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14 Jul

Persistence Hunting in the Park

preyUPDATE: Wow! Quite the response to this post! I had a good chuckle at many of the comments at first, but things have spiraled out of control a bit. First, let’s please keep things nice and civil in the comment boards. Heated arguments are one thing. Nasty ad hominem attacks are another, and they’ll be removed. Second, the reality is that if you never get within 40 yards of your target they’ll never be aware of your existence. I thought it went without saying, but don’t invade anyone’s personal space and don’t do anything else that common sense tells you not to do. I took out the line “Hide behind a tree for a second or two.” just so no one gets the wrong idea.

In most locales, summer is upon us. The sun acts as powerful beacon, a call to action for even the habitually sedentary to venture out and frolic in its rays. Hopeful mothers and fathers nudge chubby kids with creaky Xbox fingers, barely able to grasp the brand new football with which they’ve been tasked, out the door to partake in a mysterious, archaic activity known as “play.” Running shoes are finally removed from shoeboxes and attached to feet. Excuses to avoid going outside grow exceedingly pathetic and totally unconvincing, even to the skilled self-deceivers, who can no longer deny the basic awesomeness of a summer day. Squinting into this wonderful, terrible new light, they all gather in public areas – parks, hiking trails, outdoor malls, beaches – each in turn making personal pledges (or fulfilling imposed ones) that this will be the summer they finally take advantage of the great outdoors.

They are also weak and defenseless and, especially as they try to right the metabolic ship with outdoor Chronic Cardio through the park/sidewalk/trail/track, thrown into a state of confusion by all the sights, smells, and fresh air accosting them. Stale air-conditioning this is not. They are unprepared for what awaits them.

You, however, have been preparing for this moment for months, if not years. You’ve been eating meat, vegetables, roots, and fruit, molding your body and stoking your furnace with healthy fat, appropriate amounts of glucose, and measured bouts of intense lifting, sprinting, and steady movement. Even if you’re just beginning your Primal journey, even if you’re still adjusting – you’re still way ahead of the rest of ‘em.

It is a good time to be a persistence hunter.

Next time your stomach rumbles for a little physical exertion, venture out to the local park or track. Any spot where people will be jogging will work. You could even hit up a trail, as long as you’re sure there’ll be joggers. (I did this once in the back of a 10k race). Strap on your shoes (or don’t), wear something comfortable (or wear as little as possible), and survey the area. It’s now sacred hunting ground. You are the hunter; you can have your pick of the lot.

Regard your prey. Pick a jogger, any jogger, and let him or her gain some distance on you. A few dozen yards, perhaps. Now, walk after your target.

Keep your eye on the target, but let it gain ground on you. This isn’t a race, remember. It’s a battle of wits, of picking and choosing your spots.

When your target is a few hundred yards ahead, start to jog. Don’t let it range too far ahead, but don’t over exert yourself. Kiss the ground with a soft stride, making as little noise as possible. If you’re not barefoot, run like you are. You wouldn’t want to tire early and come home empty-handed; you can only subsist on foraged bitter nuts for so long.

Keep that pace for a couple minutes. Now speed up a bit. If you begin to gain ground, stop before you catch up completely.

Now sprint! Sprint for thirty seconds, and really push it – you might even be licking at their heels, but do not pass your prey. You’re not ready to finish just yet.

Stop. Let them continue on. Once they’ve turned a corner, passed behind a bend, or otherwise disappeared from sight, continue on. Jog, but jog in fractals. Start, stop, and run in spurts. For this portion, you aren’t breaking up the hunt into jog/sprint/walk sections; you’re melding them all together on the fly. Sprint for two seconds, stop for three, then jog for ten. Leap over branches, vault over bushes. You can even drop to all fours and crawl along the trail for a bit. Get creative.

(By now, it’s obvious that you’re a bit of a nut. You’re going to look a little strange. Are you okay with that? You should be used to it by now.)

