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16 Aug

Primal Ripples: Deeper Than “Just Food”

It’s Friday, everyone! And that means another Primal Blueprint Real Life Story from a Mark’s Daily Apple reader. If you have your own success story and would like to share it with me and the Mark’s Daily Apple community please contact me here. I’ll continue to publish these each Friday as long as they keep coming in. Thank you for reading!

real life stories stories 1 2My name is Nathan and I am born of white Australian (English/Irish) and Maori (native New Zealand) ancestry.

My story is unlike most others. I have never had any lifestyle induced diseases and have very rarely fallen sick my entire life. I am 180(ish) cms tall and my abs are more than happy to show themselves. I am a mere 71kg and I have forever been labelled “the skinny kid” despite how many chin-ups I can do. So I was the thin picture of Primal health before I began my journey in April this year. Actually I am now keeping more lean muscle mass than ever before, funny that!

I was fortunate to have a healthier than average upbringing. That is, fast food and soft drinks were a rare occurrence and my family members are non-drinkers and non-smokers. I have been almost illness free my entire life (a couple bouts of childhood asthma brought on by a cold). This would indeed irk many who had it hard; including my sister who still suffers with chronic allergies (I’m talking a gentle breeze would cause a 20-sneeze-long fit). We both had teenage acne, but who didn’t suffer a little on that front? Still pretty boring stuff.

When I discovered Karate in my late teens I transformed from a gangly teenager into a slightly less gangly young adult and my self-esteem began to build. I suffered a shoulder injury (torn rotator cuff) which still haunts me to this day and is relevant later in my story. I had a physical job, often trained 6 days a week and even did weight training on top of that. Needless to say my hunger was NEVER satisfied. My mother used to complain that I had a tapeworm because I never stopped eating (I didn’t have one, I promise!) I would eat box after box of cereal and loaf after loaf of bread. I never gained any weight at all and I was still hungry! I would have dinner and two bowls of cereal after because dinner would not suffice. Though if I ate those bowls of cereal on an empty stomach my body promptly rejected them, I figured it was the milk; I never liked milk much anyway. I am also told that us “ethnic” people don’t handle milk well (true or false?). I ate plenty of meat, eggs, fruit and vegetables and I generally followed the food pyramid (Australian standards, probably similar to America) and loaded up on the grain-based carbohydrates as much as I could. It seemed to serve me well. I figured I was happy and fit enough.

My affliction, if that’s what you would call it, was more mental. At a young age (around 8, I think) my mother was informed by my teacher that I may have depression. So I received “counselling” that I barely remember and it took me a long time to realize that I thought and felt differently than those around me. I don’t think the other kids contemplated the futility of existence.

Sure, teenage angst and a few hard-hitting family matters would have played a big part later on, but when I entered my early twenties and moved away from home things darkened more. I began drinking copiously. I retrospectively diagnose myself with alcoholism.

It began with just having fun and being young and free and ended with drinking an average of 50+ drinks a week. I was still highly functional. I ate well (if I ever ate at all), I exercised, I always made it to work, I always paid my bills, I stayed away from drugs and cigarettes but I rarely slept. I worked night shift which does strange things to a person. So I never noticed that anything was wrong while I was in the thick of it because I met all my obligations. The only thing was that I went home and relaxed with a drink or 10. This was often with friends, but often alone. It was the highlight of my existence: “two more hours and I can go home and drink and be happy again!” I developed weird sleeping disorders; doing things while asleep and seeming like I was awake. I also started forgetting things and I would forget nights and eventually weeks. Everything became less enjoyable than drinking, which was the only thing that gave me the energy and inclination to keep breathing. I ate so I wouldn’t starve, I exercised to not be weak and I slept when I absolutely had to but I received little to no satisfaction or enjoyment from any of it.

Sounds dramatic, but it’s really just honestly how it felt.

I will also add that I have an addictive personality and when I like something I tend to go way overboard. Thankfully I never had an interest in any harder substances or I would likely not be around to write this. My band of close friends and my loving partner (whom I surprisingly found while enduring this “phase”) were the ones that helped me see through this mental fog.

When I settled down with my partner in a new city, new job, new life, things were no doubt better, but the shadow still loomed.

