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October 17, 2008

Primal Pies: Fill ‘er Up

By Worker Bee
67 Comments

A few weeks ago we previewed a recipe for a flourless pie crust. Our only regret? We didn’t actually tell you what you could be filling those pie crusts with!

With the fall season now in full swing (seriously… where did summer go?) we wanted to offer up a few Primal pie fillings. Granted, some are higher than we’d like in carb counts, but when you compare it to the alternatives, it looks a whole lot…errr…sweeter!

For all pies listed below, we recommend using our flourless pie crust recipe:

Ingredients:
1 1/4 cups almond meal
2/3 cup coconut oil
1/4 tsp salt
5 tbsp (approximately) of icy water

Method:
Combine almond flour and salt in a mixing bowl, stir in coconut oil and mix until mixture resembles course crumbs. Mix in water, 1 tbsp at a time, until a dough is formed. Refrigerate until ready to use. When ready, roll out and place in a pie dish. Fill your favorite fruit (we recommend apples, but blueberries are also delicious) and bake at 450 degrees Fahrenheit for 15 minutes or until crust turns a rich golden brown.

Primal Pumpkin Pie Filling

Pumpkin Pie

What would a Thanksgiving be if there were no pumpkin pie? Here’s a recipe which, although less sweet than traditional (read: horrendously unhealthy!) pumpkin pie, is an excellent substitute that is sure to please the palate!

Ingredients:
1.5 cups fresh or canned pumpkin (not to be confused with pumpkin pie filling, which comes pre-sweetened.)
3 eggs
3/4 cup maple sugar flakes
3/4 cup coconut milk
1 tsp vanilla extract
1/2 tsp salt
2 tsp cinnamon
1/2 tsp powdered cloves
1/2 tsp nutmeg
1/8 tsp ginger

Method:
Mix all filling ingredients in a bowl. Pour into a lightly pre-cooked pie crust. Bake at 350 degrees Fahrenheit for 30 minutes or until golden.

If you are so inclined, add a dollop of freshly whipped cream to the pie instead of that Cool Whip junk.

Disclaimer: Reader Holly recommended this recipe (thanks Holly!) as one of her favorites. We can’t attest to the maple sugar flakes, but we have to admit that they are compelling. It is basically dried maple syrup. Click here and here to view a manufacturer’s site for more info, and let us know what you think in the comment boards – especially if you’ve actually used them.

Fit Day Nutrition Breakdown:
According to the fine folks over at FitDay.com, this recipe as listed contains:

Crust:
Cal: 2463
Fat: 251
Carbs: 42
Protein: 45

Filling:
Cal: 813
Fat: 64.4
Carbs: 43.6
Protein: 27

Total:
Cal: 3276
Fat: 314.8
Carbs: 85.6
Protein: 71.8

Divided by 8:
Cal: 410
Fat: 39
Carbs: 11
Protein: 9

Good Ol’ Fashioned Apple Pie Filling

Apple Pie

There’s nothing more American than good ol’ apple pie, so do your patriotic duty – without sacrificing your diet rights – with this delicious recipe.

Ingredients:
3 cooking apples, sliced
1 tsp cinnamon
1/4 tsp grated nutmeg
1 tbsp butter, cut into small pieces

Method:
In a large bowl, combine apples, cinnamon and nutmeg. Toss until apples are evenly coated. Spoon into pie crust and dot top with butter pieces. Bake 30 minutes at 350 degrees Fahrenheit until apples are tender when pierced with a knife. Cool slightly before serving. To punch up the recipe, top with some chopped pecans.

Fit Day Nutrition Break Down:
According to the fine folks over at FitDay.com, this recipe as listed contains:

Crust:
Cal: 2463
Fat: 251
Carbs: 42
Protein: 45

Filling:
Cal: 509
Fat: 1.3
Carbs: 135
Protein: 2.6

Total:
Cal: 2972
Fat: 252.3
Carbs: 177
Protein: 47.6

Divided by 8:
Cal: 371
Fat: 31
Carbs: 22
Protein: 6

Give these a try this holiday season and then come back with your comments. We’d love to hear how you think they taste compared to more traditional recipes, if the pies turned out for you, and what, if any, modifications you made to the recipes.

eszter, CaptPiper Flickr Photos (CC)

Further Reading:

Eat This Today, Feel Better Tomorrow: Dessert Edition!

