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28 Oct

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weekend link loveResearch of the Week

Contrary to what science reporting typically says, a new study finds daily multivitamin use to be slightly protective against cancer in men.

It’s confirmed: meat and eggs from soy-fed chickens contain soy isoflavones. The title of the article – “Soy protein present in egg yolks and chicken tissues” – isn’t quite accurate, but soy isoflavones are often phytoestrogens and thus somewhat concerning.

Boys are reaching puberty younger than ever before, a new study shows, but “it’s unclear why.” Perhaps the phytoestrogens from soy-fed chicken products are involved?

Interesting Blog Posts

Dr. Emily Deans explores whether physically preventing someone from scowling (with Botox) can help with real depression.

The SockDoc has an interesting perspective on doping in sports… and in regular life.

Media, Schmedia

On a diet of “milk, butter, and almonds,” 96-year old Ramjeet Raghav is the world’s oldest new father, will “go on all night” when asked by his wife, and thinks “it’s very important that a husband and wife have sex regularly.” I like this guy.

We “feel alone together,” despite – or, perhaps, because of – constant digital contact. What do you think?

Alternatively, you could always hire someone to slap you every time you began to frivolously check your phone or Facebook account.

Everything Else

Bet you’ve never done a virtual vertical hill climb challenge. Bet you don’t even know what that is. Registration is now closed for Hilloween II, but you can still challenge yourself to a hill climb. And stay tuned for Hilloween III next year.

Eleven top athletes share their favorite meals, some of which are pretty Primal-friendly.

Recipe Corner

Time Capsule

One year ago (October 28 – November 3)

Comment of the Week

If I had to go to all the trouble that Worker Bee goes through when drinking… I’d quit.

- Ha! Maybe that’s the point of it all, Peter.

You want comments? We got comments:

Imagine you’re George Clooney. Take a moment to admire your grooming and wit. Okay, now imagine someone walks up to you and asks, “What’s your name?” You say, “I’m George Clooney.” Or maybe you say, “I’m the Clooninator!” You don’t say “I’m George of George Clooney Sells Movies Blog” and you certainly don’t say, “I’m Clooney Weight Loss Plan”. So while spam is technically meat, it ain’t anywhere near Primal. Please nickname yourself something your friends would call you.

  1. “Alone Together” is a good book and I highly recommend it. The book primarily deals with the potential trend of human attachment to unfeeling robotic surrogates (caretakers, pets, etc.) and the replacement of conventional social interaction with Facebook and text messaging among the younger set. The broader trend seems to be the replacement of human interaction with automation and regimentation which has all kinds of unpleasant follow-on effects. For example: trolling enabled by anonymity, polarizing segregation of society into online interest groups instead of neighborhoods, and the atrophy of basic social skills needed for the workplace and intimate relationships.

    You might even say that the radical social-environment changes of the modern world are a subject for the Primal Blueprint and its cousins to tackle….

    Joe P. wrote on October 28th, 2012
  2. that 96 year old new daddy does not sound like he had lived a life i’d enjoy. he is a life long vegetarian and was celibate till he was 86 when he started he started having sex with a 42 year old. and now he is having to start to raise kids at 96.

    me, i’d rather have a lot of sex with hot 20 year olds and eat meat. then be done raising kids in my 40s.

    chuck wrote on October 28th, 2012
    • I’m with you, Chuck. Kids are enough of a pain in the patoot when you’re 25 or 30 and have a lot of energy. From a woman’s standpoint, I can’t imagine having babies in my 40′s or 50′s, although some women do. Some grandparents raise kids, too, mostly from necessity. You have to admire the commitment if not the life.

      Shary wrote on October 28th, 2012
      • On the other hand, he has the get-out-of-anything excuse of “Not today, Bobby, my oldness is flaring up.”

        Trav wrote on October 28th, 2012
    • I wonder if orgasms aren’t so good for us as they’re hyped up to be, at least for men. You’re going to have to use your bodies reserves to make more sperm!
      I guess the same goes for building muscle though.

      Animanarchy wrote on October 29th, 2012
      • body’s*
        Drink 2L of beer, make sum typos the next morning.. I don’t need to hire anyone to slap me, that comment of the week did a good job of it.

        Animanarchy wrote on October 29th, 2012
        • Though on the plus side I did deactivate my Facebook account this morning.

