21 Feb

Reader Response: Simple vs. Complex Carbs

bread 1Last week Bill suggested that, although “there are plenty of reasons to cut out highly-refined foods,” there wasn’t a clear case that a “diet high in complex carbs from whole grains and vegetables is unhealthy.” We thought the comment was a pertinent one. In the coming weeks, we’ll offer some definitive guide material that goes deeper into the subject. For now, let’s discuss a bit of the stock behind our carb critiques.

We’ll begin with what we all seem to agree on (even our friends at the FDA). Simple carbs, those highly refined, sugar soakers are bad news. They flood your body, wreak their biochemical chaos before you can say Kelly Clarkson, and then leave you slumped in a sad heap of a human being.

But those complex carbs, aren’t they a different story? Every doctor and government agency is singing their praises, and it seems like a moderate and rationally minded perspective. We understand that impression, especially given we’ve been solidly entrenched in the agricultural age for about 10,000 years or so. But, as we’ve said before, somebody better try telling that to our physiological selves, ‘cause they’re still playing the hunter gatherer game. Total glycemic load flat out matters, and we would argue that it matters more than the glycemic index of individual foods a person eats in the course of a day.

Humor us for a moment while we first set the stage, and then we’ll move on to the contemporary details. Traditional hunter gatherer societies, those we have records of and the few remaining groups we’ve been able to study in the here and now, existed and, in the absence of famine, thrived on very low carbohydrate diets of about 80 grams of carbs a day on average. (For perspective, the typical American diet ranges from 350-600 grams of carbs a day.) Numerous anthropological studies indicate that they were taller in stature than their post-agricultural counterparts. The suggestion here: the dietary changes brought on by the agricultural age didn’t allow humans to reach their biological potential. Unfortunately, 10,000 years isn’t enough to change the human digestive system. We are operating from the same physiological makeup as our ancestors. This is just one bit of the Primal Blueprint picture, but we’ll move on for now to current affairs.

quinoa

First off, though you don’t hear people talk about getting a sugar rush off of quinoa, the fact remains all carbs eventually are converted to sugars in the body. Some, like whole grains, just take longer than others. Whatever the carbohydrate, it will eventually be broken down into glucose, either in the gut itself or after a rendezvous with the liver. Some of the glucose is stored as glycogen. What about the rest? In intensive athletic training like we talked about earlier this week, it is quickly burned as secondary fuel following the depletion of glycogen. For most of us, however, it gets stored as fat. And that’s after the body pumps out insulin in response to the excess glucose floating around.

So, if I just keep my carb intake within the range that the body can use and convert to glycogen, I’m O.K.? Basically, yes. Notice we said that the hunter gatherers didn’t eat zero carbs. Eighty grams is eighty grams. (And, by the way, it’s more than the initial target (20-50 grams) for many of the “super” low carb diets out there.) Logic should tell you that, even if you’re not ready to meet our good man, Grok, on his level, any reduction in carbs will make a difference. (And, of course, refined carbs should go first.) Another major benefit to low carb diets: the veggies, protein, and healthy fats a person eats to make up for the missing carbs.

And now for the research. Without becoming nauseatingly tedious or exhausting, we’ll offer a few points that illuminate key dimensions of carbohydrates’ impact on the body. A collaborative study reported in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition found that low carbohydrate diets are effective not just for weight loss but for “reducing saturated fatty acids in the blood and reducing markers of inflammation.” One of the study’s authors, Richard Feinman, professor at SUNY Downstate Medical Center explains, “The real importance of diets that lower carbohydrate content is that they are grounded in mechanism – carbohydrates stimulate insulin secretion which biases fat metabolism towards storage rather than oxidation.”

Intake of carbohydrates has long been associated with cancer, and dietary therapies for cancer have included a large reduction in carbs. A 2007 study found that a low carb diet actually shrunk prostate tumors in mice, whereas other diets had either no significant impact or, in the case of the typical Western diet, had a decidedly negative impact. Very low carb diets have been used for years to treat children with epilepsy and have been shown to reduce epileptic seizures in adults. Likewise, low carb diets have been shown to positively impact blood pressure, lower diabetes risk, and reduce both heartburn symptoms and abdominal fat.

On top of it all, there’s the issue of gluten allergy/sensitivity, which affects a significant percentage of the population. No, gluten isn’t found in every carb based food, but it’s in a hey of a lot of products in the Western diet. But we’ll get to that more in the coming weeks.

The big point here: while a diet “rich” in whole grains might not be an obviously unhealthy diet, it’s not the healthiest option either.

Questions? Comments? Ideas? We’ll look forward to talking more about this issue in the coming weeks.

chotda, Fran-cis-ca Flickr Photos (CC)

Further Reading:

Dear Mark: Sugar Cravings

Jack LaLanne on Sugarholics

The Migraineur: Shortcomings of the Glycemic Index

Modern Forager: So What’s The Real Scoop on Whole Grains?