10 Ways to Forage in the Modern World

How to Eat More Fat

Top 10 Ways to “Go Nuts”

SlashFood: Organic Maple Flakes

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Son of Grok
Son of Grok
7 years 11 months ago

Unfortunately in my experience, there is just no way to make a decent pumpkin pie without sweetener. I think we will stick to the apple this year which still sounds quite delicious!

chiromom
chiromom
5 years 10 months ago

I often do baked apples instead of pie…1 teaspoon of maple syrup and baking caramelizes the apples so they’re naturally sweet. Greek yogurt in lieu of whipped cream.

Danger
Danger
1 year 11 months ago

The Maple Syrup flakes are the sweetener for the pumpkin pie 🙂

Samson
Samson
7 years 11 months ago

I’d agree with you there Grok. I also have a tough time doing my pumpkin pie without whipped topping of some sort. When it comes to whipped topping, I’ll cave and use a bit of tasty, tasty artificial sweetness.

And on the apple pie, it still all boils down to what apples you use. Since there’s no sugar in the filling recipe, I’d suggest a sweeter pick.

Holly
Holly
7 years 11 months ago

The maple flakes in the pumpkin pie filling are great! They compliment the taste of the pumpkin very well (think pumpkin with a splash of maple… mmmmm), while adding a sweetness to the flavor. The best part is, if bought organic, they are 100% natural, have half the calories of other sugars/natural sweeteners, have a low GI impact, and pack a healthy punch of manganese.

Son of Grok
Son of Grok
7 years 11 months ago
Thanks for the info holly. I have a major problem with one of the links touting the healhiness of maple flakes. According to their chart on sweetners, Honey is listed as the worst with “White Granulated Suger” being the closest to maple flakes. If that is a list to show whats healthiest, I think they are looking at the wrong thing. As we all know from mark, everything on the list spikes insulin and should be avoided if possible. I would be more interested if maple flakes prove to be lower on the glycemic index but the website just says… Read more »
Jenn
Jenn
7 years 11 months ago
I try to use powdered or liquid stevia as a sweetener. It is just an herb. You have to be careful though and buy a good brand, cheaper brands can have a bitter taste. My favorite is the little packets made by NuNatural. I keep them in my purse and use them to sweeten tea or coffee when I want a sweet taste. I also use in food I make for my kids that I want to sweeten for them. I am sure it could work in the pumpkin pie recipe instead of the maple flakes. Not sure about how… Read more »
Ellen
Ellen
7 years 11 months ago

Jenn, you’re right that not all stevias are the same. I’ve had some horrid stevias. My favorite is KAL brand Stevia.

I plan to make this pumpkin pie recipe using stevia– I think about 3 tiny scoops should sweeten it sufficiently.

Heather
7 years 11 months ago

An alternative to pumpkin is permelon, a sweeter relative of the pumpkin. I’m not sure how common it is, but it grows fine here in Southwestern VA and I can get it at the farmers market. People make permelon butter with it, similar to apple butter, or serve it like any other squash. I’m sure it would make a fantastic pie filling, I ought to get one next week to try it out.

susan coburn
susan coburn
4 years 7 months ago

Where on earth may I find permelon seed?

Ricky McGuire
Ricky McGuire
4 years 4 months ago

This is a real old hierloom seed i have hunted all over the net too find them but havnt been able too get any. this is another name for the app. mtn squash best bet is too go too a farmers market in southern wv or in va when ripen season is done and buy a couple get seed from them only way i have found them. Lost my seed too mice this year so now thats what ive got too do. Takes a average of 112 days too grow.

Terry
3 years 5 months ago

West Virginia Permelon seeds are being sold by Gaston Clark, HC 85, Box 61A, Jumping Branch, WV 25969.

You can call Mr. Clark at (304)466-4716.
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Huckleberry
7 years 11 months ago

Only three apples for apple pie? I usually use 5-6! I like your crust recipe. I do something similar but less primal, combining oat flour and almond meal. I found all-nut-flour crusts didn’t quite work, so I compromised.

Nice to know the coconut oil works. I’ve been meaning to try that for a friend with a dairy allergy.

