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June 28, 2012

Is It Primal? – Ezekiel Bread, V8, Edamame, and Other Foods Scrutinized

By Mark Sisson
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In this “Is It Primal?” series of posts I’ve already scrutinized sprouts, cashews, sunflower butter, chocolate milk and a couple dozen other foods for their suitability in a healthy human diet. Today, I’m covering Ezekiel bread, the sprouted grain amalgamation favored by conventional health nuts; V8, the tomato juice with a little vegetable juice mixed in; edamame, the little kid of the soybean family; mezcal, tequila’s mysterious older brother; and tigernuts, which aren’t what you probably think they are.

Ready to go? Let’s do it:

Ezekiel Bread

Ezekiel bread is the stuff that you’d be forced to eat peanut butter and jelly on whenever you went over to your friend-with-the-hippie-parents’ house. The bread would be made from sprouted grains, the peanut butter would be sprouted, and even the strawberry seeds in the strawberry jam would be sprouted. Back then, you just wanted some Wonderbread and Jiffy, but now? Now that you’re health conscious, grain wary, and can rattle off a laundry list of anti-nutrients at a moment’s notice, you see that telltale orange package in the bread section of the Whole Foods and wonder if maybe it’s a decent choice for those times you want to splurge with some buttered bread. So, is it?

Kinda. One study found that eating sprouted grain breads (not Ezekiel, but similar to it) reduced the blood sugar response and increases the glucagon response when compared to eating unsprouted breads, 11-grain, 12-grain, white, or sourdough. That’s pretty good… for a bread. But it’s still bread. I’d like to see it matched up against a lack of bread.

Plus, sprouting might take care of some or most of the phytic acid, but it doesn’t break down the gluten. And with the first ingredient being whole wheat, and other major ingredients including barley and spelt, there’s going to be a significant amount of gluten remaining in the finished product. Some might be degraded, but not all of it. I’d suspect that gluten sensitive people will react “better” to Ezekiel bread, not “well.” Not enough to justify eating it, in my opinion. Celiacs, of course, should avoid it altogether.

Verdict: Not Primal, but possibly better than white bread (and whole grain bread, for that matter).

V8

All your vegetable needs in a can – what’s not to love?

First, the imbalanced sodium/potassium ratio. I have nothing against salt, but it’s fairly well-accepted that an imbalance between sodium and potassium intake is one of the factors involved in developing hypertension. Since one of the best reasons to eat vegetables is to get enough potassium to balance out the sodium you get elsewhere, drinking V8 for the potassium is kinda like eating salmon cooked in soybean oil for the omega-3s. Sure, you’ll technically get some DHA and EPA, but you’ll also get an equal amount of linoleic acid.

Second, seeing as how V8 100% vegetable juice is actually 87% tomato juice (from concentrate), it’s more accurate to say V8 provides all your tomato juice needs in a can. Which is totally fine, but it’s not an effective replacement for your celery, spinach, beet, carrot, lettuce, parsley, or watercress needs. I’m actually a fan of tomato juice, even the pasteurized, reconstituted type. Rather than render it nutritionally void, pasteurization actually increases the lycopene – a potent antioxidant that can help prevent sunburns, among other qualities – content of tomato products (including juice). V8 is great for tomato juice, not “vegetables.”

Third, V8 appears to contain traces of BPA, perhaps because the cans are lined with it (though a type of baby formula had more).

Verdict: Primal – it doesn’t contain added sugar or weird ingredients – but it doesn’t replace actual vegetables.

Edamame

Edamame have several strikes agianst it, right off the bat. It’s soy, which contains potent phytoestrogens, isoflavones that interact with estrogen receptors in the body. It’s a legume. It’s unfermented, unsprouted, and unsoaked. If it’s being served in the United States, it’s likely genetically modified. So, shall I strike it off the list and move on to the next one? No, of course not. That’s not what we do here.

There are actually some “better” things about edamame when you compare them to other forms of unfermented soy:

Edamame are young soy beans, still in the pods. They are not eaten raw, but they don’t require a lot of cooking. A light steam (or run through the microwave, as sushi restaurants do) will sufficiently tenderize the little beans. These aren’t hardy, difficult-to-digest dried beans. They’re more like green peas or green beans, which I previously gave the stamp of approval.