From our friend Art De Vany: A Study of the Evolutionary Diet – It Works

Sponsor note:
This post was brought to you by the Damage Control Master Formula, independently proven as the most comprehensive high-potency antioxidant multivitamin available anywhere. With the highest antioxidant per dollar value and a complete anti-aging, stress, and cognition profile, the Master Formula is truly the only multivitamin supplement you will ever need. Toss out the drawers full of dozens of different supplements with questionable potency and efficacy and experience the proven Damage Control difference!

Subscribe to Mark’s Daily Apple feeds

You want comments? We got comments:

Imagine you’re George Clooney. Take a moment to admire your grooming and wit. Okay, now imagine someone walks up to you and asks, “What’s your name?” You say, “I’m George Clooney.” Or maybe you say, “I’m the Clooninator!” You don’t say “I’m George of George Clooney Sells Movies Blog” and you certainly don’t say, “I’m Clooney Weight Loss Plan”. So while spam is technically meat, it ain’t anywhere near Primal. Please nickname yourself something your friends would call you.

  1. Интересный ресурс и геста приятная, так что респект автору!

    Иван wrote on February 5th, 2010
  2. Ivan, spaceba.

    Mark Sisson wrote on February 5th, 2010
  3. Не дурный сайтек и гостевушка цивильная, так что респект автору!

    Иван wrote on February 9th, 2010
  4. Очень даже неплохой ресурс, добавил в избранное!

    Иван wrote on February 19th, 2010
  5. Предлагаю всеобщему мнению офигенный проект, где можно пройти онлайн целая куча различных тестов на проффессию

    Иван wrote on March 21st, 2010
  6. Mark,

    I read this post when it first came out and I was very pleased to see more information on Complex Carbs. As you stated above, are you going to release a “Definitive Guide for Complex Carbs?” I would be very interested in reading it.

    Thanks!
    Sam

    Sam wrote on April 1st, 2010
  7. Another fantastic article in the series of grains from the best of MDA. More reasons to avoid grains :)

    Primal Toad wrote on June 4th, 2010
  8. Hi, I’m a little new to the site but trying out the Paleo diet. Just a couple questions/concerns I had:

    1.) Is it not true that complex carbs can take tens of hours to digest? Wouldn’t that minimize insulin spikes during meals and wouldn’t you feel energized for the rest of your day if your breakfast was say 20-50 g complex carbs?

    2.) I don’t understand how you can lump all carbs into one evil category while still urging people to consider that there are good and bad fats. Can’t the same be said for carbs? Simple carbs (sweet and artificial carbs) might be causing much greater elevated insulin levels while complex carbs might actually stabilize insulin levels because they (theoretically) continuously release glucose during digestion.

    3.) I know you said that there were anti-nutrients in grains that might inhibit absorption. Isn’t it possible that a deficiency in say, Vitamin D, is made up by the fact that people on high carb diets are mostly in lower, tropical climates where they get a lot of exposure to the sun? And can’t these same people have evolved to more efficiently handle complex carbs found in rice, grains, etc. than people who have even more recently been exposed to agricultural farming?

    Just playing Devil’s advocate, but I would like to know Mark’s and anyone’s thoughts on this.

    Henry wrote on September 6th, 2010
  9. I was paleo for a long time and switched back to a vegetarian diet because I cant afford grass fed beef, because the feed lot stuff makes me sick. I would mostly eat fruit and veggies and eggs in my diet and found it to be fairly effective of a diet so not really knocking it, but I noticed that I felt pretty low on energy all the time and starving hungry, so after that 10,000nth piece of fruit I was eating in the day wasn’t filling enough I needed a change. You are saying that we haven’t evolved since paleo times, contrary to that, I do know that, in my ancestry, the vikings, were the first to have the genetic switch to drink milk sugar(lactose)after weening age. So after 10,000yrs of eating grain, I think we have had enough time to adjust a little bit. So far on my veggie diet, I gained 10lbs(not fat), feel full(no cravings)and have a ton of energy(strength returning) so what can I say?

    Seth wrote on October 5th, 2010
    • @Seth, the difference is that everyone is born with the ability to digest lactose (mothers milk) and some of us lose it in time, while others keep it. There was no prior enzymatic toolkit to easily digest grains.

      Mark Sisson wrote on October 14th, 2010
  10. Quinoa is a seed from a plant related to spinach, it’s not a grain!!!

    carice wrote on January 13th, 2011
  11. If you eat meat, please do not buy factory farmed. Learn to hunt or pay the price and invest in pasture raised…just eat less of it or use the money you save on not eating junk food. Treat animals humanely.

    Eileen wrote on March 31st, 2012

Leave a Reply

If you'd like to add an avatar to all of your comments click here!

© 2012 Mark's Daily Apple | Design By The Blog Studio