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Serving up health and fitness insights (daily, of course) with a side of irreverence.
15 Jul

Weekend Link Love

weekend link loveBecause ninjas never sat down to type WordPress blogs.

Speaking of ninjas, let Al Kavadlo show you how to do a kip up.

Should we kill animals that kill humans?

A recent study suggests that “dense acellular carbohydrates” (in other words, grains) were found to promote inflammatory intestinal microbiota, as opposed to carbohydrates from “cellular tubers, leaves, and fruits.” Sound familiar to anyone else?

The Human Food Project quizzed a group of 37 microbiologists about their thoughts on diet and gut flora, including what a diet that promotes a healthy microbiome would look like. The results are pleasantly unsurprising.

New research shows that traditionally-shod runners who go barefoot for the first time immediately improve their running economy and adopt a shorter stride length.

All the more reason to support pastured (or at least organic) poultry: antibiotic use in chickens has been linked to bladder infections in humans.

Did you know that the Paleo diet is uncivilized, unhealthy, and untrue? That we’re just all a bunch of savage bloodthirsty heathens? Yeah, apparently it’s true. Seriously, though: a $50 gift certificate to PrimalBlueprint.com to the person who comes up with the best comeback or rebuttal in today’s comment section. The Worker Bees and I will judge. Contest ends at midnight PDT, July 17 – two days from now.

Co-evolution, schmo-evolution; pit bulls are natural born killers. Right?

Recipe Corner

Time Capsule

One year ago (July 15 – July 21)

Comment of the Week

Oh boy, you’re putting your foot in it again, Mark! ;o) *says the grandma who is younger than you and who is also interested in the science of it*

- Yup, I shoulda known, Janet and Estelle. My apologies to all the grandmas out there.

You want comments? We got comments:

Imagine you’re George Clooney. Take a moment to admire your grooming and wit. Okay, now imagine someone walks up to you and asks, “What’s your name?” You say, “I’m George Clooney.” Or maybe you say, “I’m the Clooninator!” You don’t say “I’m George of George Clooney Sells Movies Blog” and you certainly don’t say, “I’m Clooney Weight Loss Plan”. So while spam is technically meat, it ain’t anywhere near Primal. Please nickname yourself something your friends would call you.

  1. Leaving all the bad science and suspicious ulterior motives (someone said this guy has a high-starch “health” food line for sale??), my biggest beef (hah!) with the article was the fact that one its main points essentially boils down to “because, um, ew.” Really, now. You’re a grown man with letters after his name. You’re just embarrassing yourself, as well as insulting the countries and cultures whose culinary canon includes the “icky” parts of the animal, like, oh, osso buco and fois gras and blood pudding and haggis, to name just a very, very few. Personal distaste is not a valid argument. I can’t stand even the smell of bananas, but I’m not going to advocate that everyone else stop eating them too. Just my boyfriend, and then only when he doesn’t have a toothbrush handy.

    Nelly wrote on July 15th, 2012
  2. Dr. Mc Dougal, you are absolutely correct! All of us primal eaters are evil cannibals who are out to devour everyone who is not like us. Please help us get back into the civilized crowed. You know the one that chugs down Pepsi products and devours junk food. The same group that overlooks or turns a blind eye to the fact that the companies that make their “food” use fetus organs in their taste testing procedures?? Now who are you calling cannibals!!!

    pam wrote on July 15th, 2012
    • “companies that make their “food” use fetus organs in their taste testing procedures??”

      I’m sorry…what?

      mars wrote on July 15th, 2012
  3. What do you expect from a group whose brains are shrinking at the rate of 1% per year, according to the latest studies.

    Noel wrote on July 15th, 2012
    • can you document that? no seriously – do you have a reference – i would love to have that in my arsenal…

      ravi wrote on July 15th, 2012
  4. I’m always surprised at the hatred that comes out of vegetarians towards meat eaters. It’s like a religion of true-believers. He must suffer from a bacon deficit. If I ate his food products I’d be hungry & fat.

    Linda wrote on July 15th, 2012
  5. Here’s my comeback:

    What can I say? You can’t save people, so I won’t even try. I could attempt a rebuttal, but there’d be no convincing you in the face of such strong denial. Nevertheless, the truth will out, as they say. What I can tell you is that I spent the last 10 years as a vegetarian—the wholesome kind, who cooked all his meals from scratch, everything unrefined and unprocessed—and not until just recently did I ever feel alive. To each his own, though, and you can eat however you want, and so will I.