Once you catch sight of your target, catch up by any and all means. Sprint if you have to. Just pass them up (no actual hunting, of course) and take a breather. You’ll probably need it. Flop down on the ground, stretch out, because you deserve it. Keep your wits about you, though, for there’s more prey afoot.

Even as you rest up, start the process of selecting your next target. After all, it’s open season and your tribe is hungry.

If there are multiple joggers zigzagging all over the place in all directions, you might try switching to a new target every time a new one passes in the other direction. Follow one for a couple minutes, then switch to another going the opposite way. Sprint after that one, then jog/crawl back in the other direction. How close can you get and for how many times without any of them knowing you’re there? The possibilities are endless.

Why the mind games?

The success of a workout. Whether you actually motivate yourself enough to begin and complete it, your performance throughout, and your intensity hinges largely on your state of mind. Persistence hunting in the park (yeah, I know, I thought about calling it “stalking” in the park, but somehow that sounded wrong) is a fantastic way to visualize and compel you to workout without “working out.” You’re in the moment, but that moment doesn’t occur on a treadmill while zoning out to the TV; you stay engaged in the act of movement itself. You’re aware of your muscles contracting and extending. You feel each footfall, every tiny pebble, every expansion of your lungs. You can’t ignore your physicality, nor should you want to, because we are physical creatures whose physicality must be nurtured and stimulated for us to be whole and healthy.

Give persistence hunting a try and report back with your experience. Grok on!

You want comments? We got comments:

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  1. children on a playground are generally aware that they are playing a game. the issue is with recruiting strangers without asking them when the result could be that they have a terrifying experience while you get a great workout. and that is exactly what the post suggests one do, it’s not suggesting a game of capture the flag. Which would much more fun in my opinion.

    Jamie wrote on July 14th, 2010
  2. ROTFLMAO

    Thanks everybody for a great laugh.

    michael wrote on July 14th, 2010
  3. I think Mark drank too much primal koolaid this morning.

    Gary wrote on July 14th, 2010
  4. this game seems like it would enhanced if your prey KNEW you and that you would, at some point, stalk and then come barreling down at them. then they would also need to keep their wits about them and really, nobody runs faster than when they’re being chased!

    Rob wrote on July 14th, 2010
    • Then make it a game!

      George wrote on July 14th, 2010
      • Norm wrote on July 14th, 2010
      • Done. Below is the Game of Antelope.

        “This game is inspired from persistence hunting seen by the Kalahari bushmen.

        To play, a group of runners is broken into two groups: Hunters and Antelope.

        The Hunter has only one rule, to catch the Antelope. This is done through a foot chase, as done by the bushmen.

        The Antelope must behave and think as one. That being said, it should only run when it feels threatened. It may not attempt to outsmart the Hunters, as this only occurs by accident during an actual hunt.

        The most functional breakdown occurs with more than 3 total runners. 2 Hunters and 1 Antelope. In larger groups the number of Hunters should increase until they reach around 4 or 5. In a group of 8 runners it would stand to have 6 Hunters and 2 Antelope.

        If a larger group is formed then a “herd” of Antelope should begin to develop with a hunting party of no more than 6 Hunters.

        Happy Hunting.”

        And you’re welcome.

        Norm wrote on July 14th, 2010
  5. I am banging my head as I read this thread.

    A lighthearted and helpful post has become a crapfest of comments.

    Really? Now we have to worry about this?

    I’m thinking if it is a primal woman that feels threatened the primal buy better watch his bits. :)

    I like what Mark said; if you’re really good at it, no one will know.

    Deborah wrote on July 14th, 2010
  6. Lol, not one of mark’s best ideas. Still, the principle of making your workout a game using your imagination is a good one.

    Robert wrote on July 14th, 2010
  7. I meant primal guy. :sheepish:

    Deborah wrote on July 14th, 2010
  8. What a shame…

    I started out with a big grin on my face reading the post by Mark. I absolutely loved his description of Grok vs. the modern day “prey”.

    Sad that it turned into an opportunity for folks to remind us of the dark side of humanity. That there are people who’s thrill it is to hurt others, and how that has brought about “shoot first, ask questions later”.