The fatty acids in edamame are mostly monounsaturated (which we like), whereas soybean oil is mostly polyunsaturated linoleic acid (which we usually want to reduce).

Edamame actually have drastically lower levels of phytoestrogens than mature soybeans. One study found that the phytoestrogen content of edamame samples ranged from 0.02% to 0.12%, while mature soybean samples ranged from 0.16% to 0.25%. The gulf widens when you consider that edamame are a snack, eaten sparingly, while mature soybeans are usually converted into tofu, soymilk, and other products that people consume in large amounts.

I couldn’t find solid data on phytic acid levels in edamame, but that could be an indication of researchers’ utter lack of concern for the levels of phytic acid in edamame. I’d imagine that the phytic acid situation is much like the phytic acid situation in other young legumes like green peas and green beans: not very dire.

While I wouldn’t make it a regular part of my diet, edamame appears to be relatively benign as an occasional snack. Just don’t eat bucketfuls, don’t make it baby’s first food, and don’t get into edamame pancakes or some silliness like that.

Verdict: Not Primal, but don’t stress over a couple handfuls at a sushi restaurant.

Mezcal

To my knowledge, there have been no double-blind, placebo-controlled, peer-reviewed clinical trials comparing the health effects of roasted agave liquor, or mezcal, and steamed agave liquor, also known as tequila. Not every dietary item comes with a litany of Pubmed references, unfortunately. Anecdotes, oftentimes powerful ones, are available – especially when it comes to liquor. I have one about mezcal, believe it or not.

I like my wine, but I usually stop after a glass or two or three. I’ve never been a “liquor guy,” though. Scotch, bourbon, rum, vodka? While I can vaguely distinguish between the good stuff and the bad stuff, I’m not a connoisseur. For tequila, though, I make an exception. I love good tequila (and to a lesser extent, good rum). I don’t drink it much, but I really enjoy it when I do. So when I was in Puerto Vallarta some years ago and got to talking to a crusty old ex-pat in a restaurant near the beach, and he mentioned “illegal mezcal,” I was intrigued. According to the ex-pat (and confirmed via Wiki), true mezcal must come from certain states, like Durango, Oaxaca, Guanajuato, Guerrero, San Luis Potosi, and a few others, while any mezcal produced in unsanctioned areas is illegal. Most bootleg mezcal is dreadful, but the mezcal my new companion could get, he assured me, was “real quality, small-batch stuff.”

So we went. It was unlabeled, pulled straight from the oak barrel where it had been aging for almost four years, and dark as amber. Smoky, fruity, and smoother than any tequila I’d ever had, this mezcal was incredible. I wish I could have taken some home.

Is it Primal? I don’t know I have a definite answer, but if you ever get the chance to try an aged mezcal like I did, don’t even consider passing it up. But yes, for my money, apart from mead it is as Primal as liquor can get. It comes from a cactus, rather than a grain. It’s fermented. If you get mezcal anejo (aged), it will have likely picked up some antioxidant activity from the oak barrels, like whiskeys and other oak-aged spirits do. The roasting process might give it a few more advanced glycation end products (AGES), but it’s not like you’re drinking mezcal on a regular basis (right?). And roasting certain foods, like coffee, actually increases antioxidants, so it might be a wash. Skip the clear stuff designed to get you drunk and fast, and go for the dark stuff that’s had care put into it.

Verdict: Primal.

Tigernuts

A single touch of the spacebar makes all the difference in the world, doesn’t it? Imagine if I were to investigate the Primality of tiger nuts. I mean, there are valid arguments on both sides. We eat beef, goat, and lamb testicles on a regular basis (what, you mean I’m the only one?), so why not tiger testes? On the other hand, tigers are carnivores, and we generally don’t eat mammalian carnivores. They’re also endangered, which isn’t a commentary on the health of eating a tiger’s nuts, but still – can’t you find something else to eat? Sheesh.