    Erik wrote on July 15th, 2012
  6. Not sure if many others noticed, but the author cites a study as evidence that the Inuits (Alaskan natives) get heart disease due to their high-protein diets. I was very eager to check the study because I have always read the opposite. And low and behold! The study concludes “High-carbohydrate diets, particularly in the form of high-glycemic index carbohydrate, have the ability to directly induce atherosclerosis.” So he quotes a study that directly contradicts his statements. That’s just sad!

    Allison wrote on July 15th, 2012
    • I’m glad I’m not the only one who noticed this. The traditional Inuit diet (i.e. before flour and sugar were introduced through trade, and started causing disease, surprise surprise) has been shown time and again to be excellent for health, vitality and longetivity in some of the harshest living conditions on Earth.

      How many sheeple would click the link to investigate further, though?

      I also noticed he provided no source for his claim that hunter-gatherer societies subsisting on starches are “free of these diseases”. I call shenannigans!

      Clare wrote on July 15th, 2012
      • *Runs to shed to find broom*

        Go_Hard wrote on July 15th, 2012
  7. Dear McD,
    So proliferating the human population beyond belief thanks to the “agricultural revolution” is environmentally friendly ? Please tell me how that has led to less CO2 emissions.

    Ah well, perhaps your method is what I have been waiting for to cure my Celiacs disease… “the gluten solution” ! I’ll be your test subject. The experiment is simple: You feed me grains, then sit in an enclosed space with me for a while. I guarantee you’ll change your mind.

    PS .. 1 word: Phytoestrogens. Not exactly what I look for in a man.

    Olivia wrote on July 15th, 2012
  8. Perhaps they could try dropping propaganda leaflets from airplanes :-)

    Groktimus Primal wrote on July 15th, 2012
  9. That article was very hard to digest.

    Beth wrote on July 15th, 2012
  10. I have to apologize, but I cannot write a rebuttal, because halfway through McDougall’s article I started craving some meat and had to head to the BBQ, but 2 points stood out:
    1) if the Neanderthal ate all those “starch grains”, where are they now?

    2) the whole human brain-eating thing made me realize that zombies have been around 4ever!

    Cody wrote on July 15th, 2012
  11. Not much to see there on the Forks Over Knives. Just someone trying to make some money by calling their way the ‘only’ way.

    *shrug*

    I assume pretty much all ways work to get overweight people more healthier as long as they keep out the sugar. Once that is realized, it just comes down to a person’s preferences.

    JMoss wrote on July 15th, 2012
  12. Paleo uncivilized? So is a lack of type 2 diabetes, hypertension, arterial plaque, and cancer! (Seriously – Those are the diseases of Civilization. My uncivilized Paleo diet is fixing or preventing the lot of them in me even as we speak).

    Former high BP type 2 diabetic who survived 3 major strokes brought on by the metabolic syndrome I developed enjoying the industrial diet prescribed by the USDA. Probably owe my current thriving condition to Art, Mark, Rob, and the rest of those caveman pushing lunatics. Thanks, for being crazy enough to spout this heretical primal/paleo gospel.

    Brahnamin wrote on July 15th, 2012
  13. Rebuttal:

    …”and that’s why I am healthier then you.”

    Rich wrote on July 15th, 2012
  14. Honestly? Why are we defending Paleo when Cordain supports diet soda and lean meats, and won’t recognize that pastured dairy kind of rocks (if you don’t have issues digesting it)? But okay, sure.

    “Bone marrow or brains of animals were both favorites of pre-civilization hunter-gathers. (p 27) For most of us the thought of eating bone marrow and brains is repulsive.”

    I don’t see how your repulsion is relevant. Your societally-ingrained squeamishness is not an argument against nutritious food (that isn’t actually unpleasant to eat, unless you’ve been raised to think it’s gross).

    “No mention is made by Paleo experts about the frequent and habitual practices of nutritional cannibalism by hunter-gather societies. (Nutritional cannibalism refers to the consumption of human flesh for its taste or nutritional value.)”

