the arteries), nor did it increase total or LDL cholesterol. Overall, eating two eggs a day elicited no change in cardiovascular health when compared to eating oatmeal (a cardiologist’s pride and joy).

Daily egg consumption in hyperlipidemic adults – effects on endothelial function and cardiovascular risk. In patients with high cholesterol, eating several hard-boiled eggs a day had no effect on endothelial function.

Effect of a high-saturated fat and no-starch diet on serum lipid subfractions in patients with documented atherosclerotic cardiovascular disease. Obese patients with heart disease ate lots of saturated fat, zero starch (including zero grains – sound familiar?), and tons of vegetables, and saw massive weight loss without any negative effects on their blood lipids. Once upon a time, I had access to the full study (it was freely available at the website for the Mayo Clinic, who’s since taken it down…wonder why), and I remember seeing that they ate three or four eggs a day. If egg yolks were bad for all heart disease patients, these guys would have felt the effects.

Okay, despite all those confounders and other egg studies that support yolks as harmless and the fact that this was merely an observational study without the power to assign causation and whose authors failed to even propose a potential mechanism of action, let’s entertain the notion that something was going on with this population of egg eaters. What if the egg yolks did have something to do with the atherosclerosis?

In a previous post on “Human Interference Factor,” I highlighted a study showing hens given an unnatural industry-standard diet high in omega-6 containing grains (soy and corn) produce less healthful eggs than hens on a more natural diet of grains lower in omega-6 with supplementary antioxidants. When subjects ate two of the soy/corn-fed eggs a day, which were high in omega-6 fats, their oxidized LDL levels were increased by 40%. Subjects who ate two of the other eggs each day, which were low in omega-6 fats, had normal levels of oxidized LDL (comparable to subjects in the control group, who consumed between two and four eggs a week). Since the oxidation of LDL particles is strongly hypothesized to be a crucial causative factor in atherosclerosis, it’s conceivable that eating normal, industrial eggs could have a negative effect on carotid plaque.

Anyway, what are the takeaways here?

Exercise, practice stress reduction, and get your waist circumference checked.

Don’t smoke.

Don’t age.

Don’t pay too much attention to ridiculous observational studies (this is part of stress reduction).

Oh, yeah – eat egg yolks, and lots of them. Doubly so if you’re low-carb (remember the starch/grain-free high-egg diet referenced above). Make ’em pastured, if possible, or at least from hens that ate something besides soy and corn. They’re more nutritious and probably “safer” than industrial eggs.

(In retrospect, that mention of the authors’ ties to the pharmaceutical industry was a low blow. After all, I myself am a direct benefactor of my local pastured egg industry; they pay me in delicious golden yolks.)

I hope you found this post helpful. Have at it in the comments.

About the Author

Mark Sisson is the founder of Mark’s Daily Apple, godfather to the Primal food and lifestyle movement, and the New York Times bestselling author of The Keto Reset Diet. His latest book is Keto for Life, where he discusses how he combines the keto diet with a Primal lifestyle for optimal health and longevity. Mark is the author of numerous other books as well, including The Primal Blueprint, which was credited with turbocharging the growth of the primal/paleo movement back in 2009. After spending three decades researching and educating folks on why food is the key component to achieving and maintaining optimal wellness, Mark launched Primal Kitchen, a real-food company that creates Primal/paleo, keto, and Whole30-friendly kitchen staples.

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  1. I saw this headline too yesterday and the reading on my bullsh*t-o-meter went sky high.

    If our education system was geared more towards critical thinking we wouldn’t have this kind of mass hysteria when it comes to the latest ‘research’ on demonised foods.

    1. Exactly. I always emphasize the lack of critical thinking as a key enabler of the tabloid style “health press”.

      1. Husband is eating 1 egg with no-nitrate sausage patty every day plus no more bread or pasta and lost 15lbs in five weeks. I can`t eat eggs but went no carb and lost 8 in weeks. He at 72 weighs l64 and I at 70, weigh 135 and we feel great! Thanks Mark!

    2. When I hear statements like that I always think, “Follow the money”. Someone has an interest.

      1. The article on critical thinking is good. However he has not applied the technique to intelligent design. This is not a comment from me to raise a hot subject, but just to say one has to be consistent..

      1. I had a great-uncle who ate 3 eggs and 5 strips for breakfast every day of his adult life. He lived well into his 90’s and the only thing wrong with him, to my knowledge, was that he was slightly hard of hearing. He didn’t believe in doctors or drugs, which probably helped considerably.

        BTW, didn’t we go through this egg nonsense about 15 years ago? The “Egg Police” just won’t give up.

        1. Well there you go, next week you’ll probably see another study about how eggs cause deafness, and how statins cure it. 🙂

        2. I agree! My grandfather lived to be 96. He ate eggs almost every day of his life. He did not smoke and he did not drink alcohol. He loved strawberries, blueberries and blackberries, and tomatoes, which all grew well in his back yard in Oregon. He went for a short walk every morning, and that’s all he did for exercise.

          My grandmother, on the other hand, was a health nut and ate granola, whole wheat bread, bran muffins, etc. and ended up dying at 73.

    3. methinks that the mere mention of the honorable field of epidemiology will send my BS meter a flickin forevermore…

      1. Epidemiology isn’t all bad. It really started for infectious diseases, but that is much less of a problem in the developed world these days, so you know, they need something to do.

        1. Thank you! Don’t discredit the whole field of epidemiology because these long-term retrospective studies are drowning in confounders. And there certainly ARE infectious disease epis in the developed world with plenty to do, thankyouverymuch 🙂 (Rabies, EEE, WNV, Lyme, e. coli/sal/shigella, HIV, TB, STIs, hepatitis A/B/C, MMR, meningitis, flu, varicella, pertussis, to name a couple!)

    4. I agree. I get tired of the daily demonized list of foods with dubious at best testing.

    5. Yeah exactly. I’d like Mark to do an article on his ideas regarding public and private schooling versus homeschooling. Does the Primal lifestyle have anything to say regarding this debate?

      1. It’s complete irresponsible nonsense and why the fat dude in the car next to me yesterday thinks the way I eat is crazy. He’ll by anything that CNN and Chik-fil-awful sell him. Replace that egg yolk with a whole grain muffin!

    6. I agree. Although people still tend to only critically think within the realms of their current belief system. Your “bullshit” meter naturally went sky high because this study did not fit to your, i am guessing, stubbornly unmoving belief.

      I am not a scientist although i am studying to become a doctor and i really feel unqualified to make judgements on a lot of the information that is out there.

      By the way, I ate eggs for breakfast this morning, like i do every morning.

      1. That’s part of why paleo is so good imo. It lets you make reasonable assumptions about food.

    7. If our education system were geared more toward critical thinking, we wouldn’t have schools in their current form anymore.

      The entire K-12 system, public and private, is predicated upon the teacher dispensing knowledge and the kids shutting up, sitting down, and taking it.

      They couldn’t run a K-12 system in the present style that encouraged critical thinking. That would require *talking* and *interaction,* much like the old Greek philosopher schools.

      The nation’s economy would fall apart, too. Most of it’s predicated on people buying crap they don’t need. They have to be divested of their critical thinking skills (if they have any) before they will do that.

      So, until enough people realize this, I guess we’re stuck.

    1. Had my two hard boiled eggs from pasture raised chickens!

      They were YUMMY and way better for me than the cereal I used to eat for breakfast!

      1. If anything, this “study” convinced me that I should eat 4 eggs every day instead of the usual 1-2.

        Of course that will get boring, so I’ll be sure to add tons of bacon some days, sausages, other days etc. 🙂

  2. Oh boy… my eleven-year-old son heard this on TV (lesson: get rid of said TV) and now I’m fighting with him to eat his eggs every morning.

    1. Just show him a picture of Mark Sisson and tell him this is what “old men” who eat a lot of eggs look like.

      1. i am 53yo mail, i consume an average of 5 eggs a day for the last 2 years. 3 raw eggs in the morning ang 2 fried eggs with dinner.
        My bp is 120/80, i have high hdl count and low ldl count. And i am 5’6″ 146 lbs.
        Now, i can’t understand how eggs can be bad for me.

    2. Use this as a teachable moment on junk science and critical thinking. That’s what I do when my boys and I are watching the news and studies make the news. We break down what they are saying in the report and talk about why it’s right or wrong.

    3. I am constantly arguing with my parents about this. They are convinced 150% that eggs are BAD for them because of the cholesterol in the yolks. That they add the english muffin, the jelly, margarine, and “bad” bacon (you know, the pre-cooked microwave-ready sh^&) doesn’t help!
      I love eggs on my bison-burgers with nutbutter. WOAH, awesome.

  3. Thanks for the information. There have been so many egg scares in the UK i just ignored it and continued to have my 2 eggs for breakfast. However it is always good to see the rational arguement for when some well meaning person comments on my eating habits.
    Annoys me that as usual they are slagging off and probably putting off a lot of people from eating a natural product rather than all the processed, man made food with chemical additives .

  4. I used to have sugar for breakfast daily in the form of various cold breakfast cereals — you know “a delicious part of a healthy breakfast.” Since I gave up the garbage I have been eating delicious eggs cooked in coconut oil and butter for breakfast. I have never felt better or more energized in my life. I have also lost 8 pounds and completely gotten off the ADD medication I had been on for years. Don’t anybody try to take away my eggs!

    1. I love reading about people no longer needing their medication! Good for you!

    2. Out of curiosity, have you had your total cholesterol checked since you made this change to your diet? I made a similar change and my cholesterol went from the 180’s to 417. Just curious if other people have experienced this increase, too. (And congrats on getting off of your ADD medication…that’s huge!)

      1. I don’t have my actual numbers in front of me, but all of my blood markers have improved from eating primally, including cholesterol. I’m in my 4th month of pregnancy and when my blood results came back a month ago, my midwife said she’d never seen numbers so good. I eat eggs most mornings, include them in many recipes, and definitely get more cholesterol and saturated fat than I did when I ate SAD.

        Everyone’s body is different, but I’d try and give it a bit of time to see if you even out a bit.

      2. 180 to 417 sounds like a steep increase. Would you care sharing specific numbers including HDL LDL Tryglcyerides and Cholesterol Ratio (Total Cholesterol Divided by HDL). Also were you cholesterol tests close enough to show that the eggs had a direct causation.

      3. My husband and I have been seriously primal for about three months now and, as he is type 2 diabetic, he went for his diabetic assessment a couple of weeks ago. His doctor and diabetic nurse were delighted with the fact that he had lost weight and his cholesterol and blood sugar levels were within normal levels. They said that whatever he was doing he was doing it right and to keep on doing it. Of course he told them about MDA. Here’s hoping that they log on and learn something. My Husband is 70 years old and says that he feels better than he has done for years.

      4. Have your thyroid level checked: TSH, free t4 and t3 (this is the one that can mess up the LDL).

        1. Oh, yeah. My cholesterol numbers were “bad” before I started on thyroid medicine (high total and LDL and low HDL) but it took me awhile to realize the improvements were due to the thyroid medicine, not any diet changes (this was early in my health improvement seeking). I am now just under 200 for total and my LDL looks high but I had the test to look at how fluffy or dense my LDL was and it was very fluffy (after serious Paleo for 6 months) so I have no worries.

      5. My numbers also went up, but I asked my Dr. for copies of my last 4 years of blood test results. What’s interesting is that even though my Total Cholesterol is up (from about 220 to 280) my ratios of HDL:Total is up from 0.19 to 0.21 (over 0.24 is ideal) and my Triglicerides:HDL is down from 3.4 to 1.74 (less than 2 is ideal). I have 2 eggs for breakfast every day, I only have full fat dairy (mostly yogurt). My weight is down about 10 lbs and my body fat is less than 16%. Here’s a good link to ideal ratios.

        1. The simple and easiest way to lower cholesterol is with tincture of Cayenne.

          Take a wide mouth fruit jar fill it a quarter full with 300,000 Scoville units of cayenne pepper. Fill it with 100 proof Vodka and seal it. Start this on a new moon and end it on a new moon. A Scoville unit is one glass of water. To cool your mouth from the cayenne pepper I am recommending would take 300,000 glasses of water. But a glass of milk can do the same thing. Or you can take a drink of Vodka, Tequila, Whiskey, or Bourbon will work also.