I was no longer permanently drunk but I still felt very cold to everything. It is almost an ineffable feeling. I suppose it was just a general indifference to everything. My health was improving but my outlook was still warped. I began to revert back to the way I was before my episode which was physically well, but mentally “off”. The way I was since I was a child. I was good most days but I would sometimes have a mental spasm which would result in drinking too much and having little mental breakdowns about this or that. I was just not happy being me regardless of having every reason to be happy.

One of my friends was trying a “30 day detox” program and the diet was mostly paleo/primal. I didn’t do the detox myself but I tried some of the food and the notion of “eating yourself well” piqued my curiosity. So I wandered into a bookstore in search of cookbooks and happened across The Primal Blueprint. I devoured it in the next couple days and I went straight Grok for two weeks. Not one single dalliance. And with that I was awoken. It utterly obliterated all my preconceived notions of health, fitness, nutrition, life and happiness.

My mind fired in phenomenal ways, my energy exploded and I was resurrected as an entirely new being. My aforementioned shoulder injury that was giving me trouble felt amazing. The tightness and creakiness lessened. It still persists today but is 90% better than before and I hope to fully overcome it (it happened over 5 years ago). I had to have two wisdom teeth removed in June and I made an awesome recovery. I was back eating solids two days after with minimal pain killers the entire time. I was told many horror stories prior to the extraction but the whole ordeal hardly even affected me.

My energy levels are consistently high despite working long hours and I sleep better than ever.

I look forward to eating and even cooking like I never have before.

My outlook and demeanor have taken this unbelievable positive turn that words cannot do justice.

Though the remarkable ripple effect it has had on those around me has been what has surprised and delighted me the most. Me being me, I crammed The PB down everyone’s throats. Because I was all of a sudden so upbeat and energetic I was very eager to tell anyone who would listen and some who wouldn’t. But looking the way I always have people can be skeptical and I am met with the usual “You’re too skinny to go on a diet!” Sigh…

So armed with my newfound mental clarity and a sweet batch of Primal knowledge I set my sights on my estranged parents. We live in separate states and we only spoke for minutes on the phone a month (if that) and our laboured conversations often ended in angered hang-ups. I gave them my copy of the Blueprint and showed them the ways of Grok. That was now over a month ago and they have completely given up the daily bread. They are in their mid-50s and have had bread their entire lives. My father says that he has more energy than he has had his whole life and can do 100 push-ups while my usually inactive mother goes on bike rides and says that her stomach no longer feels bloated.

Saturday is now the day that they call me and give me the latest updates on their Primal journeys. There are even brief messages throughout the week letting me know about any small victories they just had. These are the same people that I wouldn’t talk to for weeks at a time. For me and mine the PB has gone much deeper than “just food”, it has enriched my life more than I could ever have imagined anything could and I am continuing to rebuild myself and my relationships with those around me.

My partner and I cook our own meals and I amazingly convinced her to ease off the rice a bit, which is a big ask for an Asian woman! We try to stick to the “wholefood” idea and eat organic as much as possible. It is definitely worth the price when you consider the better taste, the additional nutrition and the important ethical practices. I still eat some legumes, mostly green beans and the like as I suffer no ill effects and I eat as many green things I can get my hands on. We also cook with soy sauce because many of our meals are Asian stir fries cooked with coconut oil. Our diets easily abide by the 80/20 rule but mine is usually higher and sometimes perfect for a few days straight. Though we love to eat out now and then, I usually make the Primal-est choice I can. There is also the occasional social drink, but it is for happy reasons and usually after a couple I feel like enough is enough and I naturally limit myself with no struggle. The control I have over it now is effortless.

UntitledI have managed to coax a few push-ups out of my better half which was no mean feat. We walk a couple kilometres daily out of necessity. I do bodyweight exercise either at home or the park if I feel so inclined. I do a sprint workout maybe once or twice a month and go to the gym once a week or two. My weight workouts adhere to the basic Primal compound movements; none of this bicep curl stuff. Because of these types of movements my shoulder keeps getting better. It makes me really doubt the physiotherapy I received for it when it happened. They told me I’ll likely need surgery and suffer from it for the rest of my life. They gave me static stretches and isolated muscle exercises which I feel made it worse so I stopped doing it. It now makes so much more sense to use my shoulder in a natural movement then to twist and turn it in strange ways. I think instinctively our bodies know how to recover.