Debs
Food Is Love/Seattle Local Food

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7 years 11 months ago

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Lauren
7 years 10 months ago

Thanks for sharing this crust recipe! I will give a shot with my dairy-free erythritol sweetened pumpkin pie this year.

Brock
Brock
7 years 10 months ago

My crust melted a bit cooking this for 30 minutes. Otherwise it’s good.

Maple flakes are pure sucrose though, which is 50% fructose by weight once the digesting system gets a hold of it. That hits the liver pretty hard.

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Kevin
Kevin
7 years 8 months ago

I had some problem with the pie crust consistency. The 2nd time around I used 3/4 cup almond meal and 1/2 cup corn meal. Much better consistency. I’ll have to mess around more with pure almond meal and adding an egg or honey to make it stick better.

Mark Sisson
7 years 8 months ago

Thanks for the feedback, Kevin. Yes, working with almond meal for baking purposes can be pretty tricky. Sometimes it helps if the almond meal is ground to a very fine consistency. But be careful if you do it yourself. If you go too far you’ll end up with almond butter.

janice
janice
6 years 1 month ago

I also am having trouble with the consistency. mine looked more like oatmeal. I have it in the fridge right now trying to form. My coconut oil was liquid, is that my problem?
Thanks for your help.

Felicia
Felicia
5 years 10 months ago

Well I made 2 pies last night! The first crust with coconut flour, and this recipe. I am wondering if this recipe could be misprinted! This is WAY to much coconut oil for the amount of Almond flour, I ended up with a soupy mess not a “dough” so I made more Almond flour and dished out my “soup” until I had the consistency I wanted…..which I figure is more like 3 TBSP of coconut oil. YUMMY! best pie by far out of the two! Cant wait to make it again for Thanksgiving! THX

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Kristy Bachman
7 years 6 months ago

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julie anne
julie anne
6 years 11 months ago

I recently ate a piece of fruit tart in Colorado Springs where the crust was made with almond meal, butter, sugar etc. The chef was kind enough to volunteer the ingredients but not the amounts. I certainly understand. But if any of you know the tart recipe, I would love to have it. Thanks! julie anne

Jeremy
6 years 11 months ago
I know this post comes a year late, but I’m hoping for some feedback anyway. I tried making the nut crust last night, and it was a bit of a disaster! With 2/3rds cup of coconut oil, the mixture was so wet, it was impossible to form dough. We had to add twice as much almond flour just to make it somewhat solid, and even then, the crust is just dripping with oil. (Almost too heavy to eat!) Besides that, coconut oil dripped all over the oven and burned. Quite a toxic evening! In any case, I wanted to check… Read more »
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Seriina
Seriina
6 years 9 months ago

Why maple flakes and not agave? I know I’ve seen some of the posts saying that agave is bad… but honestly agave has a lower glycemic index. I’ve had to use it because my hypoglycemic and it really doesn’t spike my blood sugar.

Cam
Cam
5 years 4 months ago

Agave doesnt’ spike your blood glucose because it is mainly fructose — it does spike your blood fructose, which is terrible for you. Do a bit of reasearch into it, I urge you.

GG
6 years 8 months ago

You know, when doing the pumpkin pie… all you really need is the pureed pumpkin and the spices… no need to add the other extras like coconut milk and maple sugar flakes… you can simply sweeten the mixture with stevia. I eat that mixture every morning for breakfast and it tastes just like the real thing… with even less calories then what your recipe calls for.

Strawberries
Strawberries
6 years 8 months ago
Agave Syrup is advertised as “low glycemic” and marketed towards diabetics. It is true, that agave itself is low glycemic. We have to consider why agave syrup is “low glycemic.” It is due to the unusually high concentration of fructose (90%) compared to the small amount of glucose (10%). Nowhere in nature does this ratio of fructose to glucose occur naturally. One of the next closest foods that contain almost this concentration of glucose to fructose is high fructose corn syrup used in making soda(HFCS 55), which only contains 55% fructose. Even though fructose is low on the glycemic index,… Read more »
Glenn Ammons
Glenn Ammons
5 years 11 months ago
The Fitday carb count for the pumpkin pie filling seems low. The pumpkin alone is about 30g and I figure, at 7.5 calories of sugar per tsp, 36 tsp in the recipe, and 4 calories per gram of carb, that the maple sugar flakes have almost 70g of carbs. Total carbs for the filling, then, is about two-and-a-half times the Fitday number. I made a pie last night. It is delicious. Like others, I had problems with the crust. Basically, it melted while precooking and floated to the top when I poured in the filling. So now I have a… Read more »
Glenn Ammons
Glenn Ammons
5 years 10 months ago