    Ken wrote on July 14th, 2010
  9. I’ve played a similar version of this on bicycles. Chase a car for as long as you can in a city and try to catch up to it. I’ve always thought of it as “car hunting.” Just be mindful of the law and safety!

    Deano wrote on July 14th, 2010
    • That’s funny! My driving instructor used to say, “The red light is the great equalizer,” with regards to passing other people, and why weaving in traffic wasn’t the best idea. When we would end up at red light, next to the guy that just blew bye us, my instructor would always smile & wave. I suppose you experience a similar feeling as a cyclist.

      Anonymous wrote on July 29th, 2010
  10. This is interesting, but I’m afraid it might be a restraining orderin waiting around these parts. Recently, I’ve come across actual deer while hiking, running – I’ve made ‘some’ effort to chase after them, but I can’t quite leap/hurdle as consistently as I’d like just yet.

    mikewootini wrote on July 14th, 2010
  11. I, personally, love this idea. I run a “boot camp” style workout in a wooded park on Saturday mornings and I think I’ve found our next workout. 1-2 prey and lots of predators all throughout the woods. Sounds like a lot of fun to me. But, you definitely won’t see me “hunting” a jogger, though.

    Jodi wrote on July 14th, 2010
  12. Hey,
    first time posting here, long time reader dough.

    Those who are not comfortable with chasing other people, I can suggest you my variation of hunting sessions.

    I live in Belgrade, Serbia. There is not to much parks around here, (actually there are, but I really love running around town), but there’s a lot of cars passing by. So, I jog around, and notice some car stopped on traffic light. Quickly I presume in which direction he is going in next few blocks, so I just run in front of him while he is still on cross road, and do combination of jogging, sprinting, looking back, looking forward, escaping people passing by (pretend that they are moving trees) and meet him on next traffic light few blocks after.

    It’s combination of same ingredients as park jogger hunt, but no body can you accuse you of being rapist.

    In heat of the hunt, you will be forced to cross in middle of the street, avoiding passing cars. For somebody, that might be down side because of potential risk, but on the other, it gets you pure adrenalin rush. Do it carefully.

    Zeljko Nesic wrote on July 14th, 2010
  13. I’ve done something similar back in my gym days… pick a person on the treadmill, and ‘follow’ them. Speed up when they speed up, slow down when they slow down, etc. I think this sounds fun! and done properly (as Mark wrote), you’re nowhere near them (until you blow past them, that is).

    But I think for now I’ll stick to ‘hunting’ my sister’s Newfie/Golden :)

    Tracy wrote on July 14th, 2010
  14. Great workout motivation idea because it gives you a challenge.
    But I agree that it might be a better idea to stay away from a woman because they tend to be more cautious.
    For those who are saying men are being suspected unfairly, they are just playing the odds. Men commit between 85 to 90 percent of the murders in this country each year. Google the FBI UCRs if you don’t believe it.

    Vic wrote on July 14th, 2010
  15. LOL mark your a nutter. How on earth did you come with this idea (true primal mind + some creativity i guess). Actually not a bad idea though.

    Gonna find my FEMALE prey tomorrow and try it out. Poor thing.

    ;)

    Oliver wrote on July 14th, 2010
  16. OK, I have to post on this one. I apologize in advance, as I tend to ramble. I will try to keep it brief.
    Persistance hunting is a great workout…even better if you catch dinner.
    I grew up and now live (again, damn economy!) in some rough territory in southeastern MA. Gangs,Drugs,shootings, stabbings, Prostitution, Robberies and Personal attacks in the news everyday.
    If I think for one moment that my safety is at risk, or that of my family, I will leave your grok ass a bloody mess on the side of the road. Not a smart idea.
    Just this afternoon while at the drugstore, my senses went into “alert status”, some crazy (high) bitch was getting too close to me in the aisle, while muttering to herself. Because I am waiting tables as *one* of my jobs these days, and was on my way to the bank, I had a large amount of cash in my purse ( I wouldn’t normally) And the senses went into overdrive….I slung my bag across my body and my body language and eye contact made it very clear that my personal space was being invaded. She muttered an apology and slunk of to the next target.
    I have learned and honed these skills from living in this environment. I am by no means a hostile person, but I am aware and on alert at all times in these areas.
    I completely understand that this post was a fun idea for a great workout. I am not offended or upset by it at all. But, alas, Mark, we do not all live in your glass house, and if you act like this without me *knowing* it is a fun workout, you could wind up on the front page, next time.