    This is wrong for moral reasons, not health ones. (Though prion diseases such as kuru are ALSO a risk, they’re not the biggest reason not to practice cannibalism.) Note that you condemn cannibals, but laud Alexander the Great. Oh, and those Roman soldiers were spreading daisies and happiness everywhere they went, right?

    “By nature, the Paleo Diet is based on artery-clogging saturated fats and cholesterol, and bone-damaging, acidic proteins from animal foods.”

    Oooh, terrible stuff. I’ll tell the cavities eating a normal diet gave me that they’re wrong to disappear! I’m eating animal protein! I’ll warn my teeth to stop getting better. That way I can go back to having dentists drill in them, right?

    Also, saturated fat. Not artery-clogging. Yummy, though! :)

    “For most people the dietary ceiling for protein is 200 to 300 grams a day or about 30 to 40 percent of the normal daily calorie intake.”

    200-300 grams of protein per day would be 800-1400 calories; if that’s thirty to forty percent of your normal caloric intake, you’re eating anywhere between 1800 and 4200 calories per day. SOUNDS A BIT HIGH THERE, but of course if you’re eating addictive, MSG-laced, sugary crap, it might not be too hard.

    “There have been only a few small isolated populations of primitive people, such as the Arctic Eskimos, living at the extremes of the environment, who have eaten otherwise.”

    Agreed, especially since the Maasai live in an extreme environment and not, say, the supposed birthplace of humanity.

    “Civilizations Could Not Have Thrived on the Paleo Diet”

    Alas! O Civilization! What would we do without thee? I cannot bear to live without sexism, osteoporosis and tooth decay! Oh! Banish the thought!

    “Dr. Cordain finishes his 2011 revision of his national best-selling book The Paleo Diet by warning, “Without them (starches, like wheat, rice, corn, and potatoes), the world could probably support one-tenth or less of our present population…” (p 215)”

    Egads! Live in smaller groups that more closely approximate the population density of hunter-gatherers? Not have enough people for huge, always-lit cities? Terrible!

    (Seriously, how is this one a DOWNSIDE??)

    “Choose 10 close friends and family members. Which nine should die so that the Paleo people can have their uncivilized way?”

    I’m sorry, a hilarious and sarcastic response is not merited. No response is actually merited here. However, I will make one nonetheless.

    1. This kind of rhetoric is designed to halt debate by framing the paleos as MURDERERS!!!!!eleventyone! It’s phrased in such a way as to deliberately make people stop thinking critically. Have I failed to make any appeals to critical thinking myself? Yes, but that’s because this piece doesn’t merit a serious response and I was instructed to write “the best comeback or rebuttal”.

    2. THAT’S NOT HOW POPULATION SHRINKAGE WORKS. Or at least, that’s not how it SHOULD work. The world’s overpopulated to begin with and honestly we were kind of hoping lower (sub-replacement) birthrates could shrink population over a few generations, which is probably (somewhat unfortunately) about how long it would take to get other people to eat paleo.

    SO, in closing, a couple of general comments: it doesn’t truly matter how the hunter-gatherers ate. It’s not THEIR good health that makes me happy with the changes I’ve made. It’s mine.

    Quiet Reader wrote on July 15th, 2012
  15. She’s technically right. Being in the presence of one of us causes vegans to shrivel up and die, which is the destruction of human health, after a fashion.

    Alex Good wrote on July 15th, 2012
  16. I’m sorry but I am not going to waste my time with this article. I skimmed through it and had enough right away.

    I love my meat but this back and forth is not helping improve the health of the world.

    Instead, ask the vegans and vegetarians countless questions. Show them that you are listening when in the back of your mind you are 100% certain that animal foods are completely necessary for long-term optimal health.

    Don’t fight against them. Fight with them. At least they eat real food! Once they add back in animal foods then there health will thrive. We just need to ask them questions as to why they avoid animal foods.

    If you do this then many more vegans and vegetarians will be open to trying new ways.

    We tend to enjoy being a rebel so they will always fight if you want to fight.

    I’m done with fighting.

    Primal Toad wrote on July 15th, 2012
    • I LOVE asking my vegan friends questions! One in particular likes to keep up on the research into phytochemicals and other interesting compounds in plant foods. Delicious!

      Kristina wrote on July 15th, 2012
  17. Dear Forks Over Knives,

    I’m a vegetarian, and I’m on their side. This should clue you in that your arguments are dumb.