          Animanarchy wrote on October 29th, 2012
        • Sometimes synchronicity has a … rye sense of humour.

          Animanarchy wrote on October 30th, 2012
  3. I think my productivity might actually go down if she was around to slap me.

    Travis wrote on October 28th, 2012
  4. It would be fantastic if there were some sort of “Soy-Free Seal”. They put soy in EVERYTHING nowadays (seriously, check the ingredients) and I’d guess that this is a huge contributor to many of the bizarre gender-bending and phenomena that have been proven in the U.S.

    So to now read that soy also carries in animals which are fed it now just makes me want to again filter my foods – even my Primal foods – to make sure they’re free of this feminizing substance. But it’s darn hard to know whether livestock and poultry are fed soy.

    Some enterprising man, come up with a “Soy Free Seal”. Please!

    David wrote on October 28th, 2012
    • Maybe there already is one but we just never see it because nothing out there qualifies!

      Mary V. wrote on October 29th, 2012
    • Seals eat fish, and are therefore predator animals, despite having their eyes on the sides of their heads (being sea animals, hunting is less about sight). They are not prey animals, and so you really shouldn’t be eating seals anyhew.

      Also, I wonder how “they” get the seals to eat the soy, as it’s not part of their normal diet? Do they spray the soy with some kind of “Fish-taste Spray”? I wouldn’t put it past “them.” What will they think of next?!

      Jeffrey of Troy wrote on October 29th, 2012
  5. Please tell me what to feed my chickens! We give them leftovers from our kitchen (we eat organic and primal, so that’s ok), but also supplement with organic chicken feed, which contains grains and soy. I’ve been told the chicken need their grain, and that if we stop giving them this, if will be hard for us to know that they get all the nutrients they need. Please help!

    loli wrote on October 28th, 2012
    • Chickens in the wild will preferably eat bugs and nasties along with vegetation and berries. So no, it won’t hurt them.

      Peacemaker wrote on October 28th, 2012
    • Back before chicken feed, it was the kids job to hunt and trap varmits to feed to the chickens for protein, especially in the winter. But yes, chickens do need some kind of grain, supplemented with bugs, meat scraps, etc. One of these days my goal is to grow my own chicken grains, someday… You can buy soy free grain, but it’s too expensive for me.

      Marie wrote on October 28th, 2012
    • Grow whatever beans/legumes do well in your area. I hear cow peas are good fodder for chickens. I use pidgeon peas myself. Then you sprout them in a bucket (like alfalfa in a jar).

      Great for their immune system. You will also find they eat less when the peas are sprouted. They have to eat far more dried grains to get the same amount of nutrients.

      Chris wrote on October 28th, 2012
  6. On the topic of Facebook, I downloaded Facebook Nanny(for google chrome), which only allows me on Facebook when i have a message or notification. I’ve noticed a big productivity boost.

    Jeremy wrote on October 28th, 2012
  7. Wow — how proud that 96 year old guy must be since he apparently can still produce viable sperm — I’m sure his wife and kid will enjoy having him around for the next few years, if they are very lucky. Then they’ll be left without a husband or a father. Real responsible (of both so-called adults in this situation.)

    Diane wrote on October 28th, 2012
    • This is India, where living standards shouldn’t be comapred with what wealthy nations can afford as responsible. They also have a different form of social welfare, where it’s not uncommon for extended families to live together and help raise the children.

      So yes, living in a house with an old person, isn’t strange to the children of India. I’m sure they know the realities much more than we do, sending our aged into care homes and visiting on weekends.

      Chris wrote on October 28th, 2012
      • Word, Chris.

        Trav wrote on October 28th, 2012
  8. Great article on doping…well, on drug taking and the perspective that almost everyone, athletes and non athletes, is enhancing their performance in some way shape or form. I guess this explains best my perspective about the Lance situation, which was always a little more cynical than most. Putting aside the deception and the brand he has cultivated I always presumed everyone on he tour was not clean, and so it was very likely a level playing field and he probably still was the best of the best…. he doesnt deserve the TDF titles as that race is meant to be clean but I see alot of sanctimony on the blogs and wonder where that really comes from. He still came back from a body ravanged by cancer, its still an remarkable achievement. Im not condoning doping/drug taking by any strech, just kinda less outraged by it. Others achieved the same results as EPO, training at altitude, or sleeping in chambers, yet one is banned and one isnt…doesnt make sense to me.