I finally feel comfortable in my shoes (which are Vibrams, of course!) and I can feel the effect I have had on those around me. Change begets change and ours began with a little Primal living. The world needs more people like Mark and the community that he has helped build. The crux of my letter being that even the smallest change, shift in consciousness or awareness of our actions can have the most profound effect on ourselves, others and the world at large.

Mark wrote a book and changed my life and that of those around me. I believe this knowledge has the power to change the world.

Nathan

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  1. Thanks Nathan,
    I used to think my 3am mood crash..”the dark time of the soul” was just normal for me. It went away completely after the diet change. bleak time gone!

    Kathleen Fitzgerald wrote on August 16th, 2013
    • Yeah… I’m asleep at that time nowadays!
      Strange though. I was often awake at that time too….

      Nathan wrote on August 16th, 2013
  2. Congratulations, great story especially the aspect of overcoming the drinking. People who’ve never gone through it (or lived with those who have) don’t understand what a struggle it can be. Those who drink LIKE to drink, it brings pleasure. So losing it is a big deal and most struggle to replace whatever it is the alcohol brings them. So good for you.

    Mitch wrote on August 16th, 2013
    • Yeah you are very right, Mitch.
      Thank you.

      Nathan wrote on August 16th, 2013
  3. It’s so great to hear someone talking about their emotional and psychological struggles. My first exposure to primal and MDA came from an article that Mark wrote about having fun with your workout, and acting like the animals that we are. It was just what I wanted to hear at the time. This was over three years ago, when I was 17, and at the time I was dealing with a pretty severe self-destructive addiction. Of course it didn’t go away over night when I went fully primal, but the constant urge is now a thing of the past. I attribute that partly to the good food, vitamin D, and exercise that I’m getting now, but I think the act of taking charge of my life and my health made an even bigger difference. Part of the reason some of us have problems is that we feel we cannot control our lives. Lots of self-destructive people try to control their bodies to prove that they have some power. Going primal satisfied me, probably the way it satisfied you. You no longer need a drink to have fun and feel good. I still often get existential pain, but it helps to know that if nothing else, I’ve taken charge of my life, for the better. I’m doing all I can.

    Natalia wrote on August 16th, 2013
    • I wholeheartedly agree, Natalia.
      …”existential pain”… That’s a concept to contemplate…. haha!
      Thank you.

      Nathan wrote on August 16th, 2013
  4. P.S. to an earlier congratulatory post Nathan. You might want to do some research on l-theanine, Ashwagandha (Withania somnifera) and Magnolia officinalis (I’ll put in a plug for Mark even though I know that’s not his style, his Primal Calm formulation looks good). I take a product with those ingredients and it really helps with my panic attacks (anxiety attacks, panic attacks and depression are all “kissing cousins” in terms of being in part neurotransmitter imbalances). Of course, all the things you are doing plus cognitive behavior therapy and having a good, holistic doctor is important. Best wishes.

    George wrote on August 16th, 2013
    • I shall look into it.
      Thank you, George.

      Nathan wrote on August 16th, 2013
  5. Amazing stuff mate I could relate to it ALL felt like you were writing about me & im also another Aussie from Australia haha Ive also been trying to get my bloated mum & diabetic dad on to this way but just cant get them to believe in it always come down to the bread that bloody bread!!! Grrr

    Nathan wrote on August 16th, 2013
    • another “Nathan” from Australia haha

      Nathan wrote on August 16th, 2013
      • Haha!
        We are everywhere!!
        Yes, that bloody bread….
        Keep at em man!

        Nathan wrote on August 16th, 2013
  6. This is something I can relate to, definitely inspiring

    Nathan wrote on August 16th, 2013
    • Is this the same or different Nathan!?
      haha!

      Nathan wrote on August 17th, 2013
      • Who u talking to? Haha

        Nathan wrote on August 17th, 2013
  7. Nice story. A lot of Aussies on this blog … Hear hear to all the PBers in Sydney!!

    Primal/paleo really does clear the body as well as the mind. It’s a wonder how we even get through life on the old SAD diet.