    Julie Aguiar wrote on July 14th, 2010
  17. My Groketts, on the other hand, have inherited Mommy’s social skills (Daddy is a man of few words) and think everyone they meet is their new best friend. They have been sheltered (we lived in the “burbs” for a bit) and have ZERO street smarts. This is something I need to address without scaring them TOO much. In the same drugstore today, I helped a disabled man who was struggling..They need to learn how to trust their instincts..Now are they born, bred or learned?

    Julie Aguiar wrote on July 14th, 2010
  18. Very nice article.

    I understand the importance of sprints and fractal jogging, but regular jogging gives a very nice feeling of calm, it quiets the mind and you feel to flow.

    Primo wrote on July 14th, 2010
  19. Wow..lots of tension here.

    I’ll just go find a nice bike or car to chase:)

    Barbara wrote on July 14th, 2010
  20. This is the funniest of Mark’s post yet. I imagined myself on the hunt, laughing and having great fun with the exercise. Taking looking crazy to the limit. When I started to read all of the comments, I laughed some more. Lighten up people!!! Fear is a magnet to the predator. Humor is an important part of my primal experience. This post really got the juices flowing. We all know where we’re at in life by how we react to what’s being presented.

    David wrote on July 14th, 2010
    • “We all know where we’re at in life by how we react to what’s being presented.”

      True, and it’s especially obvious when someone is so caught up in an idiology that he can’t see another perspective.

      prich wrote on July 14th, 2010
  21. I prefer this method, but should I only choose roosters to avoid offense?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AoEEPoBwf7Y

    Mike wrote on July 14th, 2010
  22. Yeah, as much as I like this site and it’s wealth of information, this “exercise” just seems completely out there to me. Not just because of the concerns that some of the women have expressed – righfully I agree – but also because I don’t see the point of it. The same for “extreme exercise” as well where there’s a HIGH chance of bodily injury that will be counter-producive.

    If there’s anything we should mitigate in the primal lifestyle it should be the inherent risk of injury and possible death during these vigorous activities. A sense of danger and excitement might stimulate some kind of hormonal response, but at what expense?

    I’m a heavy lifter and snowboarder, so I am not saying that all dangerous activities should be avoided, but it’s not the dangerous or even exciting elements of those activites that make them beneficial (except in terms of attrition I guess).

    I’m dedicated to my results and I bust my butt to get them. That’s what my focus is and I hardly ever take a “game” mindset in pursuit of those goals. I’m all business in the gym and on the mountain.

    Again, I have no problem with anyone who craves the thrill and if that’s what keeps you in the game than who am I to judge? But I definitely don’t see the intrinsic value result-wise, so I would hesitate to even think of something like this.

    This same running pattern can be simulated solo in an open field with a little imagination. Exercising that organ in your head is a good idea too.

    prich wrote on July 14th, 2010
  23. *facepalm*

    Ben wrote on July 14th, 2010
  24. Hey Mark,

    This is awesome – nice to see how you have adapted the information regarding persistence hunting.

    I think a lot of people have got hung up on secondary issues, instead of recognising the fact that this whole concept of persistence hunting did not involve running non stop, but rather consisted of walking, jogging, sprinting, tracking etc.

    I hope enough people get over the “stalking” issue and follow the link on persistence hunting and see not only how it was done, but how connected we used to be to our food!?

    For those hung up on the staking issue and how it may scare people I have a suggestion:

    Why don’t you team up with a friend family member that believes in chronic cardio? I know plenty of people that still believe you have to run flat out for an hour or more to maintain good health.