But this is about tigernuts, not tiger nuts. Tigernuts are a kind of tuber found in a species of sedge native to warm temperate and subtropical regions of the Northern hemisphere. In ancient Egypt, they were pounded and formed into cakes. Today, they’re eaten raw, soaked in water to remove bitter tannins and phytonutrients, dried in the sun to turn into flour, or roasted. Tigernut tubers are fairly high in fat, with most of it being monounsaturated, specifically oleic acid. They contain ample levels of soluble fiber, which can be helpful for feeding gut flora.

Although one study found that tigernuts contain a decent amount of antinutrient factors (some oxalates, saponins, and a tiny amount of phytate), those were mostly mitigated by the roasting process, and a group of lab animals who ate a raw tigernut-rich diet thrived (PDF).

Verdict: Primal.

That’s it for today, folks. As always, keep sending in questionable foods, either through the contact form or in the comment section of this post. Thanks for reading!

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Patrice
4 years 3 months ago

Great stuff, thanks Mark for clarifying more food myths and that BPA in baby food was very worrying. That touched a nerve with me, how can they do that…

Gutted on Edamame, I’ll feel a touch a touch of guilt when I have it!

Chance Bunger
Chance Bunger
4 years 3 months ago

Glad you addressed V8 – i hate the stuff just to drink but the wife likes to make chili with it so that’s helpful. The one I ran across recently caught my attention because it hyped “0 calories and NO artificial sweeteners” – this is the various berry flavors of Sobe Life Water. The label says no sugar but about 3 carbs per serving. The stuff tastes unnaturally sweet for something with no sweetener. Anybody have a take on that stuff?

em
em
4 years 3 months ago

The Internet says it’s sweetened with Reb A (stevia, Purevia brand) and erythritol, a sugar alcohol. It is also loaded with thickeners. I doubt it’s Primal, and it definitely falls into my Not Food category.

Burn
4 years 3 months ago

In addition to the Previa, etc. there’s also several chemical ingredients that make up the “artificial flavors” or “natural flavors”. The manufacturer doesn’t have to list all of these ingredients on the label. Unfortunately not food in my mind. Too bad because I do like them once in a while

max ungar
4 years 3 months ago

Love the bit about Tiger Nuts. Also good to hear about V8 and edamame. Too often do I have friends ask me about edamame.

Diane
Diane
4 years 3 months ago

Okay — so where can I locate tigernut flour? And will the pancakes I make from it have black and orange stripes?

NMCynthia
NMCynthia
4 years 3 months ago

Only if you grill them!

Harry Mossman
4 years 3 months ago

Great series of posts!

Rand Hagenstein
Rand Hagenstein
4 years 3 months ago

Mark, you are probably not the first to write the words “mescal” and “double blind” in the same sentence. I’m sure Hunter Thompson beat you to it.

JohnC
JohnC
4 years 3 months ago

🙂

mars
mars
4 years 3 months ago

heh heh

Michael
Michael
4 years 3 months ago

I don’t know if he has ever done this one but can you determine if horchata is primal? For one thing, I love real Mexican food. When I go to real restaurants, I can’t pass up a cold glass of horchata. Also, I do rice but usually wild rice but I’ll eat it. The ingredients for traditional horchata is, well from my favorite restaurant, some ground rice, vanilla, cinnamon and I think sesame seeds. Related to this post, in Spain they make horchata from tigernuts.

Joshua
Joshua
4 years 3 months ago
First, check with the staff to make sure it is actually real horchata. In Houston, despite having eaten in hundreds of different allegedly Mexican eateries, I have yet to find real horchata. Never heard of sesame seeds being used, but everyone makes it a little differently. Almonds are not an uncommon choice. Vanilla, cinnamon, and seeds/nuts have all been judged primal, but I’m not sure about the rice. The sweetener would likely not be primal per se, and the dairy (if you use it) is in a Primal gray area. I would use cream+water, xylitol, just the rice and cinnamon… Read more »
Michael
Michael
4 years 3 months ago

Thanks for the answer, next time I go to the restaurant I’ll talk to them to make sure it’s the real thing and get the actual ingredients.

