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13 Jun

Weekend Link Love

If you’re trying to introduce your friends to the concept of Primal living or controlling your own gene expression, my recent TV news interview might do the trick.

Bottled water… I swear our children will look back on the bottled water craze and compare it to the 1950’s logic of children hiding under desks for nuclear bomb drills. This bottled water video just about sums it up.

The Weston A. Price Foundation gets bloody. Specifically, they compare live blood tests of people eating WAPF diet (low sugar, lots of healthy fat) to blood tests of people eating the Standard American Diet. Read the results.

You’ve seen base jumping, but have you ever seen base jumping this wet?

At root, we’re still hunters.” Spencer Wells telling it like it is on the other side of the pond.

And finally, does it protect from both UVA and UVB?

Recipe Corner

Time Capsule

One year ago (June 6 – 12)

  • How to Tell Friends About the Primal Lifestyle – Not sure what to say to folks who give you a funny look when they see you slamming down fatty foods? This post includes a printout, an actual PDF file you can print and hand them, introducing them to the world of the modern Grok.
  • Primal Blueprint Success Story: More Like Grok – Sterling Purdy is one of the original Grok stars. He has come a long way way in a year – which you can read about on his own blog, Sterling Advice. This post is his original, published success story.

Comment of the Week

I just rode a Sportive – 81 miles, and I rode hard, 6,000 ft climbing and clocked 4:24 (average heart rate 80-85% of max) – around 10 g of carb from raw fruit/nut bars an hour with water and electrolyte salts … the longer you train low carb the more efficient your body becomes. And breakfast was eggs and bacon with some full fat Greek yog and berries with a teaspoon of clear honey :-) … carb loading – who needs it!…

Kelda on Dear Mark: The Low Carb Flu

You want comments? We got comments:

Imagine you’re George Clooney. Take a moment to admire your grooming and wit. Okay, now imagine someone walks up to you and asks, “What’s your name?” You say, “I’m George Clooney.” Or maybe you say, “I’m the Clooninator!” You don’t say “I’m George of George Clooney Sells Movies Blog” and you certainly don’t say, “I’m Clooney Weight Loss Plan”. So while spam is technically meat, it ain’t anywhere near Primal. Please nickname yourself something your friends would call you.

  1. Great interview!

    I didn’t read the details but those differences in those live blood tests were impressive and scary at the same time.

    Chris Sturdy wrote on June 13th, 2010
  2. “live blood tests”?

    Haggus wrote on June 13th, 2010
  3. Weston-Price article was very interestng. always good to have references like that in my “arsenal”. As always, thank you for doing the leg work for us!

    peggy wrote on June 13th, 2010
  4. My college, The university of Tennessee, is actually considering banning water bottle sales campus wide and giving each student a reusable bottle to use at any of the various purified “refill” stations, which I find to be awesome.

    Clayton wrote on June 13th, 2010
    • That is EXTREMELY awesome.

      Holly wrote on June 14th, 2010
  5. Coconut flour pizza crust looks pretty close to the real thing.

    Janet wrote on June 13th, 2010
  6. The WAPF study is puzzling. Clotting factors and platelets are “acute phase reactants” ie., indirect measures of inflammation. A test such as C-reactive protein (CRP) is more direct and much less expensive than a “live blood test.” Also, more established testing methods such as CRP tend to have better clinical correlations. The live blood test results are “visually compelling,” but do they actually mean anything clinically? If they wanted to measure inflammation, why not just use CRP? They could have had many subjects (rather than a paltry 14) and had more significant results.

    Ed wrote on June 13th, 2010
  7. That video about bottled water is terrible. It’s just a typical example of leftism blaming capitalism and greed for cultural and political problems it created in the first place.

    First of all, it’s true that the soft drink companies preempted a drop in sales by diversifying into bottled water, but that begs the question: why were soft drinks so profitable earlier on? Even if you buy that there too they “manufactured consent” – which is just a Noam Chomsky anti-concept, by the way – why did they do it? Why, over the last three or four decades, has the industrial might of this country been shifted away from the production of the basic necessities of modern civilization and towards the production of superfluous luxuries? The answer: leftism. Or, more specifically, the artificial increase in the price of labor brought about by leftists in this country empowering unions as well as the artificial decrease in the the price of labor in China and India brought about by leftists in those countries empowering themselves. Being a big business, making a product that people actually need (and then come to want, not the other way around) is literally illegal in the US today. Oh, and let’s not forget about HFCS. Agricultural subsidies were put in place because – you guessed it, leftists – considered remaining a farmer a basic human right. They’re being abused by big businesses? Nonsense. They’re simply being carried to their logical conclusion.