          Shake it every day to get the cayenne pepper soaking into the Vodka.

          At the end of the process strain it through a good small mesh cloth so none of the pepper comes through and only the tincture.

          Fill 1 ounce bottles with a stopper in them and filter the tincture into the bottles.

          You are done with that part.

          Now once a day take a half of a stopper of the tincture and put it under your tongue. It will burn like hell for about 5 minutes your eyes will cross but soon all will be ok.

          Your cholesterol will drop out of site. I scared my doc and kind of pissed him off when I told him what I did to lower my cholesterol. Screw him it works.

          Now this tincture will help heal your heart and if you are having a heart attack, not a total terminal one but a mild heart attack with a minimal amount of pain have your wife give you a dose of the tincture. Your pain will stop in about 10 seconds and then go to the ER to get checked out. Take the tincture with you as well. You might need another dose on the way.

          Also I use it to stop bleeding from wounds it takes about 5 minutes but will stop the bleeding. Most wounds this will work on except those that require a hundred stitches or your wife hits you with an ax.

          Warning this stuff is hot and it is not comfortable to take and you need lots of nerve to do it, but it is good for ya.

          Leave it in your upper mouth for at least 5 minutes before you try to wash it away. This stuff goes straight to your blood stream and you get kind of a neat feeling from it once is stops burning. You can buy it at health food stores.


        2. @Cheritino who didn’t have a reply button on their post – that sounds quite “woo” to me. Why start it on a new moon? Does the phase of the moon affect some quality of cayenne we don’t know about? I’m all for booze and hot pepper, but this sounds like BS to me.

      6. My husband had the exact same thing happen to him (180 to 350). He’s a doctor, by the way, and still isn’t sure what to make of it. He says he’s in uncharted territory. He says he feels better than ever and is very thin at 6’0 and 160 lbs. He has chosen to focus on his trig’s (50) and his HDL (around 75). This gives an extremely low trig/hdl ratio – which many believe is the best predictor of cardiovascular disease. Also he did a detailed work-up to to check the size of his LDL particles (small very bad/ large good) and checked his cardio C-reactive protein which was also extremely low. He had decided to stay paleo (and VERY low carb) and remain a little bit of a guinea pig. If you feel completely freaked out, you can always get on a statin. By the way his cholesterol did drop by 50 when he eliminated cream from his diet (he was eating/drinking a lot of it). He is now very strict paleo and doesn’t consume dairy – he also doesn’t consume fruit (fructose can increase trig’s). Good luck with it!!

        1. I would never get on a statin. I don’t have familial hypercholesterolemia and even if I did, it’s funny but all I ever hear about those people is that they are “at greater risk” for heart attack, not that they demonstrably have more of them.

          And really, there’s no other reason to get on a statin. Every cell in my body makes cholesterol. If it were going to kill me it’d have done it by now.

      7. I think Nina Plack in her book “Real Food” mentions that cholesterol numbers is not a sign of plaque build up, necessarily. Blood cholesterol is necessary to repair veins and keep them healthy, and so a high number on a healthy diet might mean that the veins are being repaired, whereas a high number on an unhealthy diet means that your body isn’t able to repair itself fast enough, or that the cholesterol your body is producing isn’t effective. I don’t have the book anymore, so I can’t look it up again, sorry. But that’s what I seem to remember. Might be worth investigating.

    3. You and my son are proof that ADD and ADHD are probably due to grain/food sensativities. He was really sick with severe diarhea and blood in his stools and one of the things the doctor mentioned was Celiac. We had a wait before we could see the specialist and decided to “treat” him for Celiac and removed all grains from his diet. Voila! In days he was feeling better and in 1 1/2 weeks he told me he could sit in class and focus. I am glad that we didn’t put him on the ADHD meds as was suggested. For myself, I follow the same diet – he and I share most of the same allergies – and I cannot express how much better I feel. I eat three eggs every morning and sometimes have bacon or sausage – nothing with sugar. Haven’t had my cholesterol checked, but my blood pressure went from 158/98 down to 130/85 just by eliminating grains.

  5. The pressure to publish and make money seems to be outweighing the pressure to do honest research. Besides, there are all kinds of ways to statistically “control” for variables. I took stats, and the whole process seemed a little fishy and could seemingly be used to show results when in fact none exist.

  6. I’d like to simply blame the media for such sensationalized reporting, but sadly, it’s the “scientists” who should know how science actually works and write their study results with more accountability and less guesswork on causality.

    1. Why don’t we call it a tie and give them both the award? Wait… make that a three-way-tie and give it to the people who believe everything they hear or read. 🙂

  7. I’m a doctor and this stuff pisses me off. (Although not too much because I’m trying to reduce stress levels). The authors never address the fact that the non-egg eaters actually got strokes several years earlier than the egg eaters.

    Loved the line about horrifying co-workers with a bag of hard boiled eggs…such a bag is sitting on my desk at the moment!

    1. … i’m calling the AMA as i write this – Dr., please type in your full name and address….. 😉

    2. Great point. The headline could have read “Eggs yolks prevent strokes,” with the same amount of data to back it up.

      I guess the two worst words in the medical profession are “prevent” and “cure.” No money in either.

    3. Data can be skewed to basically show anything we want it to.

      This is why critical thinking is so important. It’s not about what the study finds as much as it is about “does this make sense given the way the study was conducted?”

    4. Same with the myth that Asian people are always healthy because they eat less animal than we do.

      First off, they’re not always healthy.

      Second off, when given a choice, they will always eat animal (unless deliberately following a vegetarian diet), even if it’s from the sea.

      Third off, they may not have the heart attack rates Americans do (and I’m talking Asians in Asia here), but their stroke rate, particularly in China, puts us to… shame? Probably not a good term for it.

      I’ve lost three grandparents to strokes. I’d rather have the heart attack. At least if I survive it I will still have my mental function.

  8. I’ve been trying to eat more pastured eggs from local sources (usually bought at farmers markets), but they are fairly pricey. Just curious as to what others are paying for pastured eggs around the country. $6-7/dozen is not uncommon here (Denver).

    1. Brutal! We are really lucky here…I get them delivered to my front porch every Tuesday for $3. Some kids in the next town over (we are fairly rural) started a little business. Their poor mom drives them all over for deliveries, but talk about instilling a good work ethic early on!!

      1. I can get them in Madison, WI area from farms for about $2-$3/dozen (and of course way more at a grocery store). But I usually have my dad deliver me 12 dozen from farms near him in north-central WI and then they are only $1.25/dozen. (I know, I am spoiled!)

        1. I’m from Milwuakee, WI and I get them at farmers markets for $2-3/dozen or a woman at work who’s husband is a farmer brings me a dozen for $1.50

        2. @Marie – I am in the Milwaukee area as well. Went primal about 2 months ago and I am loving it! Hardest part is finding quality food at a decent price. Would love some tips!

      2. $8 a dozen! But man oh man, are they delicious. I didn’t much like eggs before, but now I crave them. These eggs have beautiful, dark-orange yolks and taste wonderfully rich.

    2. I pay $6-7 too in Ohio, but the eggs I get are certified humane and pastured and I am willing to pay for that. I used to be sensitive to eggs…they would upset my stomach. Now that I eat pastured eggs I’m fine with them. I really think it has a lot to do with what the hens eat and also how they are treated (low stress for them is good too!).

      1. “Certified humane.” I don’t take someone else’s word – I met the hens instead! 🙂

        $6 for a dozen – ouch! I’m near Cleveland, (Strongsville) and buy $3/doz.

      2. If you’re near Cleveland, I know of a couple small farms (houses with a fence and chickens running around the yard) on the west side that sell them for $2-2.50 a dozen.

        1. Hi Josh,

          I travel up to the near west side of Cleveland every so often (near W. 25th by the West Side Market). Could you share some of the locations of the small farms that have eggs for sale? (Price is less a concern than the real McCoy eggs from free range chickens). Thanks in advance for any info you may have on this.

      3. I had the same problem with egg sensitivity in the past but ever since I have switched to a grain reduced diet (I cheat every now and then) and pastured eggs the problem no longer exists!

      4. If you pay more than $2.00 a dozen for any type of egg you really are getting ripped off. There is no difference between a brown egg and a white egg. It costs the farmer less to range feed hens than it does to have them eat from a hanging feeder.

        But the Sheeple will pay any price the Butcher wants to charge.

        Eggs and Bacon is good for you but you have to watch where you buy those things. The stores right now are really ripping people off, by putting Gluten in hamburger and other chemicals we don’t know about so they can make a bigger profit. Years ago they put glycerin in hamburger to make it a more red color. Big brother stopped that and rightly so.

        Monsanto has ruined our food supply and garden planting activities. You can not find an orginal seed today that has not be biogenetically engineered and Monsanto owns the seeds that come from the vegeatable you planted so it is illegal if you use those seeds the following year.

        Those white liners in some of the soup cans are loaded with chemicals.

        Have fun kids, watch what you buy and where you buy it. Some of that stuff can kill ya.


        1. Hmmmm, in Denver and I have 60 hens fed on soy-free corn-free organic feed. They also pasture but my hens eat .25 lbs of grain/day. .54/pound, I sell the eggs for $4/dozen. I barely break even and supply my kiddos with healthy eggs weekly. Plus I deliver, agggghhhh the gas, the time. But my customers LOVE them and know we love our chickens and watch what they eat. Remember when you do the math, chickens lay six eggs a week (they sabbath) and we raised them from day-olds, they didn’t start laying until 6 months old, then another 2 months before the eggs were full-sized. No money in eggs, just love.
          Add organic free range eggs for a healthy diet, and don’t listen to the MEDIA!!

      5. Hmmm I think there may be something to what you said! I, too, am egg sensitive so much that I consider myself to have an egg intolerance (I can eat MAYBE 1 egg a week). Perhaps we need to invest in pasture raised. I love eggs so much!

    3. I get my eggs from Grant Family Farms’ CSA. Ebert Farms also has eggs you can get weekly. Both are about $4.50/dozen. For Grant Farms you have to sign up for a season. Ebert you can do by week. You can do both through

      1. Thanks Julie! I just talked to the folks at Grant Family Farms this weekend at the Denver County Fair. I’m very impressed with their operation and their meats and produce (several area restaurants use them as a source), but the whole CSA thing has always been a little daunting. If they have a service for just eggs, that would be great. I’ll also check out

        1. I just signed up for eggs through the Grant Farms CSA (live in Longmont), but I really don’t understand why the yolks have so little color to them if these chickens are outside eating grass and bugs. i have to say I am a bit disappointed. Maybe I was just spoiled by the eggs I used to get (from a friend who just moved away, boo)

      2. I get mine for $3/doz from some backyard hobbyists. The chickens have a nice pen and roam around the yard eating grass and bugs during the day. Their scratchings are supplemented with organic feed. I probably use a gallon of gas driving to their house to get them, but I buy 3 or 4 dozen at a time.

    4. Here in North Texas, the going rate is $5 / doz at the farmer’s markets. At Whole Foods, I can buy Jeremiah Cunningham’s pastured soy free eggs for $6.50 / doz and Vital Farms pastured eggs for $6 / doz.

      1. i’m from the DFW area and I get mine from Goose Lake Ranch in Farmersville, TX. Price is $4.00 for 18 so 1 dozen would be $2.66. They welcome visitors and you get to see the operation first hand. They are truly pasture raised chickens and have tons of space to roam. They also have a several tyoes of chickens and some of them lay green eggs! (Just the shell not the yolk) Definately worth checking out and the taste and price make the drive worth while.

      2. I’m in North Texas and I get my pastured eggs from Circle N Dairy in Gainsville for $3.50/dozen. I buy 3 dz at a time when I get my raw milk and cream. 🙂

    5. I get my eggs from the local Amish woman and pay $1.90 a dozen. Her chickens free range and the yolks are a nice deep yellow. very tasty.

    6. $7/dozen for pastured eggs in Santa Cruz, CA. Worth every penny.