Bren
Bren
4 years 3 months ago

Just make horchata from tigernuts. In Spain it is called horchata de chufa. Very very good.

Cathy
Cathy
4 years 3 months ago

so glad to get the okay on mezcal! i am not a big drinker, but i do love good tequila. frankly, i haven’t really worried about it too much up to now, because i drink so little of it that i felt like it was easily covered in the 80/20 wiggle space, but now i don’t even have to put it into that category! thanks.

BillP
BillP
4 years 3 months ago

After 1/2 glass: “Might be Primal.”
After 3/4 glass:”I think this is Primal.”
After 1 glass: “Dude. Definitely Primal!”

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Suzan
Suzan
4 years 3 months ago

V-8 is made with genetically modified tomatoes

Shary
Shary
4 years 3 months ago

According to Wikipedia, GM tomatoes are not currently available commercially, although scientists are working on it.

I happen to like the low sodium version of V8, although a lot of people don’t care for the flavor. Actually, if you’re into juicing and have a garden, you can make your own V8.

suzan
suzan
4 years 3 months ago
Christina
Christina
1 year 11 months ago

Hi Suzan! While I am against genetically modified foods, the link you provided is only saying that V8 juices contain high fructose corn syrup from GMO corn, it doesn’t reference tomatoes as there are no GMO tomatoes as they all fail In consumer tests on things like taste and texture. Also at this point V8 has removed hfcs from all of their tomato juices (unsure on the fruit juices) so I wonder if the referenced link Is outdated or giving outdated information.

Wenchypoo
Wenchypoo
4 years 3 months ago

Not only that, but even the low-sodium stuff TASTES LIKE THE CAN IT CAME IN!

Janet
Janet
4 years 3 months ago

Thanks for the informative (and incredibly funny) post, Mark! I am glad that I don’t have to feel guilty when going for sushi anymore! Plus – now I want to try mescal. I think I’ll pass on the V8 (and tigernuts!) though. 🙂

Rhonda the Red
Rhonda the Red
4 years 3 months ago
Thanks for the update on Ezekiel bread. I had really great success losing weight and improving everything on a nearly primal diet–grassfed meats, low carb, organic veggies–called The Maker’s Diet. The only grains allowed were sprouted. Plus, Ezekiel bread is so pricey it became a treat rather than a mainstay. Unfortunately for me, grains are a slippery slope and one slice of Ezekiel turned into one tortilla for a wrap then to one slice of regular wheat bread then to cereal in the a.m. You see where I’m going. During a time of significant life stress, the grain train crushed… Read more »
Paul N
Paul N
4 years 3 months ago
“Unfortunately for me, grains are a slippery slope and one slice of Ezekiel turned into one tortilla for a wrap then to one slice of regular wheat bread then to cereal in the a.m” Rhonda, I think you have hit the nail on the head here… Bread, of any form, is not a primal food to start with, and having substitute breads just keeps out bread habit going, making us more likely to end up eating real bread when we shouldn’t. here’s an interesting test I apply – if the food is a finger food, and is anything other than… Read more »
Stephanie
Stephanie
4 years 3 months ago

I agree about the Ezekiel bread. I became acquainted with it while doing the fat flush diet. It’s a gateway drug as far as I’m concerned.

Janet
Janet
4 years 3 months ago

Correct. My arthritis pains and such didn’t go away until I had given up my couple of slices of Ezekiel bread per day habit. Wheat is wheat, as far as I am concerned. That small amount of wheat stifled my pain relief and energy level.

Nicole
Nicole
4 years 2 months ago

“My arthritis pains and such didn’t go away until I had given up my couple of slices of Ezekiel bread per day habit.”

I know it’s common to see statements like this on MDA, but that line just struck me as so wonderful and important. Your arthritis pain (a condition people spend countless dollars trying to remedy) is GONE because you avoid toxic food. It really is amazing and I’m so happy for you.

Gayle
Gayle
4 years 3 months ago

Amen to this! I used to eat low carb bread a lot. Even the one from Julians with 0 net carbs. I CRAVED bread all the time ! I would eat cake and bread samples at the grocery stores due to the craving.
Since finding Primal/Paleo I too am 100% compliant ( i.e no grains or legumes) in that regard.