    Step away from the keyboard, sit down, and have a nice cup of tea. I’ll even let you taint it with soy milk, as long as you promise not to enjoy it.

    Hugs and kale,

    Nel

    Peronel wrote on July 15th, 2012
  18. Look out blueberries, spinach, and avocados. There’s a new set of super foods in town. They are wheat, soybeans, and russet potatoes. Sporting impressive nutritional profiles such as iron*, virtually no FAT soluble vitamins, plenty of B vitamins to support energy for your yoga class, enough Zinc for testosterone levels to rival that of a healthy 86 year old, and enough B12 for….Uh, your body can recycle B12 for up to 7 years I heard.

    *Test results indicate that these five commonly eaten legumes are all poor sources of dietary iron: soybeans, split peas, mung beans, black beans, and lentils.

    Authors Lynch SR, et al.
    Journal Am J Clin Nutr. 1984 Jul;40(1):42-7.

    Chris Cox wrote on July 15th, 2012
    • As a personal anecdote, a relatively healthy person can probably get enough iron from legumes. I have been anemic most of my life. I’ve solved that recently by eating offal once a week, but as a poor college student several years ago, my iron count went way up when I ate lots of legumes. I was a pretty sick person before I was finally diagnosed with Celiac, so if I could absorb so much iron from legumes, an actual healthy person might thrive on them.

      Marisa wrote on July 15th, 2012
  19. I for one am glad to follow a diet plan that allows for the occasional cannabilistic spree. I’ve grown accustomed to the brains and marrow of young children (mostly 8-12 yr olds) but am looking forward to trying fresh baby.

    Freaking ridiculous.

    Gavin M. wrote on July 15th, 2012
  20. Reply: Ok I’ll buy, I am unhealthy. Before I admit defeat would you care for a foot race, push-up contest, pull-up contest, body fat % calculation, blood test, or wrestling match?

    Because if eating organic meat and veggies cooked in coconut oil is uncivilized, I don’t want to be a citizen of wherever you’re from!

    Thank you :-)

    Murdock wrote on July 15th, 2012
  21. Rebuttal to FOK garbage:

    Evolution and our physiology don’t care about your opinion.

    Karen P. wrote on July 15th, 2012
  22. I’ve been paleo 2 years and I didn’t know we got to eat human too. Does U.S Wellness Meats carry that or am I going to have to go to the Thai Grocery again?

    huntergirlhayden wrote on July 15th, 2012
    • Haha! Love this! ^

      Allison wrote on July 15th, 2012
  23. Come over here and say that… if you have the energy

    Ben wrote on July 15th, 2012
  24. Dr. McDougall is on a mighty high horse for someone with so much skin in the game. With all due respect, of course. I don’t mean to be nasty or to encroach upon a person’s fundamental beliefs regarding nutrition, as I myself have a near-religious, utopian cult mentality surrounding my personal diet preference (Primal, because it works for me! Finally!). However, I have difficulty taking advice about the health of eating meat from someone who has a major line of shelf-stable vegan quick foods that, although made in California in my current town, were readily available all the way in Montana to contribute to my whole grain, health-food, ovo vegetarian, 30 lb. weight gain, leaky gut, insulin resistance, and PCOS. Thank you vegetarianism, after 6 years total you’ve given me a lifetime of damage to repair. That’s quite a record. I will never go back.

    Ms. Zing wrote on July 15th, 2012
  25. Re: Dr. McDougal

    I skimmed the article; it was ridiculous. The commentors who support him are basically saying, “They’re doctors, so they’re right.” That’s rank authoritarianism.

    In science, the only authority is evidence.

    His statements about ketosis being an illness and red meat and other animal food causing disease identify him as a liar. The truth is widely available; not opinion, but the documentation of the evidence which proves his statements false. He is neither mistaken nor confused; he is lying.

    Jeffrey of Troy wrote on July 15th, 2012
    • its only the very fact of his being a doctor that gives him any credibility whatsoever – not to me for sure, but to veg-head sheeple, clearly authority is both scary and sacred.

      sadly, i can no longer garner virtually any respect for any aspect of modern medicine save it’s rather impressive technical abilities and successes in emergency procedures.

      ravi wrote on July 15th, 2012
  26. We don’t eat grain-fed beef and pork because they are fat, unhealthy, and pumped up with antibiotics. We’re not going to start eating the grain-fed humans for the same reason: they are fat, unhealthy, and pumped up with antibiotics.