    You get to “safely” carry out this activity, and perhaps show them that you can get a great workout, not pushing yourself to ridiculous levels, but still maximising the benefits in terms of fat burning and cardiovascular health.

    In the end though, as Mark says, if you are doing it right the jogger wont notice you. Again, perhaps in Australia we aren’t as hung up about this, but joggers tend to run in groups, and are usually in too much pain to notice anything going on around them.

    You are never going to GRAB them physically, so I don’t see the issue? Joggers get passed by other people all the time, the only concern they will have will be their internal monologue as they say to themselves, “I wish I was as fit and healthy and slim as that person!?” ;-)

    Anyway, as I said Mark, great adaptation of the principles of persistence hunting.

    Also – if you haven’t done so already peoples – follow the link on persistence hunting and see how it was not only done, but how connected we were to our food and how respectful we were of it. Long way from picking up a steak wrapped in plastic from a fridge at a major supermarket!

    Grok on!

    PS – remember one of the Primal Blueprint laws – PLAY/HAVE FUN!? People need to not take EVERYTHING so seriously!? ;-)

    Luke in Oz wrote on July 14th, 2010
    • Oops – Mark already made that suggestion… U should have read all his post, not just the last line!!!

      There are safe and enjoyable ways to do this… Let’s focus on that!

      Luke in Oz wrote on July 14th, 2010
  25. P.S. *Brian* re: being intelligent in public. An intelligent way to do this while engaging in ‘persistence hunting’ based exercise would be something like running intervals, doing some random squats, push ups, pullups, etc. in between the intervals. Or using a squirrel or rabbit as bait as some people suggested. That would be too difficult though right, they can probably out wit most of intelligent beings. These options are much more intelligent than pretend stalking an actual unaware person, donchya think?

    And a good way to have fun doing this is to take a friend a long and laugh along the way because you guys are the only ones stopping running to get on the ground for push ups. :)

    Carrie wrote on July 14th, 2010
    • Carrie, that is a great idea! I’m not disagreeing with any suggestion that people, women in particular, should be exceptionally vigilant about safety. It’s just your stats (90, 40, 100%) have no basis in fact. Where did you get them? Granted, I’m a stay-at-home father, but I’m also a qualified librarian who requires proof. Seeing as how I and a number of fathers are stay-at-home dads who have cared for babies, your “100%” stat would be simply wrong. That’s all I’m getting at.

      Brian wrote on July 14th, 2010
      • Well, Hopefully my links will appear. I did post the other one above for the male vs. female perpetrator statistics but I still don’t see it. The mothering statistics are from a website I follow that has an article referencing a publication of tribal families and how they operate. I did make the qualifier of ‘generally’ because obviously this is not the case and there are of course lots of great men who do help out. My argument here wasn’t about men not caring for babies…but simply babywearing being primal/tribal and something Mark could possibly visit. (although he probably won’t see that suggestion here.) After all, what could be a better workout than having a 20 pound toddler on your back while you do all your normal chores? :)

        hobomama.com/2009/03/parenting-alone-we-need-more.html

        social.jrank.org/pages/1253/Violent-Crime-Gender-Differences-in-Violent-Crime-Offenders.html

        I removed the http://www. so be sure to write that in when you c&p.

        I also wrote another post that I didn’t see show up that stated that I read this article with enjoyment, smiling as I visualized the game. It was once I read some of the comments that people were uncomfortable with the idea that made me think twice. It would be like all of us sitting in a room thinking up a game and when we thought of this one and others showed valid concern we rejected their feelings and went about doing it anyways. I dunno. Maybe I’m just emotional. :)

        Carrie wrote on July 14th, 2010
  26. Wow, didn’t this one open a can of worms! I was imagining a crowded park with lots of runners, like the time I went to the Mall in Washington, D.C. With that many people, if you keep your distance and use common sense, it shouldn’t be an issue. Nobody would know WHO you were following, especially if you change targets frequently enough. And maybe chase down a bird here and there.

    Ah well, it would definitely be a fun game to play with the hubby.

