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		<title>By: George</title>
		<link>http://www.marksdailyapple.com/weekend-link-love-64/#comment-462468</link>
		<dc:creator>George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 19:50:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hortense -

I agree about voting against CAFO-raised animals, but I think purchasing humanely raised products are a much stronger vote than abstaining completely.  Your purchase increases the demand for such products so more stores will carry them and consequently more people will become aware of them.

In particular, I love to purchase products marked &quot;Certified Humane&quot; by the Humane Farm Animal Care organization.  Right now I can only find eggs and bacon locally that are Certified Humane, but by buying those I&#039;m providing the market a nudge toward supplying more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hortense -</p>
<p>I agree about voting against CAFO-raised animals, but I think purchasing humanely raised products are a much stronger vote than abstaining completely.  Your purchase increases the demand for such products so more stores will carry them and consequently more people will become aware of them.</p>
<p>In particular, I love to purchase products marked &#8220;Certified Humane&#8221; by the Humane Farm Animal Care organization.  Right now I can only find eggs and bacon locally that are Certified Humane, but by buying those I&#8217;m providing the market a nudge toward supplying more.</p>
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		<title>By: Hortense</title>
		<link>http://www.marksdailyapple.com/weekend-link-love-64/#comment-462449</link>
		<dc:creator>Hortense</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 17:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I liked the link to Dr. Eades&#039; two part series on omnivorism, but I&#039;m wondering: does he censor his comments to exclude dissenting opinions? The reason I ask is because I posted a comment that has not been made public (still &quot;awaiting moderation&quot; after 4 days, despite other obvious activity on their website). My comment was a sincere attempt to have a discussion, and was in no way trolling. Maybe I&#039;m spoiled with MDA&#039;s open approach to criticism and dialogue. I&#039;d hate for people in the paleo/primal community to &quot;manufacture assent,&quot; so to speak, by filtering out critical commentary.

Anyway, here is my post reproduced here, in response to Eades&#039; 2-part series and some of the comments on his blog that insulted vegetarians. I&#039;d be interested in thoughts from people interested in a good, honest debate.

I’m a vegetarian who completely agrees that we evolved to eat meat.

But I’m also a consumer in today’s society, and when I buy and eat meat, I am supporting a horribly broken system that is polluting our planet and our health. Wile and/or pasture-raised meat is unquestionably healthy, but factory-farmed meat, I’m not so sure about. It’s definitely not environmentally healthy, and it’s definitely not humane. I stopped eating meat because I wanted to “vote” for change to the way animals are raised and the way meat is produced.

It’s easy to say “those vegetarians are idiots” if you assume that all of us truly believe humans are herbivores. But some of us are as smart or even smarter than you, and have given this a lot more thought, and can manage to lead healthy lives without meat. But you shut down any productive dialogue and fail to reach any new understanding when you take that approach.

And yes, I agree, I could only buy pasture-raised meat and/or hunt for meat myself. Perhaps I will do that at some point. But my health hasn’t suffered for lack of meat. I am able to stay away from processed grains, trans fats and PUFAs, I get a good amount of mono- and saturated fats and protein. I, along with many other vegetarians, an do what we think is right to help change the system while remaining very healthy. In fact, I would hazard a guess that vegetarians who eat the way I do are much healthier than meat-eaters who rely on CAFO-raised animals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I liked the link to Dr. Eades&#8217; two part series on omnivorism, but I&#8217;m wondering: does he censor his comments to exclude dissenting opinions? The reason I ask is because I posted a comment that has not been made public (still &#8220;awaiting moderation&#8221; after 4 days, despite other obvious activity on their website). My comment was a sincere attempt to have a discussion, and was in no way trolling. Maybe I&#8217;m spoiled with MDA&#8217;s open approach to criticism and dialogue. I&#8217;d hate for people in the paleo/primal community to &#8220;manufacture assent,&#8221; so to speak, by filtering out critical commentary.</p>
<p>Anyway, here is my post reproduced here, in response to Eades&#8217; 2-part series and some of the comments on his blog that insulted vegetarians. I&#8217;d be interested in thoughts from people interested in a good, honest debate.</p>
<p>I’m a vegetarian who completely agrees that we evolved to eat meat.</p>
<p>But I’m also a consumer in today’s society, and when I buy and eat meat, I am supporting a horribly broken system that is polluting our planet and our health. Wile and/or pasture-raised meat is unquestionably healthy, but factory-farmed meat, I’m not so sure about. It’s definitely not environmentally healthy, and it’s definitely not humane. I stopped eating meat because I wanted to “vote” for change to the way animals are raised and the way meat is produced.</p>
<p>It’s easy to say “those vegetarians are idiots” if you assume that all of us truly believe humans are herbivores. But some of us are as smart or even smarter than you, and have given this a lot more thought, and can manage to lead healthy lives without meat. But you shut down any productive dialogue and fail to reach any new understanding when you take that approach.</p>
<p>And yes, I agree, I could only buy pasture-raised meat and/or hunt for meat myself. Perhaps I will do that at some point. But my health hasn’t suffered for lack of meat. I am able to stay away from processed grains, trans fats and PUFAs, I get a good amount of mono- and saturated fats and protein. I, along with many other vegetarians, an do what we think is right to help change the system while remaining very healthy. In fact, I would hazard a guess that vegetarians who eat the way I do are much healthier than meat-eaters who rely on CAFO-raised animals.</p>
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		<title>By: Wednesday 090930 : Emergent Fitness</title>
		<link>http://www.marksdailyapple.com/weekend-link-love-64/#comment-462071</link>
		<dc:creator>Wednesday 090930 : Emergent Fitness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 23:12:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Get Bigger Muscles By Walking Are you resting enough? Interview with the Paleo Cookbook Author A Round Up of Cool Links From Mark&#8217;s Daily Apple. I especially liked the vegiterian articles from Dr. Eades that mark linked [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Get Bigger Muscles By Walking Are you resting enough? Interview with the Paleo Cookbook Author A Round Up of Cool Links From Mark&#8217;s Daily Apple. I especially liked the vegiterian articles from Dr. Eades that mark linked [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Gold</title>
		<link>http://www.marksdailyapple.com/weekend-link-love-64/#comment-461812</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Gold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 04:19:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, Mark, have you -- or anyone else here or elsewhere -- written about how stupid this article is:

http://www.drmcdougall.com/misc/2004nl/040100puproteinoverload.htm

Or...well...an objective analysis would be fine, too...

I&#039;d like to pass an analysis on to friends. I know someone who is following this guy&#039;s diet for health reasons (suspected leaky gut). As jacked up as the article is, I don&#039;t see how following McDoug&#039;s diet can be in any way a good thing.

--Michael</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, Mark, have you &#8212; or anyone else here or elsewhere &#8212; written about how stupid this article is:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.drmcdougall.com/misc/2004nl/040100puproteinoverload.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.drmcdougall.com/misc/2004nl/040100puproteinoverload.htm</a></p>
<p>Or&#8230;well&#8230;an objective analysis would be fine, too&#8230;</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to pass an analysis on to friends. I know someone who is following this guy&#8217;s diet for health reasons (suspected leaky gut). As jacked up as the article is, I don&#8217;t see how following McDoug&#8217;s diet can be in any way a good thing.</p>
<p>&#8211;Michael</p>
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		<title>By: AJP</title>
		<link>http://www.marksdailyapple.com/weekend-link-love-64/#comment-461660</link>
		<dc:creator>AJP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 16:57:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t believe my eyes. 
The Huffington Post actually attempts to publish a truthful article minus the sat fat hit.
I guess a broken clock is right twice a day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t believe my eyes.<br />
The Huffington Post actually attempts to publish a truthful article minus the sat fat hit.<br />
I guess a broken clock is right twice a day.</p>
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		<title>By: Erin Nissen</title>
		<link>http://www.marksdailyapple.com/weekend-link-love-64/#comment-461635</link>
		<dc:creator>Erin Nissen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 15:33:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark,

What is the reciepe to your Green Monster drink?  I really love your primal posts...we are so fortunate to recieve all of your amazing knowledge.  
All the best.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark,</p>
<p>What is the reciepe to your Green Monster drink?  I really love your primal posts&#8230;we are so fortunate to recieve all of your amazing knowledge.<br />
All the best.</p>
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		<title>By: Indiscreet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Indiscreet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 08:42:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heh, the tongue patch is ridiculous. Just get your tongue pierced! I couldn&#039;t eat solids for two weeks after getting mine done, and lost 4lbs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh, the tongue patch is ridiculous. Just get your tongue pierced! I couldn&#8217;t eat solids for two weeks after getting mine done, and lost 4lbs.</p>
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		<title>By: Grok</title>
		<link>http://www.marksdailyapple.com/weekend-link-love-64/#comment-461587</link>
		<dc:creator>Grok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 05:19:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can I link love my personal primal challenge?
http://castlegrok.com/kill-to-eat</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can I link love my personal primal challenge?<br />
<a href="http://castlegrok.com/kill-to-eat" rel="nofollow">http://castlegrok.com/kill-to-eat</a></p>
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		<title>By: Gordie Rogers</title>
		<link>http://www.marksdailyapple.com/weekend-link-love-64/#comment-461576</link>
		<dc:creator>Gordie Rogers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 01:59:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When will the world learn that the fact we can&#039;t get enough B12 for our brains on a strict vegan diet and we have incisors for tearing meat. I&#039;m a proud omnivore! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When will the world learn that the fact we can&#8217;t get enough B12 for our brains on a strict vegan diet and we have incisors for tearing meat. I&#8217;m a proud omnivore! <img src='http://www.marksdailyapple.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Andrea</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 01:19:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Dave Fish, it&#039;s a great article other than harping on Saturated Fats. Articles like this crop up every once in a while, something similar ran in Vogue Mag. in 2006 but it&#039;s going to take many more to really make an impact mainstream. The belief that dietary fat and cholesterol causes obesity and heart disease is so ingrained in people&#039;s heads that it is going to take decades to turn it around. Also, huffington post is known to be a bit off-beat and alternative, we need this stuff on fox news!! But yeah, a great start!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Dave Fish, it&#8217;s a great article other than harping on Saturated Fats. Articles like this crop up every once in a while, something similar ran in Vogue Mag. in 2006 but it&#8217;s going to take many more to really make an impact mainstream. The belief that dietary fat and cholesterol causes obesity and heart disease is so ingrained in people&#8217;s heads that it is going to take decades to turn it around. Also, huffington post is known to be a bit off-beat and alternative, we need this stuff on fox news!! But yeah, a great start!</p>
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