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27 Oct

Weekend Link Love

weekend link loveHey guys, let’s try something cool. If you use Twitter, send a tweet to @TomHanks on my (@Mark_Sisson) behalf. I think we can help the dude beat type 2 diabetes if he agrees to give it a go.

Research of the Week

Is the endowment effect a universal human trait, as many claim? Apparently not. Hadza Bushmen living near major roads who participate in the tourism trade have it, while otherwise culturally and genetically identical Hadza Bushmen who have no contact with tourism do not. It may be that the endowment effect arises from market-driven societies.

When we sleep, the brain clears out the toxins that accumulate during the day.

Interesting Blog Posts

Professor Tim Noakes shows how a rigorous $700 million trial proved that “heart-healthy” low-fat diet interventions worsened the prognosis in heart disease and diabetes. Whoops.

Media, Schmedia

I was recently named one of the top ten “social healthmakers” in nutrition. I’m honored.

After reading this Business Insider piece, I think I can pack it up here. My job is pretty much done.

Saturated fat is not the major issue,” breathed the dreamy doctor, staring through you. It was a tough read, that gaze, and meeting it required physical exertion. Was it cocksure? Photo-shoot fatigue? A hint of disgust cast the way of CW? His right eye painted a different picture than his left. (Hat tip to Dr. Ronesh Sinha, fresh off highly regarded PrimalCon Tahoe presentations and now hard at work completing his book, The South Asian Health Solution, who sent me the link.)

Everything Else

Featuring my good friends Dr. Michael Eades and Dr. Jonny Bowden, this video from Oz really explains how the lipid hypothesis has misled us for so long.

It seems there’s a “paleo bakery” in the Netherlands. Sounds interesting. Any locals want to check it out and give us a report?

Sam Feltham ate a low-carb, high-fat hypercaloric diet and got leaner; he gained weight and lost inches off his waist. Then, he ate a high-carb hypercaloric diet and got fatter; he gained weight and inches. It’s a cool experiment that shows calorie counts don’t tell the whole story.

Ancestral diets are hurting the bread industry. Not a lot, but still.

How one woman went from “I will NEVER go paleo” to “I tried the paleo diet and I’m never turning back.” Seen it a thousand times.

And finally, is this pic relevant to Primal living? No, not really (“something something Inuit”). But it’s incredibly cute, so I’m leaving it.

Recipe Corner

Time Capsule

One year ago (Oct 27 – Nov 2)

Comment of the Week

“I’m thinking we set up a drum circle for the next PrimalCon. What do you think?”

How come no one ever suggests setting up a brass band for these types of things? icon wink

Yeah, or how about an ululation party?

- Hey, if you guys provide the brass and rapidly moving uvulas, it’s all good!

You want comments? We got comments:

Imagine you’re George Clooney. Take a moment to admire your grooming and wit. Okay, now imagine someone walks up to you and asks, “What’s your name?” You say, “I’m George Clooney.” Or maybe you say, “I’m the Clooninator!” You don’t say “I’m George of George Clooney Sells Movies Blog” and you certainly don’t say, “I’m Clooney Weight Loss Plan”. So while spam is technically meat, it ain’t anywhere near Primal. Please nickname yourself something your friends would call you.

  1. Hey reading your post my all the work pretty much done :) Well we know that so many men and women obsess about their weight everyday. As good as a pair of scales is in your home to track your weight loss, it is also extremely misleading.
    Thanks for sharing sensible..

    Jenny Stafford wrote on October 27th, 2013
  2. meh. all the vegans have tweeted their forks over knives low fat vegan diet will cure type 2 diabetes. I’d rather not start a twitter war with the trolls :P

    Erin wrote on October 27th, 2013
  3. Business Insider is just Huffington Post for men.

    They use algorithms to calculate what headlines to cover, and then use low skill humans to crowd source the articles.

    So much junk.

    A.B. Dada wrote on October 27th, 2013
  4. I hate to break it to you, Mark, but Hungry Girl was in that list too. Aaaack… I did like some of the other entries though.