    Deanna wrote on July 14th, 2010
  27. Wow. I read Mark’s post and thought it was a fun idea. After reading most of the remarks, it seems like people are seeing it a whole different way. You can pretty much take anything that people say or do and turn it in to a morbid example of what may happen or what the state of today’s society is.

    I think if you use a little common sense, you should be fine. For instance, if you normally jog through the park with a ski mask on and a large knife, you might want to leave them at home before trying this. :-)

    Kelly wrote on July 14th, 2010
  28. I’ve done this “chase” for 40 years. However, I do it the real way…actually hunting wild boar with dogs. Try keeping up with a pack of hunting dogs that are tracking and fighting with a 250lb, PO’d pig through thick brush, up and down steep hillsides. I’m 65 and still get after it and I don’t need to worry about getting arrested or shot by a CCW jogger. And I get to eat the prey.

    RS Weir wrote on July 14th, 2010
    • and that makes a lot more sense to me because there is some result from it. you have food!

      what the result is of this exercise with joggers is still baffles me. If it’s a better understanding of how paleolythic hunters respected their prey… well, that seems rather self-indilgent and silly to me. and evenso, i can appreciate that without doing this.

      prich wrote on July 14th, 2010
      • Lighten up – so you don’t see a benefit and think it’s silly.

        Some of us don’t live innards with wild boar.

        Some of us don’t take life so seriously – Primal Blueprint – have fun/play

        Some of us have enough common sense to not cause distress to the jogger and hence get in trouble – Primal Blueprint law – don’t make stupid mistakes

        Mark isn’t saying you HAVE to do anything. It’s a suggestion for those that may have sense of adventure to try something different and be a bit self indulgent – nothing wrong with that – as long as it doesn’t harm others.

        You may say I’m silly an self indulgent. I may suggest you to be self righteous. ;-). Note the smiley – as I said don’t take all of this too seriously, or personally. It’s not that important!

        Grok on!
        :-)

        Luke in Oz wrote on July 14th, 2010
        • Innards = in areas – damned iPhone keyboard! ;-)

          Luke in Oz wrote on July 14th, 2010
  29. Well, I oddly signed up for a half marathon this October. I think I might apply this to the race.

    Lars1000 wrote on July 14th, 2010
  30. Guys have followed me in parks. It’s scary. Please don’t do this to a woman, even as a game.

    shannon wrote on July 14th, 2010
  31. This is awesome!!! I think this is an amazing idea and am a little surprised at some of the comments. Take this lightly and have some fun with it. I’m totally going to “hunt” me some joggers! :)

    How about hunt your own sex?

    Primal K@ wrote on July 14th, 2010
  32. Hi Mark
    I really think you should modify or withdraw your original article. Many people would blindly follow your advice. The concept is too close to the edge to be considered “good advice”. I know you tried to soften the advice in this forum but many won’t delve that far.
    The friend idea is fine. Try re-working your point around that premise.
    Cheers

    Chris in Aus wrote on July 14th, 2010
  33. When I was in high school, for some reason we thought it would be fun to squirt passing cars with our squirt guns. A van started to head our way & we noticed the side slide door was open. “Sweet! we can squirt them through that open door!” we thought. As they drove past, 2 guys were standing in the doorway with buckets. My friends & I were the first victims of a drive-by soaking. Just a warning: sometimes the “prey” joins in the game :-)

    peggy wrote on July 14th, 2010
    • Ah Peggy 0 why can’t more people be as relaxed and fun loving as you – as you said it is a game! :-)

      Luke in Oz wrote on July 14th, 2010
  34. Hmm, I’ve done this while driving a lot. Never thought to apply it to running. Will give it a shot.

    Mike wrote on July 14th, 2010
  35. GOOD GOSH ALL MIGHTY PEOPLE!!

    I’ve done this countless times on the jogging trails near my house.

    You see someone up ahead, you sprint towards them and close the gap.
    THAT IS ALL!!! Has no one ever closed the gap on you while out jogging? Are you always the fastest? Mark was adding in other moves to make it funny.