    7. Oh my…here in NY in the country we pay like $2-$3 a doz for farm eggs. I in
      fact have 4 duks and eat the eggs every
      single day – cept in Fall & winter they stop. Get you a couple of female duks who will lay 2 eggs a day. EASY to have.
      Duks are very hardy and even stay outside in the worst weather. They won’t go in their coop in winter. They seem to love the snow and cold. Let em
      graze in spring,summer & fall. Make sure you give em layers mash with the cracked corn. Two duks will be cheap to raise. Get em a kiddy pool too. Watch out tho for possums stealing the eggs.
      They lay in early morning hrs.

      1. Forgot to say that duks and chickens need grit/tiny gravel to digest their food and oyster shell for calcium or the shells will be weak and soft. Cheap.
        Oh, and in the hot summer duks will shed their feathers and you will get beautiful feathers to give away. I like the big white Pekin duks – they “talk” a
        lot and are SO funny. Don’t overcook the whites or they get rubbery. Best way is to poach em…yummy!

      2. I go to sleep early and so i don’t collect the eggs in the real early morning hrs -sometimes a possum eats them…so i’ve been leaving scraps of food and a STORE egg on the porch for the possum – he eats there every nite,but he STILL eats the duk eggs! He must be very fat! I just hope it’s not a
        female cuz if i get more i will have to
        catch and release FAR away. I sometimes
        see him eating with the cats outa the dry food bowl too….AND now he learned how to go in the cellar, climb the cellar stairs and eat the dry cat food
        too. So i don’t leave food there anymore. I don’t wanna be locking him in the cellar for the winter! He’s so cute tho – has 5 little fingers and
        VERY needle sharp teeth!! I even took pics.

    8. Here in the Twin Cities, they run $3-5, depending on size, at both the market and the grocery store.

    9. I have my own chickens and they are low maintenance and the eggs are yummy. I have had them for two years now, bought them for $5 each and now pay $15 a bag for food that lasts about a month. I think it is a good investment 🙂

      1. I have my own chooks as well. We are rural, and they free range with alpacas to protect them from foxes. We have one that gets into the garden each day and taps on the front door for the scoop of scratch mix I give them a day in addition to their pellets, and whatever bugs and grass they eat. In Australia it is ok to have chooks in the ‘burbs, but some councils don’t allow roosters for their antisocial crowing, so why not consider raising a few chooks. They are easy, rewarding and they reward you with delicious eggs. Occasionally we have a glut and the eggs make a meaningful gift. We never cull chooks they retire gracefully, scratching around keeping the newbies in line. We just lost a bantum that was over 8 years old! Have a go!

      2. I now have my own flock to but they are only 20 weeks old. Should start producing in the next few weeks. My grandparents ate eggs, pork, real butter and cream every morning for breakfast and lived into their 90s. I eat 2 eggs every morning.

    10. I live in Ann Arbor, Michigan and pay $6.00 for pasture raised eggs. The farmer supplements the hens diet with organic feed containing soy and corn. I pay $7.00 for all organic, pastured eggs that also get supplemental feed that only contains organic greens and fish meal. Also, I occasionally buy “ethical eggs” at Whole Foods that are from pastured hens and they run $6.00. Sounds like that is the going rate, and I don’t mind paying it. I am now raising chickens for eggs in my backyard and expect that after factoring in all the costs of building the coop, feed, and general upkeep, a dozen eggs from my own hens will run me about $50/dozen for the first couple of years! ;-)But, I know what they ate and that they are happy!

      1. I have a farmer friend who sells me her free range chicken eggs for $1 a dozen. She also has duck eggs that she gives me for free. I can tell that they are healthy chickens; the eggs are a nice rich orange color, much darker then the Meijer organic eggs that I buy occasionally for back up. I eat four whole eggs a day fried in ghee and I am a lean 23 year old female. OMG the fat is making me so fat! lol

    11. I’m in TX, and a friend of mine sells pastured eggs for $3.50 a doz.

    12. I pay about $3.50/dz at a Mennonite farm store, that is actually on the farm where the chickens are kept.

    13. Each Wednesday I pickup 3 dozen eggs with my raw goat milk from my local health food store (their role is purely as facilitator). I pay $3 per dozen for the eggs and $35 a month for a gallon of milk per week (after my initial share purchase on the herd of goats).

    14. count yourselves lucky at paying $6 for a dozen eggs! I have seen organic, free-range eggs here in Melbourne, Australia for $20/dozen! I, luckily, have found some for around $9.50/doz. Still worth it for me, even though we eat around 3 dozen eggs a week (family of 3).

    15. We can get local eggs that get some feed (probably GM corn and soy) for about 3-$4 and I can get eggs that get no corn or soy and if so its organic for 5-$7 a dozen depending on the place. I live in MD. It is steep but you gotta do what you gotta do. I just watched a video on Dr. Mercolas website of an interview with Joel Salatin of Polyface Farm and Dr. Mercola said that people used to spend about 35% of their income on food and now they only spend 10%. I honestly think we spend even more than 35% but you really get what you pay for.

    16. Thanks for addressing this Mark!!

      We pay $6-7 here in the bay area

    17. I get soy/corn free pastured chicken eggs for 3.50 a dozen in Vegas.
      Ever crack a store bought egg and comapare the yolks with that of a pastured TRUE free range chicken—amazing the color difference in the yolks!

    18. I pay about $4.50 – $5.00 depending on the vendor selling the eggs. One of the vendors told me he just got a bunch of young hens to replace the old ones. He said they produce smaller eggs, so until they get bigger, he will be reducing his price from $5,00 a dozen to $4.00. I’ll take it!

    19. In Homer, Alaska, I was paying ~$9 for an 18 pack of pastured chicken eggs, and ~$6 for a dozen pastured duck eggs. Here in Cordova, Alaska, I can only get store-bought ones, so I went for the Omega-3 enriched 18 pack and it was ~$7.50 (if I remember correctly).

    20. In Baltimore I can get them at farmers markets for $4-$4.50 but more like $6 at stores. One problem I’ve noticed at farmers markers is I occasionally get fertilized eggs… one or two in a dozen may be bloody and this can be a huge buzz kill as the fourth egg in a pan at 7 am on a Monday. Anyone know how to avoid this? Pretty sure properly handled eggs from “coed” farms shouldn’t have this problem .

      1. The red spots in occasional eggs are called “meat spots” or “inclusions” and there’s no connection between meat spots and whether or not the egg is fertilized. Some individual hens are more prone to them, and they crop up when a hen has been stressed (even something like a barking dog or a hawk flying over can stress them out), but it has nothing to do with whether there’s a rooster about. The way to avoid it – and many other ways that eggs can be gross – is to always crack your eggs into a small bowl one at a time before adding them to whatever you’re cooking. It takes a second to get into the habit, but it used to be the hands-down standard when most people cooked at home.

        They don’t show up as often in industrial eggs because large production houses usually subject the eggs to very bright infrared light (called “candling”)and cull the eggs with visible meat spots. I repeat, not a feature of fertilized eggs, just a thing that happens with eggs. Crack them into a small bowl and use a piece of the shell to cut any meat spots out of the white and compost them.

    21. …in other news, the interweb is now available in other countries outside whatever country Denver is in.

    22. $3-$4 mostly here in northern california (sonoma county), but on occasion you can find them as low as $2.50.

    23. I pay the lady with the wandering hens and guineas $3 a dozen in TX. 🙂

  9. Its amazing the conclusions people come to, and how most just assume its all sound information! This goes right along with the lecture by Denise Minger I watched the other day (not sure if it was from last years AHS or this years) titled How To Win an Argument with a Vegetarian. Heaven forbid it be all the junk food people eat, it MUST be the fat, red meat, and now apparently egg yolks. Oh well, more for me.

    1. i’ve learned my lesson – like the end of the movie “War Games” – the way to win an argument with a vegetarian is not to start one (with all due respect and admiration for Denise..)

      1. I totally agree…I’m starting to learn to keep my mouth shut. The latest thing that cracked me up was someone telling me how she’d been reading stuff from McDougall and the starch solution, and how it ‘just makes sense’. I just nodded and ate my chicken grape curry salad, and watched her eat pepperoni pizza. She’s obviously REALLY into the starch solution.

  10. Along with this, the book, “The Great Cholesterol Con” by Malcolm Kendrick (UK), is a great read. He methodically goes through ALL of the studies, at least those that are available and not kept hidden by the big pharma statin companies and debunks ALL of their arguments, methodically, one by one. The biggest cause of plaque build-up? (according to his conclusions) STRESS! One of the cofounders IGNORED in this so called study…

  11. Oh sh!t! I eat four eggs/day for breakfast, not just per week. I guess according to them I will be dead in……..

  12. Enjoyed reading this while enjoying my breakfast: coffee with heavy cream, hard boiled egg, whole milk yogurt. (read: Not phased but bad research)

    1. That’s my breakfast, too! But I usually soft-boil or easyover the egg and put blueberries and coconut oil in my yogurt, which I make from grass-fed whole milk.

      I started paleo/primal in April and within a month had healed the soft tissue damage that had persisted for almost four years from being hit by a truck while on my bike (he went through a stop sign). At last I am free of chronic pain, can exercise vigorously, and even ride my bike again! Alleluia! And my doctor literally jumped up and down with excitement when she heard about it. And she approved my taking myself off statins. Now she wants my help to put together a packet of info for all her patients.

      1. Wow…Let’s try and clone your Doc! Or at least try to get her involved with the low-carb/Paleo/Primal universe…

  13. Nutritional “science,” in brief.

    1. Begin with conclusion. “Eggs are bad.”
    2. Rationalizae with flimsy correlational study.
    3. Publish.
    4. Chuckle as media froth over conclusions like rats on crack.

  14. What a crock o’ crap. I’m very fortunate to have a doc who says “Heard of Paleo? Eat that way” LOL. I was already on the wagon but it nudged hubby to hop aboard. We eat lots of pastured eggs and our blood lipids are fabulous. Gotta love these so called “scientific studies”. It’s just like presenting numbers, you can adjust them to tell just about any story you want to tell at the time.

    1. And another smart M.D. Wish I had one up here in Alaska (hint, hint!)

  15. I saw this on the news a couple days ago. It’s crazy how now-a-days they try to make something like eggs unhealthy but they are still saying eat this is has 50% less salt. There is Salt still in it isn’t their? Eggs are still going to be healthy, get over it. Sheesh

  16. Ok…excellent breakdown on how the egg eaters and smokers were also the same sort of people who ignore all health recommendations like regular exercise and also eating a ton of junk food. Correlation is not causation and all that. It’s the same way “they” demonize red meat and saturated fat.

    Now what about folks that eat healthy, exercise regularly and who also smoke?

    I’d sure like to see an honest study done on that.

    1. You describe me (65 yo) to a “T” – and all of my health markers (HDL, BP, Blood Sugar, etc.) are excellent. I’ve smoked a pack a day for 45 years and I can run circles around men half my age – I regularly play an hour’s worth of basketball with the 30-40 something crownd and never fall behind. Smoking is nothing for your health compared to diet – primal, low-carb, or some variation thereof is the only way (and that includes lots of egg yolks, raw and lightly cooked).

      1. Ole man next door to me is 76, eats eggs, bacon or sausage every single morning for breakfast. Eats hamburger or other meat for supper with soup – AND
        smokes a pack a day or more of ciggs -he’s healthier than me – works outside all the time., and in 12 yrs i’ve been here i’ve never seen him sick with a cold! He eats very little carbs/starch.
        He just eats simply. He inhales too! I give him my goose eggs cuz he loves em.,
        and they are big and beautiful that i feel guilty eating them so i give em away.

      2. I’m high-fivin’ you right now! Though I would never recommend that someone start smoking, I am so tired of the righteous non-smokers that drink soda, eat crap, take their meds and tell me that it’s the smoking that kills.

        1. I don’t recommend eating crap, AND I don’t recommend smoking, either – some people get away with it, and most don’t. Smoking and healthycrapfood killed my parents, smoking killed my older brother, and is presently killing my younger brother, and will kill my sister. Me? I am damaged from 7 years of puffing, and I’m sure I shortened my life, before I got smart enough to quit.