John Mc
John Mc
4 years 3 months ago

I’m a fan of V8 – a better morning drink than OK or soymilk. They do make a low sodium variety, which helps.

jake3_14
jake3_14
4 years 3 months ago

Another low-sodium V8 fan here. 2 8-oz. cups/day is how I get my 2mg potassium/calorie ration.

Shary
Shary
4 years 3 months ago

Edamame is just the latest fad food in the US. It’ll be history in a few more years. Meanwhile, if you feel the need to eat beans or need a magnesium boost, limas are probably a better choice.

John
John
4 years 3 months ago

It may be a fad food but I don’t think that means it will be history, it will just not be interesting. What is a fad food that actually disappeared?

I do think one thing to consider about edamame is the psuedo-estrogen effect.

Shary
Shary
4 years 3 months ago

You’re right, John. I should have been more explicit. It will be the FAD that is history, not necessarily the FOOD, if edamame can be called a food. (Sorry, but I’m not a fan of soy in any form.)

P.M.Lawrence
4 years 3 months ago

“What is a fad food that actually disappeared?”

Steak, kidney and oyster pie or pudding. Glarum (rotted fish sauce). Silphium (a herb, now extinct). And maybe the original recipe Coca Cola counts, before they replaced the cocaine with caffeine.

susan
susan
3 years 3 months ago

Actually, I’ve made, served, and enjoyed steak and kidney pie. You gotta work with the kidneys–remove tubules, bring it to a boil in several changes of water–but they can be tasty enough. Garum is probably kissing cousins to fish sauce, which I get at the local Asian market for pad thai. Silphium, now, that I haven’t tried yet.

Overboiled Brussel sprouts (especially canned ones, aargh) ought to be abolished, but lightly steamed tender bright green ones are nice. I think canned broccoli has been taken off the market too, for good reason…

Jennifer
Jennifer
4 years 3 months ago

In Dallas, Edamame has been served at Sushi restaurants for a least 17 years (as long as I’ve “known” sushi), I’m guessing it is here to stay at least in Texas.

Beth
Beth
4 years 3 months ago

I love these primal/not primal posts. They are really helpful!

Today’s was a hoot!

My husband followed suit when I went primal and he’s game for trying the squatty potty I just ordered. Wonder what he would say if I served up some tiger nuts for dinner…

😉

Janet
Janet
4 years 3 months ago
Cool about your hubby. I listen to podcasts in the kitchen and my hubby can hear them where he is sitting at the computer in another part of the house. He likes my food great, but he is also soaking up what I listen to and I noticed he quit buying the junk cookies and fruit pies he usually was buying during the summer. There is a large container of cantaloup he bought and cut up in the fridge now and he announced that after this current case is gone, he is quitting soda pop. Ding Dang–he is changing without… Read more »
John
John
4 years 3 months ago

I’ve been primal for a couple years and have noticed my 64 year old wife is tending that way too. She still eats the occasional piece of bread, but her diet is no longer centered on it. And she no longer turns her nose up at my high-fat kitchen creations. (She made her favorite cole slaw with my home-made mayo last week – woohoo!)

I hope she keeps up the trend – I want my ‘hottie’ around for a several more decades….

Leslie
Leslie
4 years 3 months ago

Can you post a link to where you ordered the squatty potty?

Beth
Beth
4 years 3 months ago

Sure!

http://www.squattypotty.com

Yep! It was that simple!

🙂

Leah
Leah
4 years 3 months ago

Love Low Sodium V8 Bloody Marys on Sunday mornings. Now I might make them Bloody Marias!

rob
rob
4 years 3 months ago

I like drinking mezcal because it makes me even crazier than when I drink tequila

Peggy The Primal Parent
4 years 3 months ago

V8? Bleh! That’s stuff is not even digestible! I’d burp it up all day long. Buy a juicer if you want juice. Pasteurization doesn’t cut it.