    As for all you other primal eaters, however, watch out. I’m coming after you for your cage free tender deliciousness. I hope you havn’t been skipping your sprint days because I am fast as hell.

    Don’t worry Dr. McDougall, because you were right about eating humans like you…ick.

    Mark wrote on July 15th, 2012
    • *haven’t

      Mark wrote on July 15th, 2012
    • Hilarious. I almost died laughing, and then I became really concerned you would catch me. Guess it’s time to run like being chased. Haha

      Ms. Zing wrote on July 15th, 2012
  27. To be honest, some of the talk about eating half a dozen eggyolks with a generous portion of bacon for breakfast does sound alarming. Then again, there are vegans who try to live on beans and rice and TVP. For just about anyone, colorful veggies are a big part of a balanced diet.

    For the organ meats, of course a vegetarian agenda site is not going to wrap their minds around it. Our meat-heavy culture can barely tolerate the thought of eating the parts that still look like animal. I wonder how they’d react if we told them that ideally a modern caveman should be able to sit in their backyard with an urban foraging guide and munch on bits of their lawn?

    He’s got a point about the environmental impact. Though about the wild game, it’s not required, but probably part of our duty to eat the local pest species.

    Kelekona wrote on July 15th, 2012
  28. Aside from the more ridiculous parts of the article (cannibalism & sexism are related to a primal diet? Seriously?) what struck me was that the Dr. McDougal really doesn’t understand what a primal diet is all about. I get the impression that he thinks it’s all about scarfing down as much meat as possible and little else.

    Anyone who has ever adopted a primal diet (for real) would probably say that they eat more high quality organic vegetables than ever before. It’s not *only* about the meat- though that is a big part of the diet. It’s about choosing quality, sustainable local products whenever possible. It’s about sustaining the body with high quality nutrients that are derived from natural sources.

    I have a genetic condition that was tearing my body apart when I followed the conventional wisdom path (like the one FOK promotes). Going primal has literally saved me from nonstop pain and I’ll never follow the CW path again.

    sqt wrote on July 15th, 2012
  29. Much wit has been put forth about the “good” Dr’s poorly researched and hysterically written article, so I will add just my two cents (instead of the several dollars I have to say about things like this):

    - Him talking about organ meat was just like listening to a child saying brussle sprouts are gross. I lol’d.

    - Society and modern civilisation aren’t actually that great.
    Sure, we’ve got the interwebz, dubstep, and carbon fibre mountain bikes, but the Australian Aboriginals lived the true hunter-gatherer lifestyle until the English showed up, and have a rich, diverse and immeasurably long cultural history. Just because they didn’t build buildings, write stuff down or plant seeds doesn’t make their culture less ‘civilised’ than ours, and Dr Whatsisface is being extremely racist by suggesting that agricultural civilisations are better.
    Honestly, what good is all this progress we made as a species if we’re going to end up destroying our bodies (by eating that for which we were not designed – I am not a cow!!), our planet (through overpopulation, pollution of big business and farming it into nothing), and our innate curiosity (by refusing to be open to new ideas)?

    Screw that, I’ll be a meat-eating, sex-having, life-loving, sexy cavewoman any day.

    Also, I dare Dr Conventional Wisdom to try and qualify for the Crossfit Games Masters, to put his starchy money where his close-minded mouth is. Those unbelievable athletes would prove an object lesson in empirical evidence.

    Clare wrote on July 15th, 2012
  30. John McDougall writes ‘Every person that Paleo gurus convince to follow an animal food-based diet brings us one more step closer to the end of the world, as we know it.’ I say the sooner that happens, the better. The world as we know it is full of obese, sick, unhappy people stuck in the vicious CW cycle. The more people that go paleo / primal, the healthier and happier the world will be. And I agree with sqt – McDougal has no idea of what a real paleo lifestyle is about. I’d challenge him to try it for a month but I could tell from his article that he’d be too much of a precious princess because, to him, ‘the thought of eating bone marrow and brains is repulsive.’

    Kitty wrote on July 15th, 2012
  31. I think the most appropriate response to the article is silence. It’s doing exactly what it claims about paleo — repeating lies in the hopes of being believed.