          Smoking remains the stupidist thing I ever chose to do.

  17. Doesn’t make sense how 1 yolk extra a week would do that much damage. sounds like Bro science than any real testing.

  18. Sigh. I wish I wasn’t allergic to eggs so I could indulge in their delicious, creamy gold goodness. All the rest of you are SO lucky!

  19. Great info! I shall continue eating a dozen eggs a day, coddled eggs that is. The health benefits seem to be nothing less than astonishing!

      1. I remember my mother having a set of egg coddlers when I was a kid, but I pulled the wiki explanation for ya. 🙂

        There are two methods of coddling eggs. The first is to cook the egg in its shell, by immersing it in near-boiling water. This can be done either in a pan where the water is kept below boiling point, or by pouring boiling water over the egg and letting it stand for 10 minutes.

        The second method is to use an egg coddler, porcelain cup or ramekin with a lid used similarly to a bain-marie. The inside of the egg coddler is first buttered in order to flavour the egg and allow it to be removed more easily. A raw egg (sometimes with additional flavourings) is then broken into the coddler, which is then placed in a pan of near-boiling water for 7-8 minutes.

      2. I collect egg coddlers! Particularly those made by Royal Worcester (check on eBay). They are beautiful!!! You butter the coddler, line it with thin strips of ham (I use Canadian bacon), crack open one or two eggs into the coddler (depending on what size coddler you have, add some grated cheddar cheese if you’d like, screw on the top and place the coddler in a pan of water so that the water level comes up about 2/3 of the way, and then boil for 8 to 10 minutes depending on how you like your eggs. Remove from the pan of water and serve them right in the coddler with a piece of toast. Eggs cooked this way are very tender when they are coddled and the word implies. You will want more than one coddler. I cook at least 3 at a time, 1 for me and 2 for Mr. Husband. Hope this answers your question.Cheers! DJ

        1. “serve them right in the coddler with a piece of toast”

          Or forgo the toast for more bacon 🙂

      1. Nope. A lot of people I know in real life that are seriously body builders can eat 12-16 eggs in a single day. If only my stomach could hold that much!

  20. I saw the original article this morning and was not to happy about it. At least they did report the number of participants (TOO FEW TO MATTER) and the methodology (A JOKE). I get really tired of media reporting on studies that have no credibility. I really get upset when they don’t let you know what the source of the information is or they give you a source that does not appear to actually exist.

  21. If you’re interested in owning chickens, check with your city/county/HOA to see if they’re permitted. We just got four adult laying hens (Bovan Browns) from an organic-certified farm at $12 each. They free range in the back yard, have a coop for roosting & laying, and we have total control over what goodness goes into the egg-making.

    1. I hear ya on buying & housing them hens… Will do this once asap I resettle back in Calif. Thanks Cindy!

    2. I hear ya on buying & housing them hens… Will do this asap I resettle back in Calif. Thanks Cindy!

    3. I hear ya on buying & housing them hens… Will do this asap when I resettle back in Calif in Oct/Nov. Thanks Cindy!

    4. SO fun to keep a few hens around. They will eat your healthy leftovers, provide you with golden yolked goodness, and yes, relax and entertain you too. It’s pretty easy to keep a few and many cities and suburbs do allow it.

      1. They are also excellent control for grasshoppers, fireants, and scorpions!

        1. And mice! Ever seen a chicken kill a mouse? Chickens like their protein too! Very sad death for the mouse, though. Death from a thousand pecks. It’s hillarious to watch a flock of hens chase the hen with the mouse in her beak. They all want a share.

  22. Listened to this report on the radio this morning as I made husband a 2-egg (fresh from the farm) omelet. Guess I didn’t STRESS out too much about it! 🙂

    I pretty much write off any of these “studies” that I hear about on the news, etc. They are going to be skewed the way they want them to be skewed.

  23. Dang…wish I hadnt had those 2 overeasy with that 3/4# venison burger, sweet pepper and onion. Am I gonna die now?

    1. Yep. You’re done for. Might as well call the funeral home now.

  24. I’m lucky enough to have a number of hens who freely roam our 5 acreas of Norfolk, England eating whatever they please (which, by the way, includes killing and eating mice!). their eggs are completely natural, delicious and healthy – I won’t eat anything else and neither should anyone. Cheap, factory produced eggs have pale, watery yolks and no flavour is that a saving worth making?

    1. Totally agree. I never used to understand why anyone liked eggs- they tasted like nothing to me, just bland rubbery blobs. Then I tried a pastured egg and what a difference!

  25. Gross Eggs cooked in canola oil, come on Mark I was eating while reading this haha 😉

  26. I just posted this on my FB page last night. Isn’t it funny how the media loves to grab hold of these ancient ideas. To think that an egg yolk is unhealthy? Now people will go out and continue to eat the boxed/processed foods and think they are healthy. I always suggest eat food in its whole form as God created it. Makes sense to me. Why does the media continue to put out these ancient ideas?
    Here is a good study I found:

  27. I’ve started throwing raw (organic, pasture raised, washed) eggs in any shakes I make, heard that cooking decreases some of the eggy goodness.
    I work at a hospital. Carry around a set of before and after lipids to show to docs, you should see their eyes when they ask what I did to get such fabulous results and I tell them bacon and eggs!
    (Of course, I elaborate afterwards , but the initial reaction is such fun!)

  28. It’s entries like this that make me fall in love with your blog all over again.

  29. While I agree with some of the identified flaws in the study, the question begs: If we do not trust research done by authors with potential conflict of interest, then why do we accept interpretation of the literature by Mark Sisson, who surely has a conflict of interest in interpreting any research to do with “primal diets” potential adverse effects?

    1. The point is not to trust any “study” without taking it apart. If you don’t have the skill set for that you will have to chose who to trust – and I will admit that Mark has products to sell and so has a financial stake, but to compare Mark’s personal interest to that of the pharmaceutical/food industry is nonsense. I chose Mark (but I also consult other bloggers/writers) over big food any day.

      1. I agree Don, the problem is in who we decide to trust. Even the satisfaction of 100s of comments agreeing with your blog can be enough incentive to publicise false claims. I do not believe this is the case here, but you may find it interesting that Mark’s first main criticism of the study (that age may be the cause of the plaques) is false. In fact the authors did control for age in their analysis. I quote: “this difference was statistically significant
        after adjustment for age in a General Linear Model(p < 0.0001)."
        In the end this remains an observational study, and any conclusions are dubious, particularly when the media gets a bite of it. I think it is great that people like Mark are questioning what traditional science has force-fed us for years, but perhaps searching the literature for yourself is the answer. To conclude, a 2001 metaanalysis of 17 prospective, controlled studies concluded that eggs (battery produced no doubt) raise your cholesterol profile adversely… just saying.
        P.S. I eat eggs

  30. Vince Gironda, old time bodybuiler and trainer advised natural (steroid free)bodybuilders to eat plenty of eggs-WITH YOLKS, and during some periods of “bulking” up without adding fat, he said to eat up to 36 eggs a day- especially fertile eggs. This was 3 or more decades ago.
    He believed that this was as anabolic as a mild does of “Dianobal”, an anabolic steroid. As it turns out, if you believe the new research, that fertile egg/s (YOLKS) are high in “follistatin”
    (THE ONLY FOOD WITH THIS), which reduces Myostatin. Myostatin is a muscle growth inhibitor (which we all have to some degree or another-I guess your body doesn’t really want to build muscle-it’s an expensive propostion which requires much food to sustain).
    I think Vince Gironda was a genius, and I’ll be working up to 3 dozen eggs a day and let you know what happens!!

  31. From the comments it is clear you are preaching to the choir Mark but thanks for debunking yet another pseudo-study.

    My opinion is that these scientists are doing a diservice to the world.

    I eat eggs, pastured, almost everyday. Still my favourite Breakfast by far.

  32. I saw this and just ignored it. When we start hearing that white food is unhealthy in the same hysterical vein, (we won’t,) I’ll start listening.

  33. This article/study reminds me of the ‘red meat is bad for you’ article/study. It’s the same story ‘demonized fat’ = bad for you… even though they aren’t attributing nor isolating any correlating factors. (I’m recalling in PB book about eating the fats along with high carbs may even be worse than just eating the carbs (am I recalling correctly?) – this HCHF diet is likely the ‘conventional’ diet of a 55-70 yr old stroke victim?! which effectively has nothing to do w/actual egg consumption)

  34. Had 5 wonderful pastured egg yolks this morning with bacon. even the poorest student of lipidology knows that esterified (not absorbable) choleterol has no effect on unesterified (absorbable)choleterol levels and is mostly excreated. Medical community…FAIL

  35. Thank you for this wonderful article! I had a delicious omelette with 2 pastured eggs this morning. I have one pretty much every single day!

  36. Great article, Mark.

    I also received a few e-mails about this study. Too bad the media seems to be going haywire over it and publishing all these hard-hitting headlines without even criticizing the flawed methodology and all the contrary evidence.

  37. Thank you so much for this article! I was always a little concerned, but eat three eggs every day anyway. They’re delicious and I’ve never felt better since adopting the primal lifestyle.

  38. After reading that article I immediately drove out to my local egg producer and smashed their entire yield screaming – “MURDERERS!”… Then I went home and had some fries and a diet coke.

  39. Thank you so much for pointing all of this out! I am work in the dental field and am trying my best to live a healthy lifestyle and promote that to others, and when a study came out not so long ago on the dangers of dental xrays it was frustrating to me as the study was based on people’s memory of how many dental xrays they have had! I can safely say patients think they had xrays 6 months ago when it has been 3+ years! Memory is not reliable especially if it is something we particularly like or dislike! I follow this blog faithfully and am always refreshed by the ‘realism’ it provides!

  40. Here in BC, Canada I pay $4 for eggs that are produced right on the property I live on. They are not organic, but they do have nice orange yolks.

  41. My usual breakfast of 3-4 hard boiled eggs each with a drop of truffle oil isn’t going anywhere. There should be some sort of penalty for journalists who assign causation to studies that don’t merit it; I don’t see how that’s any different than other factual misreporting.

  42. Thanks for the 411 Mark, eggs have been on my mind since I’ve been attempting the paleo diet and eating 2 eggs a day at least. Good to know I don’t have to quit eggs and start smoking. I am so tired of all the food conspiracies like this one!

  43. NEWS FLASH: Daily Use of Toilet Paper May Lead to Colon Cancer

    In a recent study published in a very prestigious medical journal, a group of emminent scientists found that a significant number of elderly males suffering from colon cancer admitted to using toilet paper on a daily basis throughout their lives. While this is just one study, and there could be confounding factors involved, caution is recommended when considering the daily use of toilet paper.

  44. I was so horrified I ate an omelet gently cooked in olive oil.

  45. As one of the people who frantically emailed you, thanks for setting the record straight for everyone. I almost spit out my water when I read this headline; I couldn’t believe the nonsense in this study and the leaps of faith it would take any educated reader to take to believe these conclusions.

  46. I eat 2 fresh egg per day. I get them fresh daily from my farm raised chickens in my back yard. Along with a Primal Diet I have lost 35lbs since Jan. I also no longer have back pain from an old injury..Fresh Eggs and Primal all the way!

  47. Another attack from “popular” science. Report what is popular, trendy among your peers, and more importantly, will get you published…

  48. $8 Rainbow Eggs in S.F.! Yolks like a sunset and satisfying texture yum!

  49. formula: take an entire country, fill them with misinformation about food sources, wait and watch as the rebels and conformists sort themselves out. When the rebels start dropping off from a melange of rebellious behaviors, blame it on a singular cause (monolithic eggs, all eggs are interchangeable, etc) not the other rebellious behaviors: smoking, alcoholism, junk food, sedentary living, etc. Insert pharmaceutical ‘solutions’ until such frequency of use leads people to unconsciously conclude they must have a “simvastatin deficiency” or the like. Repeat until the entire country consumer crappy, subsidized “foods” (quotes intentional) and must turn to bigpharma to stay alive a few more crappy moments. remember to continually prod the media to trumpet your misinformation free of charge and royalties, as ought to be their due.