    Aria Dreamcatcher wrote on October 27th, 2013
  5. From the “saturated fat not the issue” section (http://www.bmj.com/content/347/bmj.f6340): “Adopting a Mediterranean diet after a heart attack is almost three times as powerful in reducing mortality as taking a statin. The recently published PREDIMED randomised controlled trial was stopped early after it showed that in high risk people the Mediterranean diet achieved a 30% improvement over a “low fat” diet in terms of cardiovascular events”

    So if they went full-on Paleo or Primal, would they have experienced a 60% improvement? Or if they went overboard and did an Atkins Induction or keto 4:1 epileptic diet, would they have seen a 90% improvement?

    “Just wonderin’”, breathes this non-doctor.

    Wenchypoo wrote on October 27th, 2013
    • I come from working on a stroke unit and the amount of Statins that are prescribed is ridiculous. EVERY day statins are prescribed to people who have strokes for high cholesterol levels. It’s ridiculous.

      Matt wrote on October 28th, 2013
  6. I love the high-fat, high-calorie meals. People need to get off of the calories in = calories out equation as well as the low fat = healthy paradigm.

    Dr. Anthony Gustin wrote on October 27th, 2013
    • I roll my eyes a lot at people who are “on a diet” eating some weight watchers approved junk food. It’s low-fat, low-calorie, so it must be good for you, right?
      Then they tell me my egg coffee and bacon is going to kill me or that “just wait, all that fatty food will catch up to you some day”. Right. Because the food people ate before we were house-broken and put into grey cubicles where we stare at glowing rectangles is clearly inferior to pucks of fibrous factory food.

      His Dudeness wrote on October 27th, 2013
      • with that kind of attitude, you are no better than the radical vegans… definitely not gonna gain any followers. it’s unfortunate, but some people just don’t know any better. we are blessed to have a wealth of knowledge that others don’t. it’s important to get off the high horse and educate others with humility. or even better, lead by example. that is what’s gonna change the world.

        Erin wrote on October 27th, 2013
  7. I’m responsible for crusting that lamb :) Thanks for the share Mark!

    Cat wrote on October 27th, 2013
  8. About the so-called “paleo bakery” in the Netherlands: we heard about it a couple of months ago and went there, we were so excited there was a paleo store in our home town! After checking out the website we expected a nice coffee house with delicious paleo cakes. It turned out to be a little corner in a clothes store where they did not have any cakes or baked products in stock at the time we went there. However it should be possible to order an entire cake. We were pretty disappointed… The good news is that there is an organic bakery in Germany that distributes it’s baked products to the Netherlands. They have amazing almond meal/almond paste cookies!

    justine wrote on October 27th, 2013
    • What is the name of the organic bakery in Germany? Would love to try their products.

      Simone wrote on October 27th, 2013
      • The bakery has a website http://www.biobakker.nl We discovered the almond-almond paste cookies in a small organic cafe in the northern Dutch province Drenthe. They probably also distribute their products elsewhere in the Netherlands and Germany. Do note that most of their products are organic whole grain though ;) good luck!

        Justine wrote on October 28th, 2013
    • What a coincidence that the “paleo bakery” in Amsterdam is being published today when just this afternoon I went to the address on the website, very happy and excited and found a clothes store. I asked the guy from the hotel next door and told me there has never been a bakery there, that he knows of. After that, I saw that on their Facebook page they announced they would only take orders for entire cakes. I was SO disappointed :(
      It seems to me that they should really update their website.

      Andrea wrote on October 27th, 2013
  9. I am rather disappointed with the endorsement of Sam Feltham`s ridiculous, confirmation-bias-riddled “jokesperiments”. No one “gets leaner” on a “hypercaloric diet”, high-fat or otherwise, provided that the respective person`s lifestyle (exercise etc.) remains unchanged (and protein is controlled for) (if anything, “pure” carbohydrate overfeeding favors less bodyfat accumulation due to the inefficiency of de novo lipogenesis in humans); whenever scientists rigorously examine claims such as these (i.e. in a metabolic ward-setting, involving reliable measurement methods regarding energy metabolism, such as DLW, and body composition, such as MRI/CT, etc.), they turn out to be little more than hot air. If Feltham`s results favored “conventional wisdom”, the “Paleosphere” would ridicule him with reference to his lack of scientific rigor (regarding the set-up of his “experiment”). Why not employ a consistently high intellectual standard where data evaluation is concerned, regardless of whether the respective data come from Paleo proponents or mainstream pundits? Everything else is bigotry.