    I recently read “Empire of the Summer Moon” about the rise and fall of the Comanches. What struck me while I was reading it (among other things) was that the Comanche diet consisted entirely of Buffalo (fresh or dried) and that the Comanches would only eat vegetables (mostly tubers) if Buffalo wasn’t available and they faced starvation. Yet I never heard of obese Comanches falling off of their horses suffering from heart attacks. It’s people on the SAD who do that sort of thing.

    epicurus wrote on July 15th, 2012
  32. “If You Repeat a Lie Often Enough, It becomes the Truth”

    Yeah, well they should know.

    Tyson wrote on July 15th, 2012
  33. I tried to write a rebuttal that was in the style and tone of his article, but I just can’t do it. I am just too open to the possibility that other viewpoints on diet may have benefit; from what I’ve read, he does not in the least.

    Nutrition in the human body is enormously complex. We don’t even know the majority of variables in the diet/health equation, much less know how to properly tweak them. While I feel infinitely better on a Primal diet than a SAD diet, I am very open to the possibilities that his diet would have benefits too. Maybe it is the similarities between them (removal of bad oils, sugar, processed foods, etc.) that are the biggest contributors to overall human health rather than ceasing animal consumption to avoid leeching of bones or ceasing grain consumption to avoid phytic acid.

    Now. That being said, you will NOT see me ditching Primal and trying his diet. There is NO way you’re takin my bacon!

    Mike wrote on July 15th, 2012
  34. My rebuttal:

    Dear Dr. McDougall,

    There are many things I could say in reply to your recent article, but I’m afraid I don’t have the time — the baby will be waking up from his nap soon. My main point of contention is your assertion that a low-fat starch-based diet is the healthiest diet we can eat.

    I adopted a low-fat vegetarian (nearly vegan) diet in my teens. 15 years later, when I had married and was ready to start my family, I discovered I was infertile. My husband and I tried for two years before seeking help from fertility specialists, who offered me drugs and invasive procedures with low odds of success (10%).

    Out of desperation, I looked to alternative medicine. My practitioner instructed me to change my diet to a high-fat whole food diet, very similar to Paleo. A few months later, I got pregnant — no doctors, no drugs, no test tubes. Just fat, meat, and sex. After my son was born, I transitioned to a fully Paleo diet. We had no difficulty when we were ready for another baby — even at the obstetrically advanced age of 35, I was pregnant again after one month.

    Now, you say that this low-fat starch-based diet is best. And I’m sorry, sir, but I have two beautiful children who prove otherwise.

    em wrote on July 15th, 2012
    • (I guess if I’m going to seriously throw my hat in the ring here, I should leave my current email address.)

      em wrote on July 15th, 2012
  35. It’s a sales pitch!!! Hahaha, and a bad one. I like how he linked to the “Blue Zones” peice and in the very first sentence after the introduction they said ” The secret to longevity has less to do with diet—or even exercise—and more to do with the social and physical environment in which people live.” …. I don’t like this guy lol

    Draz wrote on July 15th, 2012
  36. Ok I have one question for the venerable Dr. McDougall. If the cow farts causes global warming and the heat will kill all the plants you say are the foods of choice for a healthy life. Out of our two groups who still has a steady source of food. Question two, If diabetes is a failure to process carbohydrates(sugars) how did that disease come to be but by eating starchy foods and grains. A final statement. Before we humans settled down into villages we were a nomadic people. We followed our food from area to area as it looked for its food. WE ate the seasonal foods in the area that our food moved too. You need not look to the millions of years ago, and guess at what humans did for food, come to the near past like 300 to 400 years ago and study what the American Indians did they moved with the elk, deer, bison, moose what did their diets MOSTLY consist of……………..ANSWER they were in the People Eating Tasty Animals movement.

    EricH wrote on July 15th, 2012
  37. For an article that tries to claim the Paleo diet is unhealthy, it has very little content relating to health and does a very poor job of explaining how the Paleo diet is unhealthy

    “By nature, the Paleo Diet is based on artery-clogging saturated fats and cholesterol, and bone-damaging, acidic proteins from animal foods. Respected researchers find that those modern-day hunter-gather populations who base their diets on meat, such as the Inuits (Eskimos), suffer from heart disease and other forms of atherosclerosis, and those modern-day hunter-gathers who base their diets on plant foods (starches) are free of these diseases. Osteoporosis, from their high animal food-based diets, is also epidemic among meat and fish consuming hunter-gathers, specifically the Inuits.”

