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2 Jun

Weekend Link Love – Edition 245

Weekend Link LoveResearch of the Week

A recent study suggests that people taking statins get “less bang from their exercise buck” than people not on statins. 

Infecting (“dosing”?) celiac people with the hookworm parasite made them more tolerant of gluten in a recent study.

Interesting Blog Posts

Boy, Walter Willett really, really doesn’t like science that conflicts with his recommendations.

If you like the work of Chris Masterjohn, PhD, and want him to continue doing it, consider donating to his lab.

Media, Schmedia

Why are so many top endurance athletes having heart problems? The NZ Herald explores the situation.

In case you missed it (I know I never miss an episode, personally; love me some Whoopi), Kelly Starrett was recently seen mobilizing the cast and guests of ABC’s The View. Kelly’s segment starts at 19:20.

Everything Else

An illustrated history of heart disease (and our pathetic attempts to fix it).

Another helpful guide to building your own standing workstation. It’s geared towards gamers but should work fine for anyone.

A challenger appears: GMO wheat inexplicably pops up in an Oregon wheat field.

Speaking of which, here’s farming, before and after Monsanto.

Recipe Corner

Time Capsule

One year ago (Jun 2 – Jun 8)

Comment of the Week

Unplug from the 24/7 media stream says the online blog post.

Maybe so, but it remains my best option at getting the word out.

You want comments? We got comments:

Imagine you’re George Clooney. Take a moment to admire your grooming and wit. Okay, now imagine someone walks up to you and asks, “What’s your name?” You say, “I’m George Clooney.” Or maybe you say, “I’m the Clooninator!” You don’t say “I’m George of George Clooney Sells Movies Blog” and you certainly don’t say, “I’m Clooney Weight Loss Plan”. So while spam is technically meat, it ain’t anywhere near Primal. Please nickname yourself something your friends would call you.

  1. Standing while gaming has got to be the most stupid thing ive read on the internet this year so far.

    Nekron wrote on June 2nd, 2013
    • Standing desks have proven health benefits in offices. Why not for gaming?

      Gaming culture has a lot of trolling that disrupts any attempt to discuss health, but I expected to see better on MDA.

      Dave wrote on June 2nd, 2013
      • Agreed. I myself got a standing desk for work at home, and whenever I fire up my gaming machine which shares it, I make sure to put the desk in stand mode for as long as I can. It’s seriously the most no-brainer idea I can conceive of.

        OTZ wrote on June 2nd, 2013
    • 1) You don’t need to stand the entire time, but every alternating regularly between the two definately helps.

      2) Although this is an extreme example, there are cases where hardcore gamers have died from sitting in one spot too long and developing blood clots (or something to that effect, correct me if I’m off). Although most people don’t sit nearly as long as these guys/gals were reported to sitting, it still makes sense to be up and moving a bit while doing most activities.

      Plus standing allows you to develop a stance that puts you more into the game…think ducking/weaving while playing first person shooters 😉

      Jacob wrote on June 3rd, 2013
    • Makes sense to me ..Come on guys free your minds!! 😉

      Jonny wrote on June 4th, 2013
  2. That episode of The View, dated 5/24, is no longer available for viewing on the site.

    Alice wrote on June 2nd, 2013
    • It appears to be available here on YouTube:

      Mark Sisson wrote on June 2nd, 2013
  3. It’s pretty much a no-brainer that the long-term, high-intensity stress endurance athletes subject themselves to will eventually lead to health and heart problems. The body simply isn’t designed to deal with it, and you are creating a situation where “stressed out to the max” is a “normal” condition for your ody to find itself in.

    So, caveat emptor; just remember that the very first Marathon runner dropped dead, btw.

    Andrew wrote on June 2nd, 2013
    • “So, caveat emptor; just remember that the very first Marathon runner dropped dead, btw.”

      LOL – Don’t mention this to serial marathoners!! They’ll take it like a challenge. (Seriously, I got my ear chewed off for mentioning it.)

      “It’s pretty much a no-brainer that the long-term, high-intensity stress endurance athletes subject themselves to will eventually lead to health and heart problems. The body simply isn’t designed to deal with it, and you are creating a situation where “stressed out to the max” is a “normal” condition for your ody to find itself in.”

      Yep. But my personal relationship with one suggests they will ignore all evidence that’s contrary to what they want to do. There’s a runner/endurance culture out they and they steep themselves heavily in a few surmises about our Paleo past and some studies they say what they want to hear. All evidence to the contrary — even the idea that it’s possible to wear ourselves out — is push away. :(

      Amy wrote on June 3rd, 2013
  4. hmmmmm……wonder if that sardine mayo would be good made with anchovies……I bet it would! Thanks for this Mark, what a great idea !