    Lainey wrote on October 28th, 2012
  9. Thanks for the article about soy isoflavones.

    After my pregnancies, I was left with a sensitive thyroid — it swells up and my metabolism slows down when I eat goitregens such as broccoli, cabbage, cauliflower, kale, Brussels sprouts, sweet potatoes, and also SOY. Naturally, I avoid them all as it’s not a pleasant feeling.

    I soon noticed that the same thing would happen with chicken. So much so that I haven’t been able to find a type, not even organic, that won’t strain my thyroid.

    With eggs, however, the type does make a difference as I have free range and/organic eggs every day without any problems. The other kinds of eggs are a problem. (Note: I’m writing from Canada, so our free range might differ from US definitions.) All types of chicken get soy in their feed these days, so maybe the quantity/proportion matters?

    It happens with some other meats as well, but organic beef is always okay thank heavens.

    Thing is, I’ve never mentioned this to anyone because it seemed a bit preposterous. My n=1 experiments isolated the cause but could the soy in feed really still have an effect in the meat?

    It’s nice to see the science behind this effect getting some notice because It might help some of the folks who say going paleo affects their thyroid — there’s a lot of goitrogenic foods in the paleo menu — in addition to the soy in animal feed problem.

    & maybe it will be possible to find some non- soy fed chicken sometime in the future…

    postmodernnomad wrote on October 28th, 2012
  10. The article gives an American source of soy-free chicken… if anyone knows a Canadian source I’d love to hear about it!

    postmodernnomad wrote on October 28th, 2012
  11. Am I the only one who is more impressed with his wife? She´s 52 and has carried 2 children and given birth (which is no mean feat in itself) in the last 2 years.
    THAT´S hardcore. :-)

    Elena wrote on October 29th, 2012
  12. “Alone Together” appears to be yet another rose-tinted glasses comparison of the present to the past. I see these sorts of views all over the place (especially on Facebook ironically enough) and they are rife with logical failings. Who cares what Huckleberry Finn did? He didn’t do it because it was good. He did it because that was his world.

    Every single generation has its adherents to the “kids today” meme, and they are by and large bogus value judgments by people who are taking a seemingly pessimistic view of human social development. For every claim I’ve seen of the pitfalls of this technology, I have been more than able to twist it into a good for human interaction, yet the people I was attempting the discussion with would maintain an emphatic denial of any possibility that these technologies may enhance the lives of those who use them.

    Joe Carbup wrote on October 29th, 2012
    • I would urge everyone to listen to the interview with the author of ‘Alone Together’. It is not some neo-luddite diatribe. It takes a very considered approach to the way technology of today is influencing our relationships, not only with others but with ourselves.

      I tuned into NPR in the middle of the interview and downloaded the podcast when I got home. Dr. Turkle’s insights helped me realize things about myself and how I view technology in my life. That sounds like hyperbole but it isn’t. The interview is approx. 37 minutes. Download it and play it on your smartphone the next time you’re in the car. It may very well change how you look at technology too.

      There is more to her thesis than it may appear on the surface. She doesn’t view it as a generational shift, but a societal shift, a shift we all participate in, even if we don’t participate, if I a may speak for her, so any detractors that might compare it to a ‘kids today’ meme and just ignore her ideas are robbing themselves and anyone they convince to judge by appearance rather than substance.

      Rick wrote on October 29th, 2012
  13. From the doping article: “Asthma, especially exercised induced asthma, is common in athletes who push their adrenal hormones too hard for too long and develop problems with normal bronchial relaxation.”
    I didn’t know that.. interesting though. My mom was diagnosed with asthma at about 50 and her main form of exercise for many years was chronic cardio. (jog jog jog, leg injury, repeat) She also gets sick a lot and eats kind of a SAD diet, lots of grains.

    Animanarchy wrote on October 29th, 2012
  14. 17 out of 1000 cancers in the group taking multivitamins and 18 out of 1000 in the placebo group.
    not worth to link this study, sorry.

    paleozeta wrote on October 29th, 2012
    • I used to take a multivitamin almost daily, sometimes more than one. Once I found out the vitamins are synthetic and the pills are packed with a bunch of synthetic fillers, binders, whatever, they lost their appeal for me. Might as well just eat drywall it seems.