    Oh, and then there’s the cultural issue as to why bottled water became so popular. Again, leftists were the cause. As they are now doing with global warming, without bothering to wait for all of the evidence to come in, and responding to their deeply-rooted need to be regarded as cultured and wise (instead of just santimonious boobs who sling half-baked ideas any chance they can get in order to cover up an inferiority complex), they marched right in, pronounced city water as polluted and average Americans as healh unconscious nit wits, and blindly urged the “grass roots” to find a solution. Lacking anything else to latch on to in order to feel good about themselves with, anybody who used a comparative standard of self-esteem (ie: a leftist) ate it up. Yes, most Americans are leftists to some degree or another.

    “But this isn’t what we meant!” is now what the more committed have the audacity to say. They never meant anything. They don’t think things through. They simply see a problem, treat all of their underlying statist, collectivist, altruist assumptions as obviously true, and then make hip little videos demanding even more government intrusion into the lives of private citizens and the workings of the “free market.”

    Safe, clean drinking water is not a basic human right. Whether out of a bottle or out of the tap, it is the product of someone else’s time, effort, and thought. We would have never had this “problem” in the first place if leftists hadn’t also regarded a “liveable wage”, clean wilderness which few pollution “victims” will never visit, or paying a farmer to grow things that people don’t want because leftists stand for the “working man” – all of these are simply examples of leftism’s obsessive hatred of freedom and capitalism and it’s blind, unthinking love for out-of-context minutae and government.

    Grant wrote on June 13th, 2010
    • I think you might have some good points here, Grant, but the language is too inflammatory and vague to let me really grasp them.

      Can you maybe be a little more concrete, i.e. with examples and references, to illustrate your points, instead of relying on catch-phrases?

      Holly wrote on June 14th, 2010
    • Drinking bottled water has nothing to do with political leanings. Corporations that create products we don’t need are supported whole-heartedly by the right-wing because they are the foundation of our consumer-based capitalist society. Without “leftism” stepping in to counteract the capitalism juggernaut, we would still have slavery, child labor, 16 hour workdays, extremely dangerous working conditions and unchecked pollution of the environment, amongst other unpleasantries. Unfettered capitalism creates freedom only for the very few, especially in a society where greed is encouraged, like ours. Have a look at hunter-gatherer societies; there is no way HG groups could survive with a “me-only” libertarian attitude. They had to share resources freely amongst members of the group. Dirty socialists! ;-)

      kcurtain wrote on June 15th, 2010
  8. Great interview on CBS! congrats on being on there celeb. I really like the link from the archives about how to talk to your friends

    Katherine wrote on June 13th, 2010
  9. Great comment, Grant. I use bottled
    water cause it is convenient, period.
    And usually you can taste the clorine in the tap water (we in Arlington,
    Texas have the highest rated tap water
    in the country)

    Gary Rollwage wrote on June 13th, 2010
  10. Nooooooooooo Not on my fast day! :P

    Chris wrote on June 13th, 2010
  11. I think the blood test research would have been a lot more interesting if they had also tested vegetarians or vegans. The WAPF approach isn’t just anti-SAD; it’s also anti-vegetarian, and as such, they should have included vegetarians in their study.

    Alex wrote on June 13th, 2010
  12. Nice comment, Grant. My primal lifestyle choice is partly politically motivated. My libertarian leanings have long encouraged me to opt-out of the systems that Conventional Wisdom says I must participate in.

    It seems like a small thing but bottled water is such a BS industry and not buying into it is a small form of protest against the larger machine. That being said, a market for it does exist, and if people want to waste their money buying an unnecessary product, well, it’s their money to throw away.

    As far as the chlorine issue goes, it is a problem in tap water for me and mine. In fact, I find myself very sensitive even to low levels of chlorine in the water. I just filter tap water to remove the chlorine taste and keep a few gallon jugs of filtered in the fridge. It costs a lot less to buy a new filter cartridge every few months than to buy bottled.

    Madbiker wrote on June 13th, 2010
  13. The bottled water debate has been a big point of contention to me, as I was a big proponent of tap water drinking and ending the waste of shipping water across the world for us to drink while shipping the waste again to be “recycled.”