Paul N
Paul N
4 years 3 months ago
“Buy a juicer if you want juice. ” But isn;t that exactly the wrong direction to go? The evidence seems to point that fruit sugars are fine, when eaten as the whole fruit, but when juiced, it’s a different story (and we lose the soluble fibre they contain) This still applies to tomatoes, even though cooking them improves the lycopene availability, creating V8 style juices is an easy way to consume too much too fast. Worse, still, it encourages snacking. If you are thirsty, have a non caloric drink (or at least, non carb) drink like tea, coffee, a lemon/lime/bitters… Read more »
Lady Grok
4 years 3 months ago

I actually make a horchata facsimile- using coconut milk instead of rice milk. I love it! And if it’s hot and I am feeling really lazy, I throw a scoop of vanilla protein powder in there and call it lunch.

Nocona
Nocona
4 years 3 months ago

Wow, beautiful idea with the horchata. I’m gonna try it this week. It has to taste good.

Juiettegold
Juiettegold
4 years 3 months ago

can you give the recipe?.

n8man
4 years 3 months ago

Yes, a recipe would be amazing.

Allison
Allison
4 years 3 months ago

Have you tried the Primal Fuel with coconut milk in a…. wait for it… “Slushie Magic”? It tastes like a vanilla/coconut milk shake. Even my KIDS beg for one on a hot day. I add a dash of cinnamon and vanilla and it is a meal/snack/dessert in one.

Jeffrey of Troy
4 years 3 months ago

Tomato is a fruit.

Eating fruit is healthy, drinking fruit is unhealthy.

Same with veggies, actually..

erick
erick
2 years 11 months ago

Agree, whole fruits.

Blending veggies into smoothies is not unhealthy.

Animanarchy
Animanarchy
4 years 3 months ago

Are poppy seeds primal?

John
John
4 years 3 months ago

Why would they be less Primal than any other seeds? They are true seeds. Is you question really is opium resin primal? Grok definitely could get it and eat it. Mark, is opium eating Primal?

George Henderson
George Henderson
4 years 3 months ago

William burroughs had aa lovely primal origin story about opiates. Grok eats the dried poppy heads in the winter, they stop his hunger…
I’ve eaten dried poppy heads when I was on the road and starving as a young man, not easy (chewed them with dried apple) but got me where I was going.

wilberfan
wilberfan
4 years 3 months ago

Loved the intro paragraph for the Ezekiel bread. Made me laugh in recognition. I ate that stuff for all of my 18 years of veganhood! (“Mmm! It’s so HEALTHY!”) 🙂

Raul Johnson
Raul Johnson
4 years 3 months ago

For those of us who find most vegetables unpalatable, what is a good way to get the benefits of vegetables without having to taste the nasty things?

Paul N
Paul N
4 years 3 months ago
Smother them with butter and (sea) salt. Failing that, think of some savoury flavour that you like – curry, mustard, cheese, even beef bone broth, and cook them in that. Rice, peas, asparagus, carrots, etc cooked in bone broth, with butter, is great. A favourite of my mother is peas/green beans with cream and nutmeg. i have also found, that oven cooking veg makes them taste better than any other way (except bbq, of course). Use no water and lots of fat – pork lard or goose fat, if you can find it, is amazing, but chicken fat will do… Read more »
Janet
Janet
4 years 3 months ago

OH YEAH!! BUTTER. I just found my local Walmart (small town, less choice) is now selling Kerrygold butter. I don’t have to travel to the next town to get it. My dad used to make butter with our own cow milk (grassfed cows) and we kids would line up for the popcorn he made with it. (We grew our own popcorn too). I never liked the milk, however, because of the FAT on top. I was young and stupid.

FatDrunkAndStupid
FatDrunkAndStupid
4 years 3 months ago

Cooking them in bacon fat makes them taste much better. I always had trouble eating veggies before primal, but bacon fat changed my life.

crankymom
crankymom
4 years 3 months ago

I blend my veggies into smoothies. Coconut milk with a couple handfuls of spinach, maybe some blueberries and ice.

Lisa
Lisa
4 years 2 months ago

Butter, salt, spices, coconut or olive oil. I’d guzzle olive oil straight, but I know a lot of people find it too strong even to drizzle on their salad. Play around with spices! I like to stirfry mine in broth a lot, which someone already suggested.