    If you can get your Asian girlfriend to do exercise, you will have achieved the greatest Primal Blueprint victory of all.

    I went through the same with my girl – Thai/Singaporean. Sugar addict, vegetable oil and cheap cooking sauces, skinny fat, no exercise whatsoever. Things have shifted so much that all of these things have now changed. Fresh food, good meat, clean fats, exercise and sunshine (despite the dream of wanting to be perfectly white). It’s a new life for her …

    Craigp81 wrote on August 16th, 2013
    • Cheers man.
      I’m down in Melbourne! (Though the Central Coast is home.)

      And it’s a constant struggle!!
      You cracked me up.
      They are worth it though right??

      Nathan wrote on August 17th, 2013
  8. I changed my diet because of “mental” symptoms, too. But when you consider how much the gut and brain are connected, it was really a gut problem. I had a ton of food intolerances.

    I’m so glad you wrote! I think this will give people hope that their life can get better!

    Debbie wrote on August 16th, 2013
    • Thanks, Debbie.
      I had a severe reaction to kiwi fruit the other day!
      …be careful of them. That stuff will kill ya! :P

      Nathan wrote on August 17th, 2013
  9. Awesome story mate, good to hear ur paleo story.. catch up with u soon bro. Till I c u next. Later

    David camilleri wrote on August 17th, 2013
    • Haha! …thanks Davey.

      Nathan wrote on August 18th, 2013
  10. Great testimony! Got me thinking about depression and how it’s treated with drugs. Seems like the first line of defense should be emptying out cupboards, refrigerators, and start eating real food. Continued success!!!

    Linda A. Lavid wrote on August 17th, 2013
    • That’s right. And that approach would be less damaging and probably more effective.
      Thanks, Linda.

      Nathan wrote on August 18th, 2013
  11. “Change begets change and ours began with a little Primal living. The world needs more people like Mark and the community that he has helped build. The crux of my letter being that even the smallest change, shift in consciousness or awareness of our actions can have the most profound effect on ourselves, others and the world at large.”

    Beautiful, heartfelt sentiments, fully seconded.

    Thank you so much for sharing your life’s experience with us. It is deeply touching and inspiring.

    Andrew wrote on August 17th, 2013
    • Kind words, Andrew.
      Thank you.

      Nathan wrote on August 18th, 2013
  12. Wow, what a testimony! Thanks for sharing.

    Ara wrote on August 17th, 2013
    • Thanks for reading!

      Nathan wrote on August 18th, 2013
  13. Awesome story.. keep up the positive work!

    kate wrote on August 17th, 2013
    • I shall, thank you.

      Nathan wrote on August 18th, 2013
  14. We have every reason to live primal in Australia: lots of sunshine, amazing fresh food and produce and beautiful beaches and landscapes. But, it’s bread, breakfast cereal and fast food everywhere. And trying to convince friends and family that eating grains is harmful is very challenging. We cleaned out the pantry 10 months ago when our child was diagnosed with type 1 diabetes (probably caused by genetically modified wheat I have found out too late) Consequently, he is the healthiest diabetic child you will ever meet, and his healthcare team can’t believe it. Diabetics in Australia are taught to base their diet on carbohydrates!!! The information on Mark’s Daily Apple has literally saved my child’s life, and we will never go back to the “healthy” Australian food pyramid.

    Do try grass fed beef from King Island. It is expensive, but soooo worth it.

    Suzie wrote on August 17th, 2013
    • That’s great, I’m glad things turned around for your son.
      Many of my extended family have developed diabetes too.
      Maybe I should turn my sights on them too….

      And I have tried King Island meats. Very tasty indeed!

      Nathan wrote on August 18th, 2013
  15. Nathan, your story has brought me hope! I have yet to fully dive into the Primal lifestyle but have been considering it for some time. Your story parallels my husbands in many ways as he is currently addicted to beer and drinks 8-13 every night. He is responsible, works hard, pays the bills and spends time with the family but feels disconnected, depressed and doesn’t know how to handle those ‘dark’ emotions. I know I can’t make him change but I hope that if I take the first step to go Primal that he will eventually come along and find the leverage he needs to conquer his addition. It’s great to hear that you’re feeling so much better and that your relationship with your parents has been healed. Very inspiring!