    Battousai wrote on October 27th, 2013
    • PS:

      Dr. Spencer Nadolsky is conducting an experiment with a similar set-up (albeit in an isocaloric state); so far, his results appear to favor high-carb over low-carb. In contrast to Feltham, he stresses that such “n=1″-experiments in a “free-living-setting” have limited general significance, and mentions that confounding factors could be (partly) responsible for his results.

      Battousai wrote on October 27th, 2013
      • But it’s funny how n=1 “experiments” work, whereas even n=∞ sometimes does not, when applied to 1.

        Cody wrote on October 27th, 2013
        • As far as my own experience goes, “n=1″-experiments often don`t work (as expected) either; it can be difficult or even downright impossible to pin down “key variable(s)”, seeing as one usually changes several things at once (wittingly or unwittingly; one can`t usually keep “external stressors” constant, for example). Anyway, my point was that badly controlled anecdotes are pretty much at the “useless” end on the “continuum of evidential value”, which, had Sam Feltham raved about the “”body composition magic” of his hypercaloric 80-10-10-raw-vegan-diet”, everyone would have been quick to point out.

          Battousai wrote on October 27th, 2013
    • Battousai, maybe you should do an n=1 test of your own as a rebuttal.

      Diane wrote on October 27th, 2013
      • As I have already mentioned, a guy called Spencer Nadolsky is doing something like that right now (albeit in an isocaloric state, but that should be of similar value in elucidating whether low-carb or high-carb is “superior” for the particular test subject at a given caloric intake, right?). As for me, I actually have tried to test whether the claim that “one can`t gain weight on a “proper” low-carb (i.e. ketogenic) diet” holds true for me personally: I consumed a hypercaloric diet to the tune of about 50% excess calories (i.e. an additional 1500 kcal on top of my usual maintenance intake) while remaining in ketosis (as confirmed via ketostix) for several weeks, and I most definitely did gain weight and fat (as confirmed via DXA-scan); alas, my set-up was just as lacking in scientific rigor as Feltham`s – not to mention that both our sample sizes are rather unimpressive – , which is why my results are just as meaningless in a general sense. I still think that a ketogenic diet might be the one dietary pattern to actually confer some sort of “metabolic advantage” (due to renal and pulmonary “loss” of ketone bodies, among other things), but in order to “flesh out” that hypothesis we need methodologically sound ketogenic overfeeding studies, not badly thought out low-carb-versus-high-carb-”n=1″-experiments carried out by a “personal trainer” with a vested interest and surrounded by unwarranted media hype.

        Battousai wrote on October 28th, 2013
        • Dig the user name, Man-Slayer :)

          daniel wrote on October 28th, 2013
        • Arigatou gozaimasu.

          Battousai wrote on October 29th, 2013
    • Oh, Mark, you and your SEO machine. You’re on page 3 of google for Tom Hanks Diabetes but Tom Naughton has you beat. He’s on page 2. Can you beat Fat Head? Can you get to page 1?

      Diane wrote on October 27th, 2013
    • I agree. something seems fishy about his experiment. 5000 cal a day is A LOT when you aren’t increasing training. it didn’t say what he was doing for activity did it?
      either that or he is a serious outlier. I don’t think his results are typical at all.

      Erin wrote on October 27th, 2013
  10. That’s not a good measure of the endowment effect at all. The items in question were identical, so there was no reason to trade. Choosing not to trade under these circumstances is not irrational at all, since there’s nothing to gain from trading. It’s interesting that the low-exposure Hadza behaved differently, but not evidence of greater rationality.

    Brandon Berg wrote on October 27th, 2013
  11. The gal who said she would never go Paleo and did…mentioned that a lot of critics of the diet believe it to be too calorie restricted! Say what??????? Where do these critics come from, a hole in the ground?