Paleo Bon Rurgundy
4 years 3 months ago

Is chupacabra primal?

alex
alex
4 years 3 months ago

Chubacca was very primal – just ask Han Solo lol!

Emily Mekeel
Emily Mekeel
4 years 3 months ago

I’d love some Chubacca but I heard it can be rather Chewy…

Nicole
Nicole
4 years 2 months ago

BOOOO!

…but well played.

WildGrok
WildGrok
4 years 3 months ago

It is!
Eat it with confidence (if it does not eat you first)
🙂

Derek
Derek
4 years 3 months ago

Sprouting does not effect gluten, but many days of fermentation does.

CRB
CRB
4 years 3 months ago

Does that mean sourdough bread (the real homemade stuff that’s only risen via fermentation, without the addition of yeast) might be more primal than Ezekiel bread? Or at least less gluten??

Derek
Derek
4 years 3 months ago

Some Italian researches have isolated a specific L. bacillus strain/strains that have made sourdough breads tolerated by Celiac patients.

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4 years 2 months ago

Sourdough bread is the worst for me! If I eat sourdough bread it tends to hit me like a Mack truck with the stomach aches/depression! I had been eating primal for about a month and my aunt basically forced me to eat bruschetta. And then next day I did not want to get out of bed — and for the most part didn’t. That was feedback!

Other wheat items don’t seem to have as bad of an effect. Bread not as much and pasta hardly at all.

Derek
Derek
4 years 3 months ago

Sprouting also increases vitamin A, C, and E. In addition, it makes grains or pseudo grains a good source of magnesium, something “Primal” eaters are often lacking in.

No, bone broth does not have much magnesium in it, despite popular myth. I don’t have the study at my fingertips, but it’s out there.

Animanarchy
Animanarchy
4 years 3 months ago

Apparently cacao is a good source of magnesium.
Today I was eating some river oysters and tree dwelling ants and I think I could taste the minerals in them as they tasted somewhat metallic.

Michael
Michael
4 years 3 months ago

Animanarchy, can I go with to this river and dine on those things that you eat? That’s as primal(eating) as you can get! What other sorts of wild creatures do you eat in nature?

Marissa
4 years 3 months ago

i’ve always wondered about the ezekiel bread. i figured it was not primal, as it always irritates my belly. thanks for clarifying.

Aaron
Aaron
4 years 3 months ago

You know, Mark, your newsletter emails are the only ones I read. I’m signed up to dozens of course, but I actually look forward to getting yours. Great posts, very useful, and entertaining. (Tiger nuts – lol) Keep it up! 😀

Amy
Amy
4 years 3 months ago

Since my days on Atkins in the late 90s, I’ve never been a big bread eater at home, but some things just need bread. I probably eat 1 or 2 loaves per year. I hate Ezekiel bread, but like “7 Sprouted Grains” made by the same company.

Aimee
Aimee
4 years 3 months ago

Tiger Nuts. Could not stop laughing. Thanks, Mark!

Madness
Madness
4 years 3 months ago

Will consuming tigernuts give me tiger blood.

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toaster for sale
4 years 3 months ago

“Today, they’re eaten raw, soaked in water to remove bitter tannins and PHYTONUTRIENTS, dried in the sun to turn into flour, or roasted.”

I thought phytonutrients were a good thing? Did you mean phytates?

Michael C
Michael C
4 years 3 months ago
Animanarchy
Animanarchy
4 years 3 months ago

Pizza Pizza now has gluten-free crust made from rice.