Quick update: I tried the recipe at http://goodeggseattle.blogspot.com/2010/08/on-finally-saying-goodbye-finally.html, both with and without sugar, and it was great both times. It holds together just as well as a flour crust and has a wonderful almond flavor. I used Honeyville Grains almond flour.

I also tried the filling without maple sugar and with 2T butter in for the coconut milk. I liked it but my carb-loving wife took one bite and declared it “not pie”.

Trisha Saunders
Trisha Saunders
10 months 9 days ago

Hi, I tried the link for the first pie crust recipe and ended up not being able to access the site (it said I wasn’t invited to read that site) but want to try this recipe. My question is at what point do you add the egg? I’m assuming that you mix the dry ingredients and cut in the butter but what about the egg? Thanks for any help on this. I’m attempting my first gluten-free (mostly) Thanksgiving and have to make apple pie.

Ryan Tanner
Ryan Tanner
5 years 11 months ago

If you want to make pumpkin cupcakes instead, skip the pie crust, mix a little (1/2 cup?) almond flour into the batter and pour it into individual cupcake tins. Perfectly light and tasty.

rob towles
5 years 11 months ago

great recipe. tried it once, even my kids can’t get enough.

gnataxela
gnataxela
5 years 11 months ago

too bad i didn’t read these reviews first…i added flour to mine to make it work.
haha

Chef Rachel Albert
5 years 10 months ago
I think there must be an error in the carb content estimated above for the primal pie. Granulated sweeteners I’ve seen in stores, whether dried honey or maple syrup, are very carb dense. It doesn’t look like they were factored in above. When I’ve seen maple granules they’ve been very high in carbs (like sugar) and expensive. Here’s a Pumpkin Custard Pie w/out crust that I’ve been making for about 10 years. http://www.thehealthycookingcoach.com/2009/12/post-thanksgiving-and-beyond.html It uses honey & stevia together, so you don’t taste the stevia but you cut the carbs. It tastes best with winter squash baked at home rather… Read more »
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It's Me!
It's Me!
5 years 10 months ago
I am in the process of making the pumpkin pie. I started with the above crust recipe, but, like others mentioned, it melted during the pre-cooking, so I just threw it out. Used a crust recipe that has worked for me in the past (1 1/4 c almond flour, 4 tbsp melted butter). I sweetened the filling with 1/8 c maple syrup, and 2 tsps pumpkin pie spice instead of separate spices,, and it tastes just like the “real” thing! That was pre-baked, though. If I don’t update this comment, assume the same is true for the baked version. And… Read more »
It's Me!
It's Me!
5 years 10 months ago

Correction: 1 1/2 c almond meal/flour, NOT 1 1/4. Sorry ’bout that.

Alex
Alex
5 years 10 months ago

Instead of using maple sugar flakes, I made my filling with two tablespoons of maple syrup and a quarter teaspoon of stevia extract (the pure white stuff), and it came out great. I find that stevia works best when used with a small amount of real sweetener.

Also, I didn’t use pumpkin. I used a large, orange, bumpy, heirloom winter squash from the whole foods store. I cut it in half, scooped out the seeds, and baked it cut side down on a rimmed cookie sheet at 400 degrees for one hour.

Abigail
Abigail
5 years 10 months ago

Wow…really wish I had read these comments before I tried to make three pies for Thanksgiving tomorrow. I had a horrible time with the crust and was getting very frustrated. Am going to try the one with butter that ‘Me!’ suggested instead.

Alex
Alex
5 years 10 months ago

I just made another pumpkin pie, this time with Me!’s crust recipe, and I like it a lot better than the crust with egg in it that I made the other day. It’s quite light and crumbly, but not so much that it falls apart when taking slices of pie out of the plate.

