Comments on: Primal Lifestyle Good for Your Heart?

By: Tom Orlando

Tom Orlando — Fri, 13 Jun 2008 16:12:47 +0000

Mark and others: I see your latest on what Grok ate. My comment comes from my life experience. I am not vegan, but I avoid most meat. You make it sound like meat is generally okay/good, and I claim it is not okay/not very good. I ate meat for years until about age 55. I was diagnosed with a cancerous colon polyp after having as many as 7 polyps removed in annual checkups in previous years. At about the time of my surgery (1992), I coincidentally married a vegetarian lady and stopped eating meat of any kind. After the surgery and in followup exams, I had no more polyps. Later, during an exam, a doctor told me the biggest single cause of colon cancer is the eating of meat. I was glad I stayed vegetarian (I do eat eggs and salmon); since 1992, I have never had another colon polyp. At 72, I still take no medications of any kind and do feel old (the memory tells me) but quite healthy and active.

By: Tom Orlando

Tom Orlando — Fri, 13 Jun 2008 16:10:45 +0000

Mark and others: I see your latest on what Grok ate. My comment comes from my life experience. I am not vegan, but I avoid most meat. You make it sound like meat is generally okay/good, and I claim it is not okay/not very good. I ate meat for years until about age 55. I was diagnosed with a cancerous colon polyp after having as many as 7 polyps removed in annual checkups in previous years. At about the time of my surgery (1992), I coincidentally married a vegetarian lady and stopped eating meat of any kind. After the surgery and in followup exams, I had no more polyps. Later, during an exam, a doctor told the biggest single cause of colon cancer is the eating of meat. I was glad I stayed vegetarian (I do eat eggs and salmon); since 1992, I have never had another colon polyp. At 72, I still take no medications of any kind and do feel old (the memory tells me) but quite healthy and active.

By: Dave C. - DaveGetsFit

Dave C. - DaveGetsFit — Fri, 06 Jun 2008 15:27:45 +0000

I think 50g of carb is restrictive unless it’s being done specifically to help with weight loss. When Mark posted his intake ahwile back, I think he was up in the 120g a day range.

By: David

David — Fri, 06 Jun 2008 13:19:55 +0000

Sue:
I think my overall calorie intake isn’t too much. I exercise a lot and I am a hardgainer. I’ve never been fatty (yet:). It’s hard for me to eat so little amount of carbs. For example a banana and an apple is about 50 gramm of carbs. I don’t think it’s healthy to stress about eating. Usually I eat vegetables to cover my carb needs but I love fruits too, I don’t want to give it up.

I meant, the health of the old times’ people were pretty good. I think the main problem of nowadays is the processed “foods”. People of the ancient greek ate grains but they didn’t have any junk foods like we have at the supermarkets. I’m not an expert, but I don’t think they were sick all the time..

By: Rita

Rita — Fri, 06 Jun 2008 13:17:01 +0000

Another way to solve the calcium problem is with meat stock simmered for a long time with a large proportion of bones. Asian cultures who don’t do dairy probably get most of their calcium from homemade beef/pork stock and also small fish or shellfish eaten with bones/exoskeleton.

By: Sara

Sara — Fri, 06 Jun 2008 11:39:12 +0000

I have the same question—do I have to ditch the consumption of whole milk plain yogurt? At least in the weight loss phase? I love it with blueberries and walnuts for breakfast! But I might be able to give it up if I can have it again eventually.

By: Al

Al — Fri, 06 Jun 2008 10:10:57 +0000

Mark,

I am probably 90% primal now!, Just can’t substitute milk, cottage cheese and yogurt with anything because of the convenience of them. Milk goes into my coffee and also is a substrate of my protein blend which also contains berries and some flax seed oil. Yogurt and cottage cheese are my favorite snacks (I get normal not low fat options), and often serve them with berries or some other fruits.

Should I try to replace these with some other sources of protein ? I ain’t no casual eater of them, as I go through one container of yogurt every 2-3 days..

By: Sue

Sue — Fri, 06 Jun 2008 09:56:05 +0000

David, You can’t have high fat and high carb together as that will just lead to weight gain. Its one or the other. You should have high fat, moderate protein and low carbs about 50g. Also, low in energy is normal you have to give your body a chance to switch over from a carb burner to a fat burner and your energy should then pick up.

I think the health condition of people is pretty bad actually.

By: David

David — Fri, 06 Jun 2008 08:42:13 +0000

Paleo diet sounds great, but I think the people in ancient times or even in the last millennium have pretty good health condition so I don’t get that whole carb is very bad thing.
I saw a post about the zone diet here, but I can’t find it. Would be that bad if I eat paleo friendly foods, but in zone portions(40-30-30)? I have started paleo diet since last week, but I am too low in energy. My diet is high in fat (about 160 gramm), high in protein (about 100-120 gramm) and moderate in carbs (150 gramm). I’m about 152 lbs.

By: Nancy

Nancy — Fri, 06 Jun 2008 06:04:26 +0000

Food for thought on the whole calcium/milk mantra

http://www.notmilk.com/calbones.html

Plenty of other, better places to get your calcium (and magnesium) from!