Erok
Erok
4 years 3 months ago
Del Maguey is the best mezcal, period. Made by artisans in a number of villages in Oaxaca, using hot stones for the roasting, horses for the milling (or sometimes men wielding wooden bats – how’s that for primal?), and some of the stills are even made of clay. The flavors are so complex, I would put any one of their varieties up against any of the best scotches. Check it out, it’s worth every penny. Oh, and, Mark: the agave is no longer classified as a cactus. It has it’s own family, Agavaceae. (had to look that up)
Ed
Ed
4 years 3 months ago

And of course someone beat me to it on page 2. 🙂

NorthernMonkeyGirl
4 years 3 months ago

So, what are the thoughts on “odd” tubers such as oca, yacon, mashua etc? I can tell you oca contains oxalic acid, yacon is said to contain lots of inulin, but beyond that I’ve no idea…

Lisa
Lisa
4 years 2 months ago

My thoughts on yacon is that it’s delicious. I know people who think it tastes like bark, but that’s the appeal. 😀

Rachel
Rachel
4 years 3 months ago

I just saw an article about pasta made from green bananas. Primal or not?

WildGrok
WildGrok
4 years 3 months ago

I have Mezcal cravings now 🙁

Debt Free Teen
4 years 3 months ago

Too bad Edamame isn’t primal, they are so good w/ Sushi 🙂

Chelsea
Chelsea
4 years 2 months ago

Soy is GMO

John
John
4 years 3 months ago

V8? Really? Processed nastiness with iodized junk salt in a can? Disappointing.

Dennis
Dennis
4 years 3 months ago

Had my first mezcal 20+ years ago in Mitla, Oaxaca, and have never looked back since. When had in its truest form, it is the smoothest taste around. Even better when put in the freezer:-)

Judybird
Judybird
4 years 3 months ago
Mark, your thinking is so close to mine. I really LOVE a fine brand of tequila, not much at one sitting, maybe 3 oz., but a great brand is hard to beat. That’s it for alcohol for me but I do love it on occasion, about every other week. Also, the sprouted bread is near and dear to my heart about every other week also. I find I need it to make sense of things. I fix my DH probably 10 sandwiches a week, he loves the john durst potato bread (!!!!) but they’re beautiful sandwiches and I just need… Read more »
Sophia
4 years 3 months ago
This is a very helpful series of posts. I’m actually not familiar with any of the foodstuffs covered but it’s good to know nonetheless. My question is to do with injera. It’s a type of flatbread that is eaten with practically every meal in Ethiopia and Eritrea. Very popular. Back home it’s made with teff. But in North America the grains tend to be mixed, e.g. barley and wheat. The difference is noticeable. People who travel back and forth notice how bloated they get when they eat injera here versus back home. The whole topic of injera is a huge… Read more »
Erok
Erok
4 years 3 months ago

I love injera, too, and your comment inspired me to look into this further. hayandforage.com has an interesting article on teff (rest of URL is: /mag/farming_teff_takes_off), with a list of seed sources at the bottom of the page. Looks like the median price is around $3.50 a pound plus shipping. I just might try growing some!

oxide
oxide
4 years 3 months ago

What about bread made from older strains of wheat, like emmer? it’s probably not Primal, but it’s certainly better than this new dwarf hybrid wheat crap. Isn’t is the new set of proteins from dwarf hybrid wheat causing the most problems, as Dr. Davis says?

No it’s not primal, but it could be a viable part of 80/20.

nbongo
nbongo
4 years 3 months ago

We LOVE having egg and bacon “butties” as my British husband calls them. They’re scrambled egg and bacon sandwiches with green onions and a thin slice of cheese on Ezekiel bread with mayonnaise. Pure heaven. We have these every Saturday morning, and EZ bread is the only bread I’ve found that’s close to Primal that doesn’t fall apart.

Ed
Ed
4 years 3 months ago

Coming from a tequila & mezcal aficionado, just one nitpick – technically agave is *not* a cactus, and is not even related. It is a succulent plant related to yucca.

Can’t wait for the Tijuana Tequila Expo in October!

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Molly
4 years 3 months ago

Dangit, just bought some Ezekiel bread a few days ago!! But thanks for the info as usual Mark, I’ll finish up this loaf and then call it quits.

Cristina
Cristina
4 years 3 months ago

How about Tiger Nuts, AKA people who just go BONKERS over TIGERS!? 😀

Josh Singer
4 years 3 months ago

I laughed when I read the tigernuts heading. Got kinda confused for a second. Although I’m sure there’s plenty of protein in those things. Thanks for turning me on to the tuber though; i’ll definitely have to try those out.

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