    1. I have been buying eggs from local, backyard chicken coopers since turning paleo/primal. Primarily chicken & duck eggs, although I’d eat nearly any bird egg I could get a reasonable deal on. I pay an average of $5/dozen – sometimes $6, sometimes $4, always 100% to the family that raises the birds in cash. Horrors.

  50. They reported this on Good Day LA this morning, as well. Some sort of expert associated with the study DID note that the type of eggs mattered — he said eggs from chickens force-fed corn were bad for you, but eggs from pastured chickens were ok. At least there’s that! Too bad most people will just see the headline and cut out delicious, nutritious eggs.

  51. “Don’t age.”

    Good advice! I would take it if I could.

  52. LOVE my eggs and will continue to eat them (even if studies show they are not the healthiest things in the world).
    They are tasty, relatively cheap (even the organic free range ones I buy) and portable 🙂

  53. I had three eggs for breakfast this morning. I should be dead noon…

  54. Read this with glee while eating two eggs scrambled with ghee. In perspective, our $7.50/dozen eggs in Berkeley cost me about $1.75 per breakfast when cooked with cream and maybe a handful of blueberries on the side. Hardly a financial liability – I mean, how cheap do we think food should be?

    On the other hand my sister in WI pastures her hens and gets eggs for literally the cost of (supplemental) chicken feed.

  55. I’m at a loss for words. The poor doc would have a field day with me if he found out how many eggs I eat. If only I ate sugar laden, grain cereal and some skim milk, I might have less plaque. Ha!
    I think these research articles are pure entertainment. I read, I laugh and hit delete.

  56. I’m a doctor too and tend to be immediately suspicious of any condemnation of a natural food, and very suspicious of recall studies. All this article did was make me crave eggs, sadly. Maybe if they come back with a prospective study I’ll advise my grandma to lay off.

  57. “Get your waist circumference checked?”

    Get it checked? Does the use of a tape measure now require a licensed operator?

    Regarding faulty recall, is there any particular reason to believe that this introduces bias?

  58. I am a big paleo proponent in my practice and long time supporter of However, there have been some recent chinks in the armor, which have me a bit worried or at least trying to focus more on a higher plant food version of primal eating than before. While the above study is riddled with questions and possible problems (as Mark points out) we cannot use the questions it brings up as proof the findings are false. I see a trend a lot in the paleo community (which again I consider myself to be a part of) where, whenever a bad study comes out about animal food, fat intake, etc, some paleo expert or another picks it apart and shows how the findings COULD or MIGHT not be accurate. Then many people seem to their comments as proof these studies are wrong FOR SURE, which they may not be. Another perfect example is this study:
    Again, it leaves many question marks, but does that mean the findings are false? Not necessarily. Since thinking more and more along these lines, I have at least begun to open my mind to the possibility that SOME aspects of the paleo diet, especially if the version one is following is high in animal food consumption and lower in plant foods, uses a lot of meats cooked at high temps, etc. My bottom line is helping my patients, my family and myself to be healthy and live a long, disease free life. I am not longer willing to follow all aspects of any particular “diet” just because some parts of it are good or sound. I follow proof and that is it. Some day, hopefully, it will be easier to tell what is truly proof and what is not, so we don’t have to scramble to pick apart studies that go against the diet we have chosen. Another example- Here is an interesting study done recently investigating the effects of what one might term a “pre-paleo diet”. Very interesting results for sure, but again, holes are apparent. I wish one of the diets they compared the simian diet to was a “paleo diet” as we know it…,_The_Genetic.3.aspx
    Here’s another interesting study controlling for many additional factors the above egg study Mark is questioning the validity of does not:
    Here’s the actual study he’s talking about:
    I have to say the guy in that video has sure thrown my paleo-bias for a loop a few times. Has it turned me into a born again vegan? No! But it hasn’t helped me deny the possibility of some health benefits of eating a primal diet much higher in plants and lower in animals than maybe I would have otherwise. If you are really secure in your paleo ways and feel you can withstand all assaults on meat eating, watch this video:
    If you watched that whole video and are still as secure in your “unlimited animal food consumption” as you were before, you are stronger-minded than I am.
    The only thing I know for sure I will be telling my patients in regards to diet in EVERY case are things like:
    Eat organic, non-GMO
    Eat whole foods
    Eat a varied diet
    Eat lots of raw foods and don’t cook with high temperatures, especially meats.
    Eat lots of plant foods, especially kale, garlic and onions.
    Ground yourself daily.
    Get your sun, rest, exercise, fun, etc.
    Identify possibilities of genetic defects that mean you need more of certain nutrients, etc.
    Good luck out there!

  59. Thank you for clarifying. People get so confused by media hype and pharma company sponsored studies. 4 months and 20lbs lighter, best lipid profile I’ve ever had and eat eggs daily!!

  60. I eat 4 lightly scrambled eggs a day in GF butter, topped with an avacado of Guacamole. My wife says its going to kill me. I tell her to keep eating her oatmeal and she can have my stuff if I die first…

  61. Dang! I made hard boiled eggs to bring to work today and I forgot them at home! I’m craving them sooo badly right now. Guess I’ll just fast, then feast!

  62. Just another example ofjunk science putting fear of real food into the present and future generations. Gotta keep those statin drugs moving…fear and misinformation. I eat 6-10 eggs a week and cholesterol is better Than normal!! Funny thing about cholesterol its apart of every cell in our body…we need it.

  63. Great article!! May I also recommend Gary Taubes excellent book exploring the efficacy of “scientific” medical studies in “Good Calories, Bad Calories: Challenging the Conventional Wisdom on Diet, Weight Control, and Disease.” This article speaks yet again to the same topic. Oh that health conscious people were not victims of such misinformation….

  64. This study matches this one I personally discovered:

    There is a correlation between the number of laptop users and the malaria sickness.

    The less laptops, the more malaria

    So to cure malaria the only thing you have to do is send cargo ships filled with laptops to the malaria inflicted country.


    1. Epidemiological data at work!

      Outstanding science, WildGrok ^^

  65. So… I hate to sound mean, but it’s a study based on the memory of STROKE patients?

    1. …I just noticed that. That on top of all the other numerous flaws…dear god…how are people falling for this?

      I…I just can’t…

  66. The ancestors should have been eating eggs for many years. So, the gene should be well tuned.

  67. I cannot stand — CANNOT EFFING STAND — people who wave bullcrap like this in my face and tell me that I’m ignoring science by eating how I do.

    This is on the level of all the “red meat” studies; in other words, they are absolute jokes and disgraces to science. The authors of these things should have study-doing rights revoked for life, and sent to work at the DMV.

    Deep breathing.
    Okay, now I’m fine again. Time to go lightly cook 6 eggs in coconut oil for breakfast. 🙂

    Hey, on the plus side, reduced demand for eggs by the ignorant masses getting their health advice from mass-media news sites equals more for us. Maybe it’ll get so low that, combined with the whole ethical, “geen” movement, industrial egg farming ceases to make sense and production is instead shifted back to pasturing as a default, resulting in higher quality eggs for the comparative few who appreciate them.

    One can dream, at least. haha

  68. I’ll bet those people showing ill effects from eggs also tended to cook them in canola oil, margarine or other bad oils. Before finding out the truth about oils I remember trying to eat eggs cooked in those oils along with throwing away some yolks when cooking. They never tasted as good as when I’d just “cheat” and cook them with butter. Now I’m guilt free using pastured butter and coconut oil. And I don’t throw away the yolks!

    1. I actually ADD yolks! When I make a nice scramble, I generally use 2-3 whole eggs, and 3-4 yolks. (I’ve gotten to be quite expert at separating — using surgical gloves and rolling hand-to-hand… I’ve read that using the shell-halves to separate can contaminate the eggs…) I prefer butter/ghee to coconut oil.

  69. How many more slanted observational studies will we have to be bombarded with before we can put these myths about real food to rest?

    I am a trainer and strength coach and even my fellow trainers are still eating egg white omelettes!

    Cracking open an egg and throwing away that golden globe of nutrition to eat the white! I don’t get it.

    Mark, you make a very good point about food quality, so buying pastured, omega 3 eggs makes sense. I think that may also be a problem with studies about eating red meat that is mostly corn fed.

    Thanks again for taking on the good fight.

    1. Be careful with those “omega 3” eggs. The ones I’ve seen are produced by force-feeding hens bunches of ground-up flax (something they shouldn’t be eating) and makes them very sick. The one time I cracked one of those open, the yolk was an incredibly pale yellow, just a few shades away from an off-white color. I just threw it away.

  70. Oh boy! Had a client inform me about this “Research” last night, guess we will all have to post articles like this to make sure people know the truth about eggs.

  71. My love for eggs has survive my mother’s insistence that I had to “diversify” my breakfast, variations in traditions and fashions (for example, I never switched to oats only or yoghurt only breakfast), so I probably won’t stop eating them now.
    But I do hope that other people stop eating them and the prices for pastured eggs drop.

      1. I really think this is more true than we realize…give it 50+ years…we might be the only ones left because of the changes we are making. Or the ones that are left that didn’t will be very unhealthy for sure…

      2. Agree 100% Imogen and Grok’s Girl.
        This might be a good theme to be treated by Mark or a science fiction writer:

        “the aftermath … 50 years after … cavepeople rule the Earth again …”

  72. Mark,I am glad that you took the time to cover this controversial study. Eggs are a very big part of my diet and I agree with your takeaways.

  73. I have seven people in my immediate family. We eat eight dozen eggs per week, but only six of us are eating for five days, and seven on weekends. Usually with bacon, but also with bison, lamb, and other meats. Always in coconut oil, except this morning, which is from left-over lamb fat. YUM!

    Right now our yolks are dark, carrot-orange in colour. It’s been the coldest summer on record up here (Yukon), so usually we have orange yolks by July, but we just started getting them last week. Anyway, they are delicious, and not only that, but far more filling and satisfying than grocery-store eggs. Given that, we eat less of these than in winter when we have to buy free-range eggs from the store (and know they are not eating grass and bugs- just look at the runny yolks). Then, we go through between ten and twelve dozen. And they pale in every way.

    Regarding this ludicrous “study”, I never accept the conclusions of a study without first scrutinizing its design and real-use procedures. Even then, I have found well-designed studies where statistical significance was not really relevant to human subjects, even though the numbers were relatively relevant. This “study” is a long way off from even that, though, obviously.

  74. Re the study that showed eating industrial eggs can raise oxidized LDL by 40%, Mark says it is “conceivable” that this could be a problem. For someone like myself who has high LDL, I find this response to be somewhat understated. I just found a source of pastured eggs this week. Before that I was eating free-range eggs which I have learned are not any better than cheap industrial eggs. I have been eating 7-10 of these clunkers per week for the last couple months and wonder how much damage I have done to myself?

  75. Ilove eggs. I have three poached egg yolks every morning, that is 21 a week and am very healthy/never ill.

    When I was a child there was an dvertising slogan – Go to work on an egg (from the egg marketing board). Fairly recently in the UK they wanted to relaunch it and it was banned on health grounds (that eggs are bad)

  76. Hey Mark,

    So I get organic, free range eggs. I eat 1-2 a morning. How can I check if they are fed soy or corn?


  77. Age that Stroke occurs:

    Egg eaters – 65
    Non-Egg eaters – 50

    Researcher’s conclusion? “Yeah, but the egg eaters had more plaque!”

  78. I’m 69 and I have never listened to the conventional wisdom that egg yolks are bad. I always figured that if they turned into baby birds, how could they not be highly nutritious food? I once spent a few days in the hospital being checked out for a bad migraine. I was on the neuro floor with the stroke patients. Breakfast was invariably egg white omelette that was like a dry sponge, muffin, fruit juice. Just the thing for good vascular health! I made my husband go down to the cafeteria and get me some scrambled eggs and sausage.