      Animanarchy wrote on October 30th, 2012
  15. Also very highly recommended is Relax Your Way Thin! (Low Carb Lifestyle) by Beverley Hills Hypnosis, which turns out is actually by a fellow named Trevor Scott. That is a very pleasant to listen to hypnosis audio, fully in keeping with a low-carb diet, and available for 9 bucks on Amazon. I reviewed it there a while back, actually, and was satisfied with it after so many others didn’t cover the right material.

    For example, both of Tom Nicoli’s No- and Low-Carb audios recommended (eventually or in moderation) eating a certain amount of bread, rice, pasta, pastries, etc. This is not what I was looking for. That said, I bought several of his non-diet titles, in particular from his Pillow Power series, and am very satisfied. He’s a great hypnotherapist.

    Oh, yes, two more you should check out if this is something you want to try: Jacob Strochatta and Joseph Clough both have free apps for iPhone, iPod touch, and iPad; which allow you to buy titles in-app for only $2.99 each (they may have Android apps too: I haven’t checked).

    Strochatta’s app is called “Free Your Mind Hypnosis”, and it’s by “Human Progress” in the app store.

    Clough’s is called “Free Hypnosis”, and it’s by “Joseph Clough” in the app store.

    I’m partial to Clough’s non-diet-related Acquire Gym Motivation, and his The Perfect Health is awesome too, but unfortunately not his Achieve Weight Loss title for low-carb purposes.

    Strochatta is Danish, and his online website is ridiculously hard to navigate in English, but the app is easy to use. Recommended is Lose weight with this mind changing program as well as the free Stress Relief audio that comes with the app. It’s simply an experience listening to the fellow and not just because of the accent; he comes across, for lack of a better word, as “wise”.

    Christoph Dollis wrote on October 29th, 2012
  16. Finally, Steve G. Jones has a Weight Loss Hypnosis audio that you can get on Amazon for under a dollar by searching for it under that title. It’s pretty good, and unlike the other health titles above, it is designed to be listened to at night in bed as you drift off to sleep.

    So it could easily add “oomph” to any of the above. Assuming your spouse won’t kill you.

    :P

    Christoph Dollis wrote on October 29th, 2012
  17. Regarding the unusually early onset of puberty in boys, the reason could very well be more external than internal. Modern media is disgustingly sex-oriented. Half of ads for anything at all involve sexual implications, or at the very least, extremely attractive women. It’s possible that such high levels of sexual stimuli have resulted in earlier gene activation than what nature intended.

    Tad Wheeler wrote on October 29th, 2012
    • That doesn’t seem likely, considering our ancient ancestors were frequently topless and even had sex in relatively close proximity without much in the way of locked doors.

      But if “extremely attractive women” are the problem, I’m not sure I’m much interested in the solution.

      Christoph Dollis wrote on October 29th, 2012
      • You haven’t disproven Tad’s theory, you’ve just raised the question: what age were Grok’s boys hitting puberty?

        Chris wrote on November 1st, 2012
    • I frequently find the stimuli annoying. Is it really necessary to try to accentuate attractive characteristics in public? No, it is not.
      I’m guilty. When I was a bro workout proponent, I’d wear tight shirts with short sleeves all the time. Now I look back and think I was just being immature.
      I don’t look as “cut” as I once did but if I do again, I’m not going to try to show off unless I think the occasion merits.
      There’s a time and place for many things.

      Animanarchy wrote on October 30th, 2012
  18. I don’t know why my first comment didn’t make it through moderation. An oversight? Because I thought Roger Elliott’s hypnosis audios borrowed a bit from The Primal Blueprint in terms of dietary philosophy [it even used the word "blueprint"]?

    Anyhoo, I recommend HypnosisDownload.com’s Low Carb Diet Lifestyle and Perfect Health audios as well, if anyone wants to give them a try.

    Christoph Dollis wrote on October 29th, 2012
  19. The Pork Chops with Warm Apples was a great recipe! I made it for dinner tonight, using boneless pork chops, and it just melted in your mouth … seriously good! I will definitely make this again. Thanks for the Link, Mark!

    NMCynthia wrote on November 1st, 2012

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