Chef Rachel Albert
5 years 10 months ago

I have tried the almond flour crust recipes from Elana Amsterdam’s book, The Gluten Free Almond Flour Cookbook with great results! They use much less oil. Elana swears by blanched almond flour (skins removed) over almond meal that contains almond skins). Having tried making recipes w/both flours, I agree w/her.

She has some amazing recipes that you could modify by looking at Mark’s recipes (replace agave nectar with honey and much less and you could add some stevia if needed)

http://www.thehealthycookingcoach.com/2010/01/the-gluten-free-almond-flour-cookbook.html

Chef Rachel Albert
5 years 10 months ago

I also do what Alex does, replacing canned pumpkin with baked winter squash. The squash is usually sweeter (always fresher and more flavorful), and can allow you to use less sweetener.

If you’re still making squash things over the winter (and why not, it’s a healthy primal food?) try butternut, buttercup, kabocha, hokaido, and honey delight squashes. I make an amazing Paleo Pumpkin/Squash Muffin using blanched almond flour and squash. Comes our great in regular muffin tins or mini muffin tins (cut back baking time for these). Great way to satisfy your sweet tooth w/very little sweetener.
http://www.thehealthycookingcoach.com/2010/02/if-you-love-or-once-loved-pumpkin-bread-and-muffins-but-youre-avoiding-wheat-gluten-or-grain-youll-love-this-tasty-r.html

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Maya
Maya
5 years 9 months ago

It being around holiday time, I was so excited to find this post! My first pie crust failed completely, and I wasn’t sure why. It just got runny and yucky and really didn’t look appetizing (though the apples tasted delicious). On the second go-around I decided to bake the crust first. 5 minutes at 450 worked just perfectly! These recipes are great, especially when dealing with family members who aren’t the most supportive/don’t understand. I found that keeping my mouth shut and letting the delicious pie do the talking worked wonders!

Lisa
Lisa
5 years 7 months ago
I couldn’t eat pumpkin pie without sweetener. I use New Roots stevia concentrate powder – http://www.newrootsherbal.com/product/view/id/164 This is how I make it but next time I’m going to try it with coconut milk. I’ve used cows milk and homemade almond milk. Crustless Pumpkin Pie 6 servings 14 oz can pumpkin (I use Organic Farmers Market) 2 eggs, large 1 cup milk 1/4 tsp New Roots Stevia concentrate powder (or to taste) 1 Tbsp cinnamon 1/4 tsp ginger 1/4 tsp cloves Fresh grated nutmeg Preheat oven to 425. Put all the ingredients into a bowl; mixing well with a wire whisk.… Read more »
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Jen
Jen
5 years 20 days ago

On the pumpkin pie…is the coconut milk the canned stuff or the milk in the carton? Is there a difference? Thanks!

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5 years 17 days ago

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Bonnie R.
Bonnie R.
5 years 9 days ago

While reading the posts is interesting, it’s intensely irritating to waste expensive ink printing the posts just to print the recipes I was searching for. Yes, the posts lead me to adjust the original recipe but there should be a simple print icon for JUST the recipe(s). Take a look at mainstream sites like Real Simple, Better Homes & Gardens, etc. Who knows, it may speed PB becoming ‘mainstream’.

Nancy
Nancy
2 years 11 months ago

I use copy paste. Add recipes to my OneNote recipe notebook and it’s great.

Gino
Gino
4 years 9 months ago

Does anybody know of a good berry filling recipe? Blueberry, blackberry, etc. Got three pounds of fresh blackberries in my fridge right now

Milla
4 years 9 months ago

Separate the white & yolk of two eggs. Beat the egg whites until stiff & white and set aside. put half the berries in a food processor with the egg yolks and some coconut water and make a puree. Put the rest of the berries in a pan with generous stick of butter, and simmer until the juices start coming out; let it cool. While it cools, fold the egg whites into the berry puree. Add to the berries & butter. Stir well, and fill the pie.

naprawa sony
4 years 7 months ago

Its, goood bllogg.

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Terry
3 years 5 months ago

West Virginia Permelon seeds are being sold by Gaston Clark, HC 85, Box 61A, Jumping Branch, WV 25969.

You can call Mr. Clark at (304)466-4716.
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Troy
Troy
2 years 11 months ago

My girlfriend and I can make a very low carb cream pie. If you know what I mean.

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