    Sitara wrote on June 2nd, 2013
    • Hmm, pretty much a classic Ceasar salad dressing — scratch, of course.

      dkd2001 wrote on June 2nd, 2013
  5. Um, scientist can keep their hookworms. I will keep being celiac. Gross-gag-barf

    Cassandra wrote on June 2nd, 2013
  6. Monsato secretly dropped the GMO wheat into fields so that no one has a choice but to accept the new plant after it takes over, maybe?

    Brian Kozmo wrote on June 2nd, 2013
    • Not sure how it would help their cause. I live in Oregon, and the state is currently trying to quash a move by my county to declare itself GMO-free. Seems to me that GMO wheat growing unbeknownst to the farmer is ammunition for anti-GMO side. Maybe we’ll prevail after all. :)

      Karen P. wrote on June 2nd, 2013
    • Yeah, when you get a box of cereal, you have to watch out for those “free” samples.

      Toaster for sale! wrote on June 2nd, 2013
  7. I don’t understand the automatic dismissal of GMO foods. Haven’t humans been modifying the genes of all the plants since the beginning of Agriculture, by selecting some stronger plants over other? Couldn’t GMO foods that require fewer pesticides due to built in resistance be a better choice than crops that need lots of spraying due to pests that attack it? In that linked Facebook post about ag before and after Monsanto, all I see is ad hominen attacks. What is the science behind the fear? Or is it simply fear mongering by one side? I have no real knowledge about the GMO or non-GMO foods, but I see lots of attacks without any scientific reasons to be anti-GMO.

    Simon wrote on June 2nd, 2013
    • Humans have not been modifying genes for hundreds of years. We have been hybridizing and cultivating within the simple boundaries of nature. GMO foods have genes from completely different biological classifications. For example, gmo bt corn has the genes of a bacteria known to be toxic to pests in it. Do you really want to eat it? Studies show that yields are NOT higher per acre and animals fed gmo foods produce tumors and other diseases. Google it.

      Jen wrote on June 2nd, 2013
    • I understood the GMOs to be more resistant to the pesticides, and not to the pests, which would seem to make it ok for more pesticides to be used. I think the fear people are having is based on having even more pesticides in the food supply. I could be wrong, though.

      Brian Kozmo wrote on June 3rd, 2013
    • GMO’s aren’t a bad thing; they are another tool that scientists can use for either good or bad ends. There are a lot of Luddites and anti-corporation types that would dismiss GMO’s even if you could conclusively prove that x GMO food would increase health and yields while reducing its environmental impact. That said, the science that suggests that GMO’s are safe is limited (and requires testing on each iteration of modification, not just GMO’s in general) and Monsanto requires licensing agreements to use their foods, which makes it much more costly for independent research to be done on them. I’m anti-GMO because my ancestors developed a certain degree of tolerance and mutualism with the foods they ate, and the burden of proof is on Monsanto to show that their foods don’t screw with that-a burden I don’t think they’ve come close to meeting.

      Charles wrote on June 3rd, 2013
      • +1

        Amy wrote on June 3rd, 2013
  8. Well not sure about the fact high stress endurance activities cause heart problems. What is the % incidence relative to the regular population?. Studies of Tour de France competitors show they live on average 7 years longer than the average person. And Olympic endurance athletes also live longer than normal – also longer than Olympic strength and sprint athletes. Anecdotes do not make data.

    john wrote on June 2nd, 2013
    • My husband who has always considered himself to be healthy, has never had to have any medication & has no heart problems in his family, has been doing endurance cycling for about 44 years & suddenly out of the blue, he recently found himself with an enlarged heart on the right side & atrial fibrillation, & had to have an electric shock to correct it, just as in that article. He now has to take beta blockers & Fleicanide (sp?). He was devastated, as he had no idea. His best friend (also a keen cyclist) died suddenly of a heart attack. We are positive that he has worked himself too hard & pushed himself too much. He thinks nothing of doing cycle races of 100 miles. Before it happened, he had just achieved his personal best at the age of 58. I think this needs to be more publicised. I think it’s a case of moderate exercise is good for you, but in excess, it is bad for you.

      Christine wrote on June 3rd, 2013
      • Further to my previous comment, the more people in cycling my husband has spoken to, the more he has found that it is a common problem for keen competitive cyclists to get heart problems.