    Nocona wrote on October 27th, 2013
  12. Haha, I live literally on the same street as that Paleo bakery but I needed you to tell me of its existence :P I’ll check it out! Hoping it’s great!

    leanne wrote on October 27th, 2013
    • Is not there :(
      Apparently they only take orders online and by phone now. I went there just this afternoon.

      Andrea wrote on October 27th, 2013
  13. Re the BMJ article… it’s amazing to me that the huge meta-analysis showing that fat ≠ heart disease did not get in the press, but a doctor reading it and reporting what it says does… go figure. We are social primates who are more impressed by what other (high status) people say than what the facts say. That’s how we got into this mess!

    Scott UK wrote on October 27th, 2013
  14. Don’t worry, the industry will gladly spending whatever amount is necessary to get the answer the want.

    Jim Rendek wrote on October 27th, 2013
  15. That video with Dr. Eades et al is outstanding! Well worth the time to watch and send the link to others. Some people won’t read a book or article on the topic, but will watch a video. Great summary of the research and why we got so hoodwinked by bad dietary advice for decades.

    Thanks for sharing it, Mark!

    Laurie wrote on October 27th, 2013
  16. I need to give a thumbs down to tweeting Tom Hanks. I am suspecting that he knows of Primal living based on the past weeks worth of mentioning his name. As many people have found with their own family members, you can lead a horse to water, but you can’t make it drink. (Have even tried with my own brother with Type II, for all the good it did. He does know about it though, and if he wants, he will know where to go to learn more.) Don’t hassle or bully him. Let him do his own research. He is an adult, and I suspect a smart one at that, who WILL look up all on his own ways to help himself.

    Mark, you putting that in the top line makes it look like you want that feather called Tom Hanks in your hat. That is all good and fine, but this is going a bit too far and a bit too much like a commercial. What happens to your brand if he does go Primal and fails – or worse yet, like Jobs, dies? Nope, let this one go. If he wants to be your poster child – let him come to you. Otherwise, you have a lot of success stories that already are very convincing.

    CrazyCatLady wrote on October 27th, 2013
  17. Congratulations Mark for your recognition as a top ten Social Healthmaker, well deserved.

    George wrote on October 27th, 2013
  18. I would love to see Tom Hanks on Team Primal! He seems to be such a likeable guy and I am sure Mark and he would get along really well. I am not on Twitter, how about Facebook?

    Liz wrote on October 28th, 2013
  19. Agreed pestering Tom Hanks is likely to be counterproductive.

    Rhiannon wrote on October 28th, 2013
  20. I don’t know if you’ve seen the headline in The Daily Express .

    http://www.express.co.uk/news/health/438600/Eating-fat-is-good-for-you-Doctors-change-their-minds-after-40-years

    At Long Last eh?!

    It’s only a start, but hopefully (for the health of the nation) others will start looking into it and progress might be made in the battle of the obesity epidemic!

    Dianne wrote on October 28th, 2013
  21. Tweet sent to @tomhanks!

    Dave B. wrote on October 28th, 2013
  22. Slightly off topic, but Roger Moore – of 007 fame – has now been diagnosed with diabetes as well. Has probably had it for years …

    Emily wrote on October 29th, 2013
  23. My mom was in that “heart healthy” study. I just sent her a link to the article. I’ve been trying to convince her that fat isn’t the devil for years but she keeps telling me that I’m not a doctor and her dietician told her to eat this way. :(

    Maybe now she’ll listen.

    Mrs. Strom wrote on October 29th, 2013
  24. Ooh, a Paleo bakery in my country?!
    Too bad Amsterdam is a two hour drive from where I am…
    But hey, maybe I’ll hop on the train in the weekend and bring home a cake. :)

    The_Introvert_Huntress wrote on October 30th, 2013
    • Oh, just found out that they only sell whole cakes (and only four at that, too) and that you have to pre-order them. And that they’re in a clothes shop. :(

      The_Introvert_Huntress wrote on October 30th, 2013
  25. Congrats Mark on the “social health makers” honor!

    Erik wrote on October 30th, 2013
  26. I just wanted to share this 30 minute documentary. Well worth taking time out to watch :-) http://www.abc.net.au/catalyst/stories/3876219.htm

    Salamagundy wrote on October 31st, 2013

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