    Amy wrote on August 17th, 2013
    • That is so touching to hear.
      My suggestion is just to give it a shot, you have more to gain than you do to lose. And once you do, you won’t want to be any other way.

      As for your husband, I don’t have any real answers I’m afraid.
      He has to make the decision himself.

      Perhaps ask him to try a month alcohol-free.
      I did that prior to going Primal and that cleared my mind a lot and gave me the strength and inclination to take it further.
      Don’t give up on him.

      All the best to you and yours, Amy.

      Nathan wrote on August 18th, 2013
  16. Thanks for sharing. There is much truth in the adage a healthy body makes for a healthy mind.

    Finally realized after many years that I was depressed, with brain fog, feeling out of touch, and never being happy. A consultation with a health professional was somewhat helpful, but part of his solution was to offer to write me a prescription. I avoided drugs when I was younger, I did drink (part of the culture of another former British island colony), but I did not want the false sense of euphoria or dullness that drugs gave. I was eating the SAD diet, had read about eating better, but never really stuck with it until I started reading MDA. I find that following the primal path has helped tremendously, with both physical (that would be a lengthy other post) and mental health.

    I’m still trying to incorporate other lifestyle changes that Mark has wrote about such as adding fun activities, getting into supportive and diverse social settings, getting out in nature, to help combat the depression.

    Achieving balance in all aspects of life is my goal.

    James wrote on August 17th, 2013
    • Startling revelation huh?

      One simple tip I have is to try Vibrams. I love them.
      It improves my posture and I feel strong and tall but grounded at the same time. So that has a positive impact on the mind.
      Speaking from my personal experience of course.

      Small additions here and there can have a significant impact.

      Best of luck, James.

      Nathan wrote on August 18th, 2013
      • After losing about 30 lbs, one of the happy results was that I found it comfortable to walk around barefoot, even doing some circuit training barefoot.

        Vibrams are on my list of things to try, adding to my incremental changes.

        Thanks again for sharing.

        James wrote on August 18th, 2013
  17. Nathan, (the one writing the Friday/Saturday story here, he, he, he, not that you other Nathans are not fabulous of course)
    Thank you for sharing with all of us, one of the most encouraging parts for me was to see that you replied to nearly everyone. How kind, thank you for that. Nice touch.

    2Rae wrote on August 17th, 2013
    • No, thank you.
      All these amazing people have taken the time to write to me so it is a great pleasure to give the love back.

      All the best to you, 2Rae.

      Nathan wrote on August 18th, 2013
  18. Good on ya! Drinks are my last hurdle. Too social and too fun! When I take breaks the mental clarity is like a transcendence to a higher state if consciousness. A negative side effect to sans drinking is I have greater difficulty relating to average people on an mental/philosophical/intellectual level. So back to drinking I go and talking about the mundane like sports, weather, and where interest rates are heading. I have more in common with complete strangers via online phylums (like MDA) than real people in my daily life.

    Paleo Bon Rurgundy wrote on August 17th, 2013
    • Yeah I get you man.
      Just be yourself, no matter what.
      Sounds like a truckload of cheese, but it’s true.
      I have shocked many people in my life by putting all this out there but I had to do it for me and others like me.

      Nathan wrote on August 18th, 2013
  19. Hey Nathan…..wonderful….wonderful!! When my world becomes too busy and life a little trying, MDA Fridays are a great place to find joy….keep sharing the love….its a beautiful thing;)

    Dave Groves wrote on August 17th, 2013
    • Totally agree.
      Thank you, Dave.