  79. I’m pretty astounded at the price some of you are paying for decent eggs. But I do think it’s money well spent.

    Fellow up the road from whom I get my raw dairy, has about gross or two of hens running about the farm, with full access to everything, and he gets $2.25/doz. I don’t get eggs from him, because we have our own chickens, who also get their fair share of greens and bugs from running round outdoors.
    Eggs *should* cost a dime a dozen, as that’s where the term came from. As of today, a ‘real’ dime is worth a touch more than $2, so that’s about right. Count in factors of folks taking the time to come set up at the market to sell you their eggs directly, and tack on appropriate costs, maybe making $3/$3.50, maybe a bit more but a lot more than that, and there is rank profit taking in play.
    FWIW, chickens on the farm do a lot of good and useful work all on their own, esp for folks with pastured cattle. Eggs are just a nice surplus bonus, and tasty too.

    I wouldn’t ever buy eggs from a supermarket, I don’t care what it says on the box. I’d rather do without.

  80. This guy nailed it (from the comments of the original article):

    “Alternatively, this data could be interpreted completely differently. The data shows the individuals who ate the most eggs were the oldest and had the most plaque after their stroke. Perhaps the eggs actually had a protective effect allowing those who ate the most eggs to withstand more plaque buildup and live the longer before having a stroke. Those individuals who ate the fewest eggs had a stroke an average of 14 years earlier than those who ate the most eggs. Perhaps if they would have been eating more eggs, they would have lived longer without a stroke.”

  81. As a silly follow-on,

    Folks questioning whether or not their organic/free range eggs coming from organic/free range chickens are the result of being fed organic corn and soy.
    The answer is pretty simple.

    Talk to your farmer.

    Oh, you’re not buying directly from the farmer?

    Therein lies the key point.

    Know Farms
    Know Food.

    1. Not everyone has access to a farmer! Alternatives must sometimes be researched.

      1. Hey Nicole:

        Where do you live that you don’t have direct access to farms and farmers?

        This is a real question, not a rhetorical device.


  82. Any thought Mark on Dr Sears concerns with egg yolks and AA (Arachidonic acid)? My LDL was recently 119 and I have RA and type 1.5 diabetes.
    He doesn’t believe I should be eating yolks at all. I have cut back from 3/day to 1 yolk with 2 egg whites.


  83. wow, that is crazy how expensive some of you pay for eggs (or the farmer’s charge, I guess). I get pastured, organic eggs from my farmer for $3 for jumbos. He saves the jumbos for me. 😉 We go through about 4 dz over 8-9 days.

  84. i was hoping you would address this because I heard it on the radio on my way to work today, about the study that is.
    I eat 3-4 eggs every day keep my carb count low (50-60mg/day). Glad to know I can continue!!
    Gosh I wonder what the egg industry is going to do about this!?

  85. If I had to give up my eggs I just might lose the will to live. More important to me than chocolate.

    Even my 5yo says eggs are his favorite food and has eaten them almost daily his whole life.

    We visit the chickens when we go to cut our Christmas tree from the same family farm.

  86. I am about had my fill of studies. Have you noticed lately how many studies there have been. Is the government giving out money for studies no matter what they are. I just hope people think before believing. Thanks for the article. Very good summation and lets leave it at that. LOL

  87. I’m so tired of the outrage of having to endure these types of studies every few weeks.

    I’ve given up eggs and moved on to pork belly, liver and other organs for breakfast. I can’t wait to see how eating a heaping pile of skin and fat ranks for my future health prospects.

  88. Well, I have every faith in the eggs laid by my three chooks, who get commercial “layer” pellets (mixed grain/legume/nutrients) plus fruit and vegetable scraps, oyster shell, and also roam my garden for a few hours a day, eating grass, weeds, worms, insects, anything else they can stick their beaks into. Great eggs.

  89. Sheesh eggs are expensive. Anyone have any good places to get eggs in los angeles, ca?

  90. I eat at least seven eggs including the yolk every day and feeling good. I do lots of weight lifting and the extra protein is a major boost. Not worried about the cholesterol at all. Of course we could be wrong but I’ll go with the research from Harvard on this one thanks. Keep Grokin

  91. I just wanted to post up something i came across a while back – i wish to god i had a bookmarked it. Basically a study done at harvard where they went back over the humble egg. They talked about the cholesterol in an egg, and found there to be equal good and bad. They cited a guy who ate 2 eggs every day and had uber low cholesteral levels. A bodybuilder who ate 6 eggs daily, his cholesterol was so low it wasnt on the scale. I remember seeing this as something to do with tim ferris and his 4 hour body good book btw, not unlike Marks insights. From a primal standpoint. Eggs have been around alot longer than Mc Donalds and im pretty sure our bodies know what to do with them and how to utilise in positive ways. Eggs = staple food for thousands and thousands of years. Some really good stuff in an egg, protein, and antixidants properties that encourage liver function and rejuvenation and protection. You can do a lot worse than eggs, you might even argue you could do musch better. My 2 cents!

  92. Should we not be turning this marketing tactic around to get people to stop smoking now! “Recent study shows cigarettes as harmful as eggs”! That should get them to stop.

  93. 2005 study cited by “anti egg” researchers: “Cholesterol feeding increases C-reactive protein and serum amyloid A levels in lean insulin-sensitive subjects.”

    “Conclusion: A high-cholesterol diet leads to significant increases in both inflammatory markers and non-HDL cholesterol levels in (lean) insulin-sensitive individuals but not in lean or obese insulin-resistant subjects.”

    Lean, insulin sensitive individuals such as myself fared the worst? BTW, I motor through a couple of dozen eggs a week and my CRP is very low (n=1). I have yet to see a followup or a retort to this study.

  94. My HDL almost doubled (from a good/normal level) when I went Primal/Paleo and my TG dropped to very low levels (also from a normal level) – clearly, the eggs are doing me in.

    What a delicious way to go!

  95. For those of you who are still concerned about cholesterol, please be aware that the cholesterol tests that are normally given are INCOMPLETE. The numbers don’t mean anything. It’s the SIZE of the cholesterol units that’s important. The large, so called “fluffy” cholesterol is not important. It’s the smaller, sharper cholesterol that’s dangerous. So if you come up with a high number, insist on the further test for the size of the cholesterol. This information came directly from my doctor who told me that many people are put on statins that shouldn’t be; that this information is widely known but rarely used. You can figure out why. Again, follow the money.

    1. Peter Attia does not agree with you. Unless I am not understanding him correctly, he believes LDL-P is the critical factor, not the size of the LDL.

  96. From what I’ve read in the book, “Good Calories, Bad Calories” the real culprit of plaque building is insulin. When you eat massive carbs, massive doses of insulin are released. Insulin causes cracks in artery walls. Plaque builds up on the crack sticking up like a log in water. That’s why statin drugs are prescribed for diabetics even if they have low cholesterol – it keeps artery walls smoother. They did experiements with dogs injecting them with insulin. All of them developed blockages – build up in this way. I forget the details of how they corrected this for the dogs. I’m tired of low confidence level “studies” being promoted as the truth. Doesn’t anyone have any scientific reasoning left in their brains?

  97. When I read this about eggs in this mornings paper it did scare me a bit I have been on the Primal diet for 3 months at the recomendation of my ND I have IBS with a small bowel over growth I feel so much better now but both of my parents had their caroids checked at 60 and my fathers was 70 o/o blocked He was developing Alzheimer’s my mother died at 89 of a stroke We grew up on eggs for breakfast so now I hae 2 every morning to hold me since I run 2 miles 5 days a week and take a pilitie class 2 days a week and lift weiths the other two I am now 60 and hate to think I could end up like them

  98. The poor humble egg. Always taking a beating. I’m a female in my mid 40’s, 19% BF, sleep well, work out with intensity AND I eat two to three whole eggs a day (deviled, by choice). You can take away my cigarettes (kidding), but don’t even think about taking away my eggs (not kidding).

  99. I READ this and almost had a heart attack. If I didn’t have eggs in my diet, I would be spending a large amount of my time hungry. I go through 4-6 eggs on a daily basis.

  100. I bet the influx of e-mails on this topic was similar to the e-mails I got when Kelly Starrett said to stop icing. THE WORLD WAS TURNED UPSIDE DOWN, MAN.

  101. So glad you wrote this! Just earlier this morning, my mother-in-law mentioned that “they” are again saying that eggs are ‘bad for us’… I told her I’d look into this study that the media is flouting as “proof” that eggs are bad, and low&behold, your article appeared! Thanks for doing my work for me, yet giving me the links to some egg-cellent (lol) articles!

  102. thanks for the post Mark, it is very interesting to see the impact of bad journalism… It almost made me doubt but you straightened that one out… obviously primal eating does good to the brain too 😉

  103. I eat 4-5 eggs daily. Best nutrition under the sun if you ask me. I’m (ahem) somewhat over 50, and have been eating that many eggs most of my life. Every once in awhile I treat myself to 2 or 3 duck eggs. Oh man are those things delicious. They are so fatty that even an egg-hound like me can only eat so many at one sitting!

  104. Whew!!

    I was about to shove my finger down my throat and lose my breakfast, but thankfully I read this and came to my senses! 🙂

    What a ridiculous and undeserved use of research dollars that I sure hope the public did not unknowingly pay for.

    “Don’t pay too much attention to ridiculous observational studies (this is part of stress reduction).” —AWESOME! Lol 🙂

  105. I think it’s BECAUSE they ate eggs they were saved from sure death from stroke brought on by all the processed food they likely ate. They wouldn’t have made it to 70 without ’em. BTW I eat very little sugar, exercise a lot, drink lots of water and green tea and at 44 my blood lipids are fantastic and my blood pressure is 108/60. AND I EAT EGGS!

  106. I tuned out on this study as soon as I heard that the negative effect was seen in those who ALREADY HAD atherosclerosis. That’s the same kind of illogical thinking that’s used by people who say high protein is bad for everyone because it’s bad for people with kidney disease. By that kind of warped logic, walking must be bad for everyone because it’s bad for people with broken legs.

  107. That’s such total crap. I’ve eaten 2 eggs every single day for over 2 years. My Dr. said “oh your cholesterol levels are in very healthy levels and over one year even improved. I said “that’s funny everyone warns about too many eggs and I eat them daily with little exception.” She said “oh you must just metabolize them well”. I thought maybe you guys just don’t know what you’re talking about. Eggs are probably the single most important ingredient in my diet.

  108. Thanks for doing the research behind this. Saw it in my news feed thing this morning and thought, “good grief, now I have to go pull a bunch of research on the benefits of eggs before I get calls from clients.” Oh yhea… I’m a dietitian, but I believe in eggs, butter, and bacon!

  109. Here in beautiful Ecuador (South America) our free range eggs run $1.50 a doz. Yolks with THE most deep orange color you can imagine. Two of them every morning scrambled “parico” style (tomatoes, onions, celery and red peppers) in a bit of coconut oil. Also some fish and heaps of veggies and fruits makes up the diet of this 84 year-old guy. The only grains eaten are steel-cut raw oats with goat yogurt half hour before the eggs. Don’t call myself any kind of dietary “ism”, just a Healthy Fooder. Works for me. Near perfect Chol, HDL and LDL for my age bracket.

  110. Fortunately these pesky food choices will be much simpler when the supermarkets start carrying 55 gallon drums of chemical chow.

  111. Thank you, Mark, for your continued, patient, thorough, well-supported by peer-reviewed literature responses to these sort of preposterous claims that get so unfortunately distributed by the lazy media. Aaaarrrrgggghhhh!

  112. I eat eggs almost every day. Love ’em. They are nature’s perfect food. I always have about 3 dozen of them around. My husband eats one raw every day.
    I use mashed avocados as “mayo”.
    Eat coconut butter with abandon. Ditto for bacon–just found a source for pastured bacon.
    Walk about 30 miles a week. Weights/conditioning 3 or 4 times a week. Lots of strong coffee and green tea. Can’t wait for my next blood lipid panel.

  113. I’ve been lucky enough to recently get 30 free eggs (and plenty more where those came from) from a friend who’s husband’s friend (a friend of a friend of a friend i suppose!) who owns a large parcel of property with lots of chickens that are free-roaming. She doesn’t eat many eggs herself probably 3-4 a week. I told her i eat 3 a day. she promptly started giving me all these delicious golden yolked eggs! SO HAPPY!