    Some people can really suck the life out of some fun…

    Clint White wrote on July 14th, 2010
  36. If you “play a game” with somebody without them knowing it, it makes you a bit of a jerk. Even if they never know.
    I like the idea of a fun, varied, exciting workout, but there are other ways to do it. Maybe sports (like soccer) and games (like flags) came about so that people could have the fun part without the getting into a fight part.

    Lisette wrote on July 14th, 2010
  37. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again:

    WHY DO ALL YOU PEOPLE THINK YOU ARE SMARTER THAN EVERYONE ELSE?!?!

    ALL these posts prove that NO-ONE has read Mark’s post and not thought of the precautions and considerations that are necessary.

    For all the people on their high horses – STOP being so arrogant… you are NOT the only people with common sense… we don’t need you to protect us from some hidden/unknown danger.

    ALL the posts (from BOTH points of view) indicate that EVERYONE is aware of the fact that you should be careful about who you pick as prey AND when (i.e. male vs female, lone track/path vs large park etc).

    Get over it – stop focussing on the negative and embrace the positive aspects of life for F’s sake!

    If you feel the need to feel more intelligent than everyone else, go play a game of chess, don’t come on here implying that no-one else is smart enough or socially aware enough to know how to apply this idea without causing distress.

    At the moment – NOT ONE COMMENT so far (form either camp) has indicated that ANYONE is as stupid as you assume them to be.

    People are not as stupid as other people’s ego would LIKE them to be!

    WHY have so many of you ignored the lesson of persistence hunting, health and fun and made this into some rubbish about rape, male/female relations, etc?

    I’m surprised no-one has thrown in any comments about, Democrats and Republicans yet!?!? ;-)

    Perhaps that’s what everyone in the US should do? All the Democrats can “hunt” the Republicans, and all the Republican’s can “hunt” the Democrats! Sorry this Aussie just couldn’t resist ;-)

    Luke in Oz wrote on July 14th, 2010
    • Isn’t EVERYONE more stupid than me??!!

      Muhuhahahahahahaha!!!!

      Clint White wrote on July 16th, 2010
    • Luke sorry to inform you but the Dems are anty hunting, but they might make good prey. :) lol

      Joshkie wrote on July 17th, 2010
  38. I like this post, it’s a fun suggestion to keep things different, mixed in tempo and intensity, and exciting.

    However, I think it’s also great that people pointed out that to some runners it might feel intimidating or downright scary. It might also be dangerous for the pursuer. I can say with all certainty that anyone stalking or jumping out at me on a run will probably get a face full of mace and or a back-kick to the tender bits. That’s not ridiculous or sad, it’s a fact of life for us female runners, actually all women in general whether running or walking to their car in a dark parking lot. Dismissing it doesn’t make it go away. We ARE prey, it’s our reality.

    That being said, pursuit games can be very fun. Has anyone here run with the Hash House Harriers?

    from their wiki: “At a Hash, one or more members (Hares) lay a trail, which is then followed by the remainder of the group (the Pack or Hounds). The trail often includes false trails, short cuts, dead ends, and splits. ”

    they’re a very fun group to run with, with chapters all over the world. Running in a hash is nothing like going out for a jog!

    Robin wrote on July 14th, 2010
    • Sound like fun, & you don’t sound like prey to me

      Joshkie wrote on July 17th, 2010
  39. And if you want some insight into what it means to be a woman running alone, here are my thoughts, a little essay I wrote.

    http://ironmom.blogspot.com/2010/03/running-as-woman-running-solo.html

    My favorite quote on the subject: “If a woman goes for a lone run, she must be a warrior, too.”

    Robin wrote on July 14th, 2010
    • A good article. Just because some might see you as a victim/prey doesn’t make you one. A good book to read is “Meditations on Violences” by Rory Miller.

      Joshkie wrote on July 17th, 2010
  40. Too much! A good way to start the day at the office! I think Mark was in a bit of a naughty mood when he wrote this. I think its a great idea though and cannot wait to try it!

    sangita wrote on July 14th, 2010

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