      Nathan wrote on August 18th, 2013
  20. Paleo Bon,

    I think sometimes the lack of connectedness to others comes from being an outlier. It is sooo rare to meet anyone who I can relate to on a mental/philosophical/intellectual level, I completely understand what you are saying. I am exceptionally good at finding a common ground to connect with others so they feel comfortable, but I don’t really have an interest in the mundane topics so I still feel disconnected/discontented. Lucky for me (?) I have no tolerance, so one alcoholic drink makes me act completely goofy. If I drink a second, I tend to fall asleep so I don’t drink more than a couple times a year anyway…

    PS… You have a great sense of humor and wit in your posts that often makes me laugh out loud, thanks :o)

    Rae wrote on August 17th, 2013
  21. My beloved husband was suicidal the whole time we were together. (I met him when he was preparing for it — and he drank turpentine as a teen (and was dismayed when it merely made him sick…) and he was always depressed…. He was having angina, and I convinced him to start taking fish oil “for his heart” — I did NOT tell him that in Germany they prescribe for depression… and amazingly, not only did it make his angina go away — it healed his brain! He went from not wanting to go out and join our cul-de-sac parties to being the one who was dragging chairs out and calling for the neighbors! From wishing he could die (but thankfully, not (usually) actively suicidal) to looking forward to more life!

    Alas, by the time he decided to try primal and quit the cupcakes and soda and juice and so on… his heart was paining him again. (No, of course, he would NEVER see a doctor…) But he HAD decided, and we were cleaning up his diet…

    Then, he had heat stroke from several too many hours up in the attic (on a Georgia summer day — where it was 95 degrees out, and 90% humidity — and, of course, the attic was way worse… I found out when he semi-passed out and put a leg through the hall ceiling… (Thankfully he wasn’t hurt! But he said later that he remembered just before he lost his balance, thinking “oh, it wasn’t so hot up there anymore.” !!) That was Thursday. Despite me trying to keep him indoors, in the A/C and hydrated — he went out Sunday and mowed the lawn. And died at age 60 from a heart attack. {sigh}

    Sorry to be a downer — but hearing the joy of Nathan’s (mental/emotional) recovery — and knowing that Michael HAD committed to cleaning up his diet — and that the fish oil had freed him from life-long depression, makes me want to urge people NOT to give up — on themselves, or their loved ones! Putting it off… may not do.

    Elenor wrote on August 17th, 2013
    • My condolences Elenor.

      Paleo Bon Rurgundy wrote on August 18th, 2013
    • Wow.
      I am so sorry for your loss, Elenor.

      One of the many reasons I tried to bridge the gap between my parents and myself was in the case of their untimely death. I didn’t want them to pass thinking I hated them.
      You have given me even more determination to improve the lives of the people around me.

      Sincerely, thank you.

      Nathan wrote on August 18th, 2013
  22. Nathan, you’re wonderful! Have read all the comments, and it’s plain to see that taking control of your life and making a simple change causes huge beneficial waves. Following the primal diet myself since about March I’ve lost 7 kg, gained muscle tone and reduced my blood pressure. I’ve also gained a huge sense of control over myself at least.

    It’s great that you convinced your parents. I have dinner with my parents again tonight where they’ll tut-tut over my refusal of dessert and tell me that my diet is not healthy. This is from parents who while they are quite old, are suffering huge side-effects from their medications for heart conditions!

    Great work Nathan (and Mark)!

    HB wrote on August 17th, 2013
    • It is quite surprising to me!
      But I am happy to see it.

      Congratulations on your changes, mate.
      Especially the control over yourself, that’s a huge win.

      Nathan wrote on August 18th, 2013
  23. Thank you Nathan. I too have alcohol issues. I’m able to keep them under control, but I know it’s too much. Unfortunately, my turning primal came after a divorce where my ex got the kids a majority of the time. So, I feel and look better but there’s still a lot of pain to cover up. Grok on brother!

    glorth2 wrote on August 18th, 2013
    • Cheers man!
      I’m sorry to hear about that.
      It’s never too late to heal relationships.
      Good luck

      Nathan wrote on August 20th, 2013
  24. I’ve had the precise same issue with the mental fog. Ever since I was a little kiddie – sugar would do weird, weird things to me. O.O

    Reindeer wrote on August 18th, 2013
  25. Great story! It is amazing how eating the foods we were meant to eat, as opposed to processed rubbish, leads to so much mental clarity and vitality. It makes it hard to be thinking positive when your body is telling you it feels like shit all the time.

    My boyfriend, who is constantly being told he must have worms as well, has been 80 kilos since he hit puberty, and skinny as a rake at 6’4”. As much as I love him, I know he drinks way too much. It’s the college culture here in Australia unfortunately, especially so where I’m from. 14 out of the last 18 days he tells me he’s been drunk (and I mean drunk i.e. to the point of passing out) for one event or another. He’s generally a very happy and outgoing person, but I worry about the effects down the track. Thankfully he’ll soon be out of this environment and hopefully the excessive drinking will cease.