        Christine wrote on June 3rd, 2013
    • Define “average” person. What did the eat? What life did they live? Rich, poor?

      I’m guessing that most Tour de France competitors are of a middle class (or better) socio-economic background. That lifestyle, in and of itself, will increase life expectancy.

      So if a group of “average” people includes those known to be hard on their bodies (extreme poverty, drug users, smokers, etc) is compared to a group that’s thoroughly middle class then, the middle class group will always turn out better. We could pick accountants who sat for most of their lives and they’d probably live a lot longer than a grouping that includes those with known lower life expectancies.

      One study, unfortunately, is also not conclusive evidence. :(

      Amy wrote on June 3rd, 2013
  9. As an indoor engineer, my solution to the work outside problem is gardening and chickens. I am managing a small stock of both meat and egg chickens in a suburban area. It confuses the neighbors a bit, but with paddocking I control odors and it allows me access to humanely raised meat. Lots of outside work, the joy of caring for beautiful creatures that nourish me, and a good reason to go to bed early and get up early.

    Plus, nothing like fresh strawberries each summer morning and a little plot of food I worked for to get me to appreciate my food and eat my veggies. It’s hard to waste what I sweated and cried over.

    Kate wrote on June 2nd, 2013
    • Amen to that Kate! I’d love to grow some chickens in our backyard, but on a 1/3 of an acre and with our 3 dogs freely roaming the backyard, I’m afraid they’d be too stressed out to lay any eggs. Going to be building a greenhouse soon for year-round veggies. Also want to grow some blueberries, blackberries, and maybe some strawberries.

      Gotta wonder how much cheaper food prices would be if EVERYONE had a garden out back…even if they had just an 8’x4′ garden.

      Jacob wrote on June 3rd, 2013
      • People have been increasing the price of my preferred alcoholic beverages in this town since I started buying a lot of them. I guess I should buy less.

        Animanarchy wrote on June 22nd, 2013
  10. I love the idea for that fish mayo! Delicious!

    GiGi wrote on June 2nd, 2013
  11. Art Devany has had a lot to say over the years about chronic endurance training and the heart.

    Moshen wrote on June 2nd, 2013
    • And it isn’t pretty!

      Nocona wrote on June 2nd, 2013
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  13. Roasting whole eggplants (even straight over the flame on the stove) is my favorite way to eat them, too! So juicy! Instead of cheese, I tend to drizzle the cooked eggplant with tahini, fresh garlic, a bit of silan (date honey), zaatar, tomato innards, and whatever else I feel like. I don’t cut the eggplant in half first– it comes out oven juicier if you cut it in half after cooking. Great with some kind of meatball on the side!

    Maya wrote on June 3rd, 2013
  14. Re: Heart problems plaguing top athletes… so many of my fellow 40-something friends are trying to rekindle their 20-something days by pushing themselves to run marathon and triathlon events. I wont be joining them in that approach to the get healthy and feel younger quest.

    Patrick wrote on June 3rd, 2013
    • Yes, it’s a real stink a-roo. :( I have a friend who I’ve “lost” to marathoning. She’s struggled with health issues, many of which I suspect are related to over-training and one of which is unmistakably so. (Torn hip cartilage.)

      But she considers herself healthy and it’s a point of pride that she exercises more than practically anyone she knows. I’ve already warned her that it’s hard on the joints and that came true at the tender age of 36. I’m not looking forward to being right in another decade or two if she continues her pace.

      Amy wrote on June 3rd, 2013
    • I wish short distance sprinting would catch on as a fad.

      Kevin wrote on June 4th, 2013
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  16. The statin love in the NYT article is enough to be pissed about, but why does no one mention that statins limit your ability to make CoQ10 just as much as they limit your ability to make cholesterol, and that mitochondria are chock-full’o CoQ10?

    AllbeefPatty wrote on June 3rd, 2013
  17. That timeline is terrifying. At least butter is making a comeback. We got that going for us!

    Eric R wrote on June 3rd, 2013
  18. I’m so grossed out by the thought of using parasites to help with tolerating gluten. Just DON’T EAT GLUTEN!!! Has our society gotten so used to gluteny foods that we resort to using parasites to help in digestion? The fact that researchers even wanted to do human trails…BARF! SO SO GROSSED OUT! I have dogs and although a different species of hookworm, have seen the effects on their systems; not pretty!

    Andrea D. wrote on June 3rd, 2013
  19. D’oh!
    Why does Homer say that?
    He eats too many doughnuts!

    Animanarchy wrote on June 22nd, 2013

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