  114. My husband sent me a text saying they were talking about this on DC 101, the Elliot in the Morning Show. He said Elliot said 3 eggs a week is alot, I said “I guess we’re all gonna die soon cuz we each have about 2-3 eggs a day!” SO ridiculous.

  115. Recently in Australia, health bodies are saying that the egg has been blamed for a lot of things in the past that it shouldn’t have and that eating eggs is not detrimental to your health unless you are one of the obese fast food eaters who may also smoke and not exercise then the recommendation is still up to 3 eggs a week for the high risk group with lifestyle induced high cholesterol.
    I also agree that the free range eggs on natural pastures and grains are best, my chooks like lots of meaty things like snails and insects so they are too primal!!!

  116. Nice job looking into the big pharma ties of the researchers. You make some neat arguments, but they weren’t necessary. The study is invalid a priori.

  117. eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaattttttttttttttttttt eegggggggggggggssssssssssssssssssssssssss!!!

    1. Mark, that’s very Gollum of you. I’m bringing to mind the seen in The Hobbit when Bilbo poses the riddle of “A box without hinges, key, or lid,
      Yet golden treasure inside is hid.”


  118. Eggs are my perfect food. 98% of my eggs when I consume I consum en raw form . hi follow Warriors diet. I don’t eat much during the day. but around 3 PM . I would make a shake. one avocado to the whole eggs tablespoon of coconut oil. and Warriors milk way protein. With some goat milk. and I absolutely love it. and I will keep eating my eggs.

  119. I saw this egg article come out last week too, but you took the explination of why it was so wrong to another level. Thanks you! You’re awesome!

  120. Thanks, as an egg eater I read the article with some dismay, but knew (hoped) I’d find an honest source (trusty dailyapple) that’d dig deeper and get to the truth.

  121. As soon as I read the headline, I asked myself “What would Grok do?” I think Grok would eat eggs every chance he got.

  122. I have access to the “Effect of a high-saturated fat and no-starch diet on serum lipid subfractions…” study. Will reply to myself after I read it.
    Being a student has its perks.

    1. Ok, so the abstract that clicking on the link in today’s post brings you to gives a pretty good summary of the results, as far as I can tell.

      As for information of note not in the abstract:
      Whatever medications the patients were taking when they entered the trials remained unchanged in use, doseage, etc., for the duration of the study. eg., Those on statins stayed on statins, those off statins stayed off.

      Due to the anticipated adverse effects of adding SFA to an otherwise low-fat diet on serum markers of atherosclerotic cardiovascular disease, “only patients treated with statins to goal LDL levels who were also believed to bo unable to exercise sufficiently to lose weight were referred for participation.” This study, of course, directly contradicts the “overwhelming evidence” of said adverse effects.

      In the Patients and Methods section: “[all patients] were instructed to attempt to consume one half of all calories as saturated fat, primarily as red meat and cheese. Eggs and other low-fat forms of protein were allowed, regardless of cholesterol content. Fresh fruit and nonstarchy vegetables were prescribed in restricted amounts at each meal. Stach was forbidden. Dietary logs were used to enourage compliance”

      In the Results section: “Diet logs indicated uniform compliance with consumption of one half pound of red meat (precooked weight) or equivalent and starch avoidance at each meal. Unfortunately, accurate measurements of fruits and vegetables were not required; therefore, exact caloric consumption could not be calculated.”
      The week prior to the study, they ate red meat 1-3 times/week and no more than 2 eggs/week. During the study, they ate 1-1.5 pounds of red meat and 2-4 eggs/day. Incidentally, (‘despite’ was the authors’ word choice) total cholesterol, HDL, total LDL, and LDL subfractions were all unchanged.

      The researchers concluded that the results “suggest, but by no means prove” that a high-SFA, low/no starch diet can produce long-term weight loss without detriment to serum lipid levels. They recommend that various long-term studies be conducted.

  123. I’ll keep eating my pastured eggs and keep away from the cigarettes! What’s your favorite way to eat eggs? I like mine over medium with the yolks runny and a bunch of bacon!

  124. Ok, but I think we can all agree that smoking eggs is as bad for you as cigarettes!

  125. love my egg for breakfast every morning with a protein shake. that egg is the only thing that keeps me satiated & productive in the morning!

  126. I still don’t get how sugar filled fat free yogurt and processed flour sugary cereal is healthy while eggs are not. Until we started eating the supposedly healthy yogurt and cereal we didn’t have the obesity epidemic that we have now. I started giving my 2 year old eggs every morning. We do eat butter and cheese in our house so I scramble the eggs in butter and put a little cheese on top. He’s so much happier than before when he got cereal for breakfast. I don’t even remember how many eggs were in my omelet this morning but it was full of spinach and ham and cheese and plenty of egg yolks.

  127. “Yard” eggs might be found at a local feed store. The one I found sells eggs that are a delightful pale yellow, blue, green, tan, depending on the chicken. $3 a dozen.

  128. Mmm, eggs. I saw this too, and when I read it all the same sorts of problems appeared to me as well. I was eating my duck egg this morning when NPR was talking about it.

    I sell my duck eggs (when they are laying) for $2.50 a dozen. Right now they are just finishing their molt and starting to lay again. I would like to charge more, but people won’t travel to me to buy them. And in WA if you transport that means it is “processed” and you need a license. Not going to do that.

    Before Easter, I was able to sell Goose eggs (about the size of 4 hen eggs) for $6 a half dozen. Now those make a good quiche!

  129. I started this morning by eating one pound of bacon. After reading this article, and the related “research” findings, I decided to prepare five eggs (from happy chickens) cooked in coconut oil. Usually I eat six. I suppose I would be classified as a “half pack a day” smoker?

  130. Hi Mark,

    I don’t know if anyone else has posted this link yet but I remembered it as soon as I saw your post today.

    These people gave test subjects 3 eggs per day or egg substitute (i’d beg not to be in the egg substitute group) and found that HDL chlolesterol was increased at the end of the study (12 weeks) LDL cholesterol was unchanged. On top of that 15/18 subjects classified as having metabolic syndrome at the start of the study no longer had it by the end (and eggs were the only intervention!).

  131. As I’ve noted numerous times on my blog and elsewhere, such studies fail the test of scientific inquiry by virtue of not implementing control groups of lifelong fit persons expressing genomic wellness. Randomized studies of the general population, 75% of whom are sedentary, establish only the subclinical pathologies of the sedentary death disease, hence are specious and invalid – just as McGuff’s Body By Science is for similar reasons.

  132. This is so upsetting, I’m going to have to go make myself an orange julius with 1/2 c. orange juice, a cup of coconut milk, and 4-5 pastured yolks, with a shot of MCT oil and stevia to get my strength back.

  133. Thanks a lot for this article!! I saw the headline and was all “huh?” But didn’t really bother reading it. Been playing in the back of my mind, glad to have it confirmed as another observational study. I already suspected that.

  134. Whenever I search for knowledge on food with google I always make sure to add the word “paleo” or “mark’s daily apple”, otherwise I tend to get the mainstream, multiple conflicting “facts”, as answers to my search instead of what actually works.

    This sort of twoddle needs to stop, all it does is confuses people that are trying to figure out how to fix their health issues or just generally be healthier. Very frustrating!

  135. I just read about this in my paper this morning (” The sun” in the UK).

    It’s just so dumb – what about the benefits of eggs? What about people using eggs instead of the food that is actually bad for us? What is even more dumb is that on the same page, there is a graphical article about the cigarette industry and how by December 1st, all tobacco products will be in olive green packaging. GREEN! Why not red? I know it’s just a colour but in this society green is associated with “eco”, “Healthy” and “Natural”.

    I also read a few weeks ago how even people who have digestive issues should still eat grains… A few days later in the same paper it said to avoid them as it can cause IBS.

    What really annoys me is the media-consumers will probably believe this and buy some “egg-free” alternative and accept it as a gift from the industry trying to make them healthy. Thanks for the great post Mark!

  136. Eggs seem to be a huge grant money generator. They’ve been proven unhealthy, then healthy, then back again too many times to keep up. Gotta keep the checks coming in guys! Today I enjoyed two eggs over my famous chopped brisket chili,,,,death where is thy sting? 😉

  137. OK – it is so hard to find fresh eggs so what is next best? Egglands best?

  138. Ha! Love it. I read the long winded report in the ‘extensive ties to the statin idustry’ link and man that is messed up. It should have been titled, ”You’ve been eating eggs and you’re old therefore you will DIE if you don’t take Statins! Sponsored and funded by Big Pharma and Statins.’
    I think my career in marketing would be short lived.

  139. I eat several eggs a day- yolks and all- as I have done for years. In the 80’s- the American Heart Association..launched their “Eggs yolks are the devil” campaign. Egg yolks are one of the single highest food sources of Choline- a brain neurotransmitter…since that time- the incidence of Alzheimer’s disease has skyrocketed (lack of acetylcholine.) Same idea as when they changed the food pyramid and made America the fattest country on the face of the planet..This is not a coincidence…

  140. Why would anyone believe what the “scientific” community has to say? They are continually changing their minds on the same subject. Eggs have been good food for centuries, if not millennia. Then some morons back in the 70s or 80s said that eggs were bad. Then, they said, oops, eggs have their own enzyme or something that breaks down the “cholesterol” so they’re okay. Now, eggs are bad again. Screw ’em. Statistically, we all live about eighty years and then we die. I’m going to enjoy my eggs, bacon, sausage, lard, etc. along the way.

  141. Mark is, IIRC, just 3 years younger than my dad. My dad has a 46″ waist (up from 32″ before he started on 80mg lipitor 5 years ago (he’s now on the same amount of avirostatin – but it’s all the same shit).

    My dad, and this is an observation – is a blob. An old, obese, blob. He DRIVES everywhere. They went to watch the olympics closing ceremony in the church hall – they took the car (it’s just 500yds down the road, FFS!). My mother can’t get her skirts up around her waist for her belly (and she doesn’t believe me when I tell her that her 400g carbs – most of it grains – a day diet is responsible!). She’s also showing (they both are, in fact) early signs of dementia (my dad’s worse, obviously – because, as everyone here knows, statins cause memory loss. It’s not helping his demeanour much (he’s turning into his father Big Time!)).

    Right, I need to go to the doc’s. I think I’ve developed Crohn’s; and if he bangs on about how my grain-free, low-carb diet is to blame… I’m sick and effing tired of hearing “You’d be in better health, Sarah, if you’d stop being so silly! Grains give you fibre and are a good source of nutrition!” Yah, so why did they give me IBS…?! I’d sooner eat my own arm!

    Oh, sorry, ranting again! This is about eggs. I eat at least a half-dozen daily, cooked in EVCO.

  142. From stats I saw elsewhere, the pantients’ triglyceride levels ranged between 1.85 and 1.9x for group averages. Those numbers can mean only one thing: they eat high sugar diets. They are probably eating diets prescribed by these doctors who are more than likely killing them off with it. *sigh*

  143. Copper deficiency warning signs: gray hair, varicose veins, ruptured disc, hernia, high blood cholesterol, wrinkles and stroke.

    Another proven confounding variable.

  144. Ok that study is just stupid! How can they single out just one food and come to that determination? In Jan 2012 I was told by my doctor that my liver enzimes have been too high for the past couple years and that I needed to change my diet. So I did. I cut out processed starches (potatoes, bread, etc.) and sugars and all processed food. I eat 2 or 3 eggs a day along with 6 cups or more of salad and veggies and 80% organic meats ( no one’s perfect!) Last month I had my blood work done again and I lost 42 lbs, and my cholesterol dropped almost 15 points in just 6 months! Yes I eat eggs, but I don’t eat all the processed crap that is what really clogs up the arteries. I don’t exercise as much as I should but I feel so much better. I guess you shouldn’t believe everything you read.

  145. Well,

    Pretty good buncha stuff here.

    I’m gonna go ahead and add that an egg is not an egg.

    You can get all kinds of eggs at the grocery, and some cost more than others, and have fancier labels and maybe even fancy colors. But I gotta say, I don’t trust any of them.