    Then much in the same way I learned about the Primal/Paleo diet vs. conventional wisdom I realized that there’s a ton of stuff in tap water that is as bad as eating factory farmed meat vs. organic pastured meat. Most municipal tap water contains significant amounts of chlorine to prevent bacterial growth, but what effect does willingly ingesting large quantities of chlorine have on our bodies. In the same way I’m by no means one of those conspiracy theorists but the more I learn about fluoride the less I want that additive in my body. Fluoride (as added to many city tap water systems) is most sourced as hexafluorosilicic acid, a rather toxic byproduct of phosphate fertilizer production. By itself it’s a toxic waste product but added to the water system it’s a beneficial additive? Secondly the human body has no requirement for fluoride and in large doses it can be terrible for the bones (dental and skeletal fluorosis).

    So not to rant but like many other things in our modern society things are much more complicated than meets the eye (as shown in that youtube video). Is tap water really as safe as one may think and is bottled water a wasteful evil? I think it’s a more complicated issue than “taking back the tap.”

    Allen wrote on June 13th, 2010
    • I buy gallons of reverse osmosis water for exactly this reason. It’s really too bad that fluoride is very hard to filter out.

      Kiran wrote on June 14th, 2010
    • Count me in with the group that the more I learn about Fluoride and the other host of additives, the less supportive of tap water I’ve become. But #1 on the “make me go hmmmm” list is definitely Fluoride.

      http://www.amazon.com/Fluoride-Deception-Christopher-Bryson/dp/1583225269

      “The Fluoride Deception” is to this topic what “Good Calories/Bad Calories” is on most of the diet based topics. I went into the subject specifically to argue against someone who was trying to get me to consider I was mistaken… and came out the other side (much like Primal eating) going “Well I’ll be damned…”

      It’s hard to discuss with anyone because to suggest Fluoride isn’t what it’s said to be is an even harder nut to crack than Primal vs Standard American Diet.

      Bottled Water doesn’t have to come in single units as well… you can buy the gallon jugs of distilled and reverse osmosis brands, which are then easily re-used and carry your own container around.

      It’s a subject that I hope continues to gain ground person by person, the same way Primal/Paleo is… and I hope more people spend time reading up on it rather than just jumping on… dare I say… Conventional Wisdom. :(

      Ripper was right? wrote on June 14th, 2010
    • If fluoride toothpaste or supplements were universally available, adding it to water would seem neither necessary nor advisable. However, the dose does make the poison, and if you aren’t taking fluoride supplements or using fluoridated toothpaste then the quantities in water are (hopefully) not harmful.

      Certainly the benefits to those less well off with limited access to dental care far outweigh the hypothetical risks.

      The real irony here is that if we didn’t eat as much sugar and processed grain, the fluoride that is added to help prevent tooth decay would be superfluous. No sugar, no cavities.

      ChrisJ wrote on June 14th, 2010
      • Fluoride is effective topically, not systemically.

        Countries without fluoridation have shown the same decrease and improvement in dental health as countries with over the same period of time.

        Fluoride builds up in the body… and is cumulative. The amount determined “safe” for public water supplies does not account for the buildup in foods which are watered with fluoridated water, people who drink more water than average, body size and weight, individual sensitivities, exposure via pools and showers, boiling concentrating it to higher amounts in soups and other foods, etc.

        Ripper was right? wrote on June 14th, 2010
  14. Awesome interview Mark! Love your enthusiasm for what you are doing for the world. I am about to show my parents the video – they need it!

    Primal Toad wrote on June 13th, 2010
  15. Mark, it’s awesome to see you linking to story of stuff, it’s a great project. I love that living primal ties in so well to living sustainably.
    Grok on!

    ChrisJ wrote on June 13th, 2010
  16. I would love to drink tap and not spend money on over priced bottled water which inevitably contributes to the destruction of our planet but I do not want flouride or chloride pumped into me all day so I choose the bottle. I would love to hear of an alternative.

    mike wrote on June 14th, 2010
  17. The Weston Price Foundation sends you news of this kind of work if you join the foundation. It is a non-profit group that does research and fights for worthy causes like access to raw milk.

    Classic wrote on June 14th, 2010
  18. Dear Mark,

    Huge fan and loved the latest interview.

    Just wanted to suggest that you be a little more careful not to interrupt a question in the middle or step on the interviewer’s line. I’ve seen this before with you and I know this can be off-putting to some viewers (and interviewers), especially those that are looking for any old reason to tune your message out.

    Best,

    Joe

    Joe wrote on June 15th, 2010
  19. Awesome links!

    Jean-Patrick wrote on June 15th, 2010
  20. Luis Garcia wrote on June 15th, 2010

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