    I’ll have to be like you and get more proactive in my advocation of a primal/paleo lifestyle in the future. Maybe i’ll just spike his drinks with a little coconut oil… It would be a start.

    Alice wrote on August 21st, 2013
    • Ha! the spiking the drinks might not work… Probably taste to good.
      Thanks Alice

      Nathan wrote on August 22nd, 2013
  26. hi Nathan, I’m in Perth Australia – are you and your partner on this side of the earth or the other!!! lol… thanks so much for sharing your story. If you feel like lending some support to a beginner – either of you – I’d love to get in touch. Cheers for sharing – so very very inspiring.

    Anna wrote on August 21st, 2013
    • Hi Anna, I am in Perth too :)

      Roberta wrote on August 21st, 2013
      • hi Roberta! That’s great :) Wondering if you want to get in touch and how/if we can do that here lol! :) would love to friend up ..

        Anna wrote on August 21st, 2013
        • Hey Anna

          My email is robertagowans@gmail.com

          You can also add me on Facebook if you like :)

          Would love to meet too!!

          Roberta wrote on August 22nd, 2013
    • Hi Anna, sorry to say I’m over in Melbourne.
      Thank you for the kind words.
      In what manner would you need support?
      I’m only a beginner myself!
      I don’t know how I could help but I’ll try!
      What do you suggest?

      Nathan wrote on August 22nd, 2013
  27. Hi Nathan,
    thanks for the reply. I love Melbourne ! (Raised in Frankston). well – I guess I just feel like I want that daily contact you would normally get in a gym or other type of health group/team you know? – I’m thinking as I reply that I should probably say hello in the forum here.. There’s just so many people there though ! I’m a site builder actually and I’m wondering if I should build a site around my – and others if anyone wants – experiences. Just looking for emotional support really – to give some and receive some. I guess with your partner and family all on board you’ve got some of those needs being met lol sorry getting heavy here! lol hope that all makes some sense.. :)

    Anna wrote on August 22nd, 2013
    • Ha small world.
      Feel free to contact me via email paki.nathan@gmail.com if you want to talk further.

      Nathan wrote on August 22nd, 2013
  28. thanks Nathan, and Roberta ! – hopefully chat via email :)

    Anna wrote on August 22nd, 2013
  29. As soon as I read the line “I thought and felt differently than those around me.”
    I thought, this person is an alcoholic or addict. The reason I know this, I am too. I am an alcoholic in recovery. If after a while, you start finding yourself in a “dark” place again because the “pink cloud” has blown away, try an AA meeting also. We call it a “dry drunk” when alcoholics are sober but do not have a solution. Not every alcoholic needs AA, but it is a great place to get the empty feeling that we have filled up so that we do not go crazy or start drinking again.

    Cheers, you are awesome.

    Karen W. wrote on August 23rd, 2013
    • Takes one to know one they say…
      Thank you for the advice.
      I am proud and lucky to say that since posting this story my friends and family have really gotten behind me and have given me so much love. Not to mention all you lovely people on MDA.
      I am very lucky for that. I will always keep that in my mind though.
      Thank you Karen, YOU are awesome.

      Nathan P wrote on August 23rd, 2013
  30. Nathan! I don’t always read these Friday posts..but I’m glad I read this one! I’ve always been the round one, not the skinny one..but can relate to the “off” feeling. have dabbled in paleo…going to merge it with the Dash Diet to please my Dr (cholesterol came back all wonky in last physical) and get myself back to a better shape! maybe I can be the inspiration in my office…in addition to just feeling BETTER!
    thanks for giving me a shove in the right direction…when I didn’t realize I needed it!! good on ya, mate!

    Marla wrote on August 23rd, 2013
  31. Aww Nathan, you’re a real sweetie! Thank you so much for inspiring everyone who has read your Friday post and thank you for taking the trouble to reply to virtually everybody. You’re a star and totally inspirational :-)

    Sandy wrote on August 26th, 2013

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