    If it ‘profitably’ comes out of a USDA approved facility, and your grocer can sell it to you at a profit, then it’s probably devoid of anything akin to actual nutritional value.

    yeah, sure, you are much better off getting fresh veggies and real meats and preparing and eating that, than you are rolling throw the drive through, but that’s a pretty low bar, isn’t it?

    I’ve read so many nutritional analysis reports on eggs, I hate thinking about them any more. Eggs from the grocery really may be tasty, but in comparison to what you can get from the farm, where the birds are running around, they are basically like eating nothing, and may very well be ‘harmful’ (whatever that means). Notice that most large scale layer operations will not allow ‘visitors’, and that’s about all you need to know about how that food appears right there.

  146. Hi Mark,

    Didn’t have time to read all the comments but on the off chance no one mentioned it, I looked at the data yesterday and the people who ate the most eggs also had the lowest BMI, total cholesterol, LDL cholesterol and higher HDL. So what the hell is the supposed mechanism that eggs cause certain death exactly??


      1. This is apropos of controls used in scientific studies. Triglycerides, aka fatty acid molecules, are associated with hypertriglyceridemia. If they were at risk for this, then it would reflect on the findings of eggs being a detrimental factor.

  147. Here’s the thing about studies reported in the media – never ever go by what the usually scientifically illiterate journalists report. If you read the original study (which I have not bothered to do in this case), what the study actually says versus what is reported are frequently not the same.

    When I read these studies about eggs or red meat I always wonder what kind of eggs or red meat. It is possible that a lifetime of eating factory-meat isn’t great for your health.

  148. In January received email with document that was approx 4 pages long and detailed how watching evening news was worse for your body than processed white sugar. Glad I haven’t watched since then and do feel better.
    Kind of went through a B.S. withdrawal though!!

  149. I love eggs! Can’t wait for my new hens to start laying, should be just a few more weeks.

  150. tl;dr, but I didn’t put down the two home-made, hard-boiled, beet-pickled, free-range organic eggs that I was gobbling into my chops!

  151. Thank you for posting this Mark. I saw this study posted and all I wanted to do to respond is channel your brain. Now I can. Copy/paste link. Thank you!

  152. “Don’t pay too much attention to ridiculous observational studies (this is part of stress reduction).”

    That got a chuckle outa me. =)

  153. I was an avid egg eater until I got tested for food sensitivities, of which egg whites were just one of many things I have to stay away from. I haven’t had eggs since Jan. 29,2012. I am a lab tech so checked my cholestrol levels 3 months later. All my levels where normal. I have always had elevated chol and LDL levels. My doctor said to keep doing whatever I have been doing, as she was very happy to see my levels. Just saying……

  154. egg yolks: make them pasteurized??? Not sure I like that recommendation. Any explanation? I’ve been working for years to get my MD husband to eat eggs/yolks (strong family history of heart disease) without clutching his chest (coconut oil, too). Even *he* laughed at this study.

  155. The poor old egg getting a bad rap again. Eat eggs, don’t eat eggs, eat eggs – for god sakes make up your minds! It seems like a perfect package to me, after all it sustains life (the yolk that is). I’ll keep eating them.

  156. I was unable to read through this very lengthy chain – but to add my own suggestion – eat your eggs raw. I have 4 raw eggs every day. There is nothing better for you. For those worries about pathogens, keep in mind that every shopping mall in America used to have an “Orange Julius” which would sell an orange frothy shake made of orange juice, sugar and a raw egg. And millions of these drinks were consumed each and every day. Just make sure that your eggs are of the highest quality – non-soy fed if possible.

  157. Hmmm…
    From the footnotes section of the study:

    “CONFLICT OF INTEREST: None of the authors receives funding from purveyors of margarine or eggs. Dr Spence and Dr Davignon have received honoraria and speaker’s fees from several pharmaceutical companies manufacturing lipid-lowering drugs, and Dr Davignon has received support from Pfizer Canada for an annual atherosclerosis symposium; his research has been funded in part by Pfizer Canada, AstraZeneca Canada Inc and Merck Frosst Canada Ltd.”

  158. I heard about this study on Wait Wait Don’t Tell Me on PBS and guessed it was bogus. Whenever I hear about this kind of stuff I think, “Uh huh, but what else were they eating.”

    To put the blame for a health problem on one thing is ridiculous.

    And if eating egg yolks has the same effect as smoking cigs then how is it I can sprint and do high intensity exercise without falling over and gasping for air?

  159. There is more research that points to health hazards associated with egg (hen) consumption called the Harvard Nurse’s Study.
    This study was started in 1976 and was conducted over 30 years involving over 100,000 women, many of whom have now died. It is a study of risk factors for death. The number one killer of women is cardiovascular disease. Comparing risks, they came to the conclusion that consuming one egg a day had the equivalent risk of consuming 5 cigarettes daily for 15 years.

    You can see more information regarding this study at, Google, or YouTube by entering “What women should eat to live longer”

    It does not matter if the eggs are free range, organic, from Safeway, or produced in a lab.
    All eggs have an enormous amount of cholestrol that was meant to sustain an embryo for a long time.
    They were not meant to be consumed by humans on a regular basis

    1. bwhahaha, ok dude.

      That same study is where they got the headlines “HRT will save women’s lives” 10 yrs later when actual studies were done they found out HRT caused heart attacks.

  160. It amazes me the way that people respond to information like this. It is the same reason that cigarette smoking killed so many people in the years priors to the late 1960’s.

    Smoking, like food habits are hard to change. I guess that people’s will will have to be broken down by disease and / or deaths in one’s family.

  161. Thanks, Mark, for changing your mind and tackling this egg yolk panic inducing media blurb.

    I looked up some sources and foun an enormous list of international names with no background data attached. I know Europeans don’t use the MD after their names, but I am wondering if this was a list of miscellaneous people, all with a vested interest in pharmaceutical companies.

    All I did about it was to comment: “check out Paleo/Primal scientists’ findigs.”

    Hope they did. Hope they checked out YOURAS!

  162. I actually just did an interview with Tom Naughton of Fathead fame for my blog and near the end he brought up this very point. “Don’t pay attention to the sensational headlines because they’re based on bad science.” I’m paraphrasing.

    But he’s right. These “scientists” do a very limited observational study and consider it gold.

  163. Today was my last day at work before I head to college. One of my customers asked me what I was majoring in, and so I told her, Dietetics and Exercise Science. Upon hearing that I was interested in nutrition her eyes popped out of her head and she said “Did you hear that egg yolks are as bad for you as cigarrettes?!” I simply rolled my eyes and said, “Yes, that’s a bunch of bull. I’m still eating eggs.” 🙂 On top of that, a few months back, my dad was diagnosed with high blood pressure. the doctors wanted to put him on high blood pressure medicine but he refused. After that doctors appointment, I introduced him to low carb primal eating and helped him with an exercise plan and he lost about 30 pounds. That being said, he eats eggs and bacon every morning for breakfast. Today was a follow up appointment to see if his blood pressure got better. Needless to say it did. Guess cigs aren’t that bad for us after all? lolol. CW makes me so mad.

  164. Here on Bainbridge Island, WA, I pay $6.00 a dozen for fresh, local eggs in glorious colors! But, to me .50 an egg is a cheap meal. I eat one a day, poached on a large wad of steamed spinach, red pepper and onion for breakfast. Tried the 30-day vegan challenge to address cholesterol and my triglycerides went way up! Now will try a 6 week carb sensitivity program because I believe my side of the family is highly carb sensitive with insulin resistance. I am also wheat-free after reading Wheat Belly.

  165. My partner will be presenting this study to his research group this week as an example of “how not to over-interpret the ‘results’ of a poorly designed study”. He’s a physicist working on imaging (MRI) coronary arteries, with particular emphasis on atherosclerosis. Thank you for writing this post, which I referred him to as soon as I realised he’d found the journal article and planned to speak about it (I also referred him here: I’m sure it will be instrumental in providing him with talking points – as I said, he’s a physicist, so having better medical references to hand will help when the MDs in his group start arguing about saturated fats and cholesterol.

    We’ve both been primal devotees for about two years, and eat easily over a dozen (pastured and beautifully orange-yolked) eggs a week apiece. I was livid when I read the study in question, and am glad that it’s garnered such attention, to be honest – if only as a vehicle for us to explain why observational studies are useless in saying that “X/Y/Z is bad for you”. Correlation is NOT causality, particularly where confounding factors are involved. Now, if only I could make my students understand that concept…

  166. There is no such thing as “Critical Thinking.” It’s just thinking, some with more detail and some with less.

    There’s no need to bring humanist dogma into a discussion about eggs.

  167. Without digging deeper; I would have been misled by such a study. I would have thought that a serious doctor did a serious study; in a serious medical journal. To see the bad science; lack of follow up on confounding factors; and financial ties to mega drug companies; (drug pushers) is just beyond the pale. Financial ties to statin makers and they even let this drek get published?

  168. I’ve been wondering how many eggs is to many. I’ve gone a week before eating 4 eggs every day and would gladly eat more but i’m worried that it’s to much. any thoughts on how much is to much?

  169. Growing up I never gave much thought into questioning the experts. I mean they went through a lot of schooling to get labeled an expert so why should I question them then as I grew wiser with age I started to think about who funded the project, who is conducting the project (are there conflicts of interests) and their past studies in this or other fields. Once the thinking came I realized that the “experts” are mere mortals trying to make a living and pay their bills. I do my own research now and only look at studies after I do a little research on the who, what, when and whys.

  170. Also… amount you eat is a confounder. If you generally eat more than most people, you probably have higher cholesterol AND you probably eat more eggs.

  171. Hubby is diggin that I am primal. Enjoying his bacon and eggs again without the critical eye. Here in AZ we have a great little garden that sells fresh eggs as fresh as today for $5 doz. Awesome part, you can see how these chickens and Turkeys live. No doubt these the best eggs I have ever eaten!

  172. Even though it’s an older post, this is a great example of common fitness misconceptions today. Great article and I’m glad I gave it a read. I love eggs so to hear the contrary statement from popular belief is awesome. Now if I could only convince my wife….. 🙂

  173. I love eggs. Always have. And when I retire I will live where I can keep my own chickens and I will eat eggs until the day I die, God willing and the creek don’t rise!

  174. This is the perfect site for everyone who wants to understand
    this topic. You realize so much its almost hard to argue with you (not that I personally would want to…HaHa).
    You certainly put a brand new spin on a subject that has been discussed for years.
    Wonderful stuff, just wonderful!

  175. I saw this in an email I received and I was shocked and angry. So I paste this sentence into Google search and came up with 730,000 articles containing this \phrase. “Consuming the amount of cholesterol found in just a single egg-a-day appears to cut a woman’s life short as much as smoking , 5 cigarettes a day, for 15 years”
    This is appalling to make statements like this and the uneducated public believes it.
    So glad I found this rebuttal, thank you for posting the article. Some truth exists.

  176. Dietary cholesterol and saturated fat will raise your LDL particles and cholesterol only if you have the ApoE4 gene.

    If you have ApoE4, the conventional wisdom on egg yolks and saturated fat apply to you.

  177. This is thrilling. I began today only wanting to know whether I can eat two eggs a day. IN here: my unequivocal answer because I do trust Mark. Background: vegetarian since around age 12 basically. Eggs missing in action for a long time but not vegan person. Light dawns (long story) very recently. Eggs ecstatic addition to diet. Equal to: home cultured milk ikefir, and brewer’s not nutritional yeast… so delightfully bitter. I’m keto… wow… never would have predicted it but evolved into it and always had the instinct to make things hard on myself maybe a throw back to ancient times but didn’t think about that except in terms of reducing protein… in other words, didn’t know enough or have the time to think through until I noticed far down the line, effects from so many vital things missing. This site is the perfect place to by God’s grace entirely, be led. I need to regenerate in order to leave Hawai’i… a very daunting task during present times (see date of writing). So many things need changing and are changing, digestively! Yay Mark. From an always skinny always exercise fan. I feel I have to say the same thing over and over here to warn others away from what I did in thinking I was eating healthfully… and to show it’s possible to reach for keto and gladly give up all the grains I had more and more difficulty passing out of my body. That is what did it for me: fiber out of the body struggles that became more and more distracting.