    The lipid peroxidation of PUFA are a key part of the atherosclerotic process. More dietary PUFA, more PUFA in LDL, more oxidised LDL. High SFA or MUFA diets have less oxidised LDL than high PUFA diets. SFA is not associated with cardiovascular disease. SFA is negatively associated with atherosclerosis, while PUFA and carbohydrate is positively associated with atherosclerosis. SFA protects against oxidative stress in fatty liver disease (a much better predictor of cardiovascular disease)

    http://thepaleopremise.blogspot.com.au/2011/12/dietary-guidelines-for-australians-2011.html

    An alkaline diet doesn’t protect against osteoporosis. Vitamin K2 supplementation reduces fracture rates by roughly 60-80%. Paleo diets are rich in K2 while low fat veg*n diets are probably deficient in it. These high results suggest most people get insufficient K2 from their low animal fat diet. Osteoporosis can also be a result of chronic inflammation and Paleo diets are anti-inflammatory compared with Mediterranean diets (which are similar to low fat veg*n)

    http://thepaleopremise.blogspot.com.au/2012/04/osteoporosis.html

    Many of the nutrients to support mitochondrial function are found mostly in meats. (B vitamins, CoQ10, carnitine, carnosine, creatine, taurine, zinc, selenium and heme)

    http://thepaleopremise.blogspot.com.au/2012/01/mitochondrial-dysfunction.html

    “The original Atkins Diet is the ultimate in low-carb eating. This diet works by starving the human body of carbohydrates in order to induce a state of illness (ketosis), which can result in weight loss. People become too sick to eat too much.”

    Ketosis isn’t a state of illness, it is likely a metabolic adaptation to food scarcity. Ketosis can be used therapeutically to increase mitochondrial biogenesis. A reason people mat eat less on ketosis is because the mitochondrial biogenesis improves mitochondrial function overall, which decreases ER stress, decreasing PTP1B and leptin resistance.

    http://thepaleopremise.blogspot.com.au/2012/02/obesity-symptom-of-underlying-pathology.html#Mechanisms_of_Leptin_Resistance

    Steven wrote on July 15th, 2012
  38. It is scary to know that innocent looking chicken cutlet is linked to bladder infections. Does anybody knows what can be alternatives to organic chicken meat for those who are on a budget? Cause i believe that organic chickens are rather expensive!

    Harry wrote on July 15th, 2012
    • Raise your own…?

      em wrote on July 15th, 2012
    • If you still want chicken, you could go for the cheaper dark meat, or buy bone-in whole chickens instead of just breasts or just cutlets. By buying the whole chicken you pay less per pound, and while some of that is due to bones and offal, you get more out of it, I think. You save a bit of energy roasting them two at a time. The breasts are great sliced by themselves, on salads, and in soups. I use the dark meat to make a HUGE pot of chicken curry whenever I roast them. It all freezes well, and if you save the bones you can make stock. I saved the carcasses from four small roasters and made stock this weekend. I have 12 cups of perfect chicken stock in the freezer (and about 6 more in the fridge for this week)! Since you’d be buying organic, you could even save certain of the organs to be cooked later too (I’m not keen on eating conventionally produced livers, but that’s just me.)

      I’m not sure what another alternative would be except to get more red meat. Wild-caught fish is expensive, too, and turkey probably has the same issues as the antibiotic chicken.

      Kristina wrote on July 15th, 2012
  39. Dear John McDougall,

    You know what’s really uncivilized? Your untrue article, littered with your unhealthy bias.
    For someone who doesn’t like to eat meat, you seem to really enjoy having your own foot in your mouth.
    I suggest a nice Burgundy to go with it. Sort of the boeuf bourguignon of foot.
    Besides, you probably need all the resveratrol and flavonoids you can get. Anything to compensate for the lack of (delicious) health benefits you’d receive from eating what nature bred us to eat: MEAT!

    Is it just me, or does lack of Bacon seem to make people angry and moody?

    Brandon wrote on July 15th, 2012
  40. As for those people at FOK…
    First one to the grave wins?

    Ann wrote on July 15th, 2012

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