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		<title>By: Physical Inactivity Linked to Prostate Cancer Risk &#124; Mark's Daily Apple</title>
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		<dc:creator>Physical Inactivity Linked to Prostate Cancer Risk &#124; Mark's Daily Apple</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 20:30:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Your Belly Bone&#8217;s Connected to Your Brain Bone &#124; Mark's Daily Apple</title>
		<link>http://www.marksdailyapple.com/obesity-cancer-link/#comment-402706</link>
		<dc:creator>Your Belly Bone&#8217;s Connected to Your Brain Bone &#124; Mark's Daily Apple</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 00:00:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Anna</title>
		<link>http://www.marksdailyapple.com/obesity-cancer-link/#comment-30592</link>
		<dc:creator>Anna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 16:56:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And the fat misinformation isn&#039;t just about cancer, either.  Last night I turned on the TV to a locally produced program on the local PBS station, focused on the burgeoning Alzheimers rates and the future impact on the state of CA.   I knew it was locally produced because I recognized the lab interiors at the institute where my husband works, and one of his colleagues was interviewed.  

But I wanted to scream at the TV when the narrator began to talk about prevention of Alzheimers and recommended a low fat, low saturated fat diet!  Anti-oxidents were also mentioned, with a still life of wine and grapes shown (the case for anti-oxidents isn&#039;t a slam-dunk either, but you wouldn&#039;t know it from the media).  Those two things were all that were offered for prevention suggestions.  The rest of the story about on-going research was about dicovering drug treatment (which, while proving very difficult, will be a financial boon to the lucky drug companies that come up with something with even a minimal level of efficacy.  

The brain is at least 60% fat and my &quot;library&quot; research (I&#039;m not the scientist in the family) indicates that high insulin (due to high CHO intake) is at least part of the mystery of Alzheimers origins, not saturated fat, cholesterol, or even total fat (except perhaps, lack of it for stuctural use).  Most of what I have been coming across says that for the elderly, low cholesterol levels are associated with increased risk of dementia, too.

It has gotten to the point where I don&#039;t even bother reading the weekly &quot;health&quot; section of the newspaper anymore because the info in it is so out of context, incomplete, useless and misleading, and too often, downright wrong and extremely biased (especially against saturated fat).  And while the internet has its own pitfalls, it is still the best way to navigate through all the baloney to explore health issues and info.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And the fat misinformation isn&#8217;t just about cancer, either.  Last night I turned on the TV to a locally produced program on the local PBS station, focused on the burgeoning Alzheimers rates and the future impact on the state of CA.   I knew it was locally produced because I recognized the lab interiors at the institute where my husband works, and one of his colleagues was interviewed.  </p>
<p>But I wanted to scream at the TV when the narrator began to talk about prevention of Alzheimers and recommended a low fat, low saturated fat diet!  Anti-oxidents were also mentioned, with a still life of wine and grapes shown (the case for anti-oxidents isn&#8217;t a slam-dunk either, but you wouldn&#8217;t know it from the media).  Those two things were all that were offered for prevention suggestions.  The rest of the story about on-going research was about dicovering drug treatment (which, while proving very difficult, will be a financial boon to the lucky drug companies that come up with something with even a minimal level of efficacy.  </p>
<p>The brain is at least 60% fat and my &#8220;library&#8221; research (I&#8217;m not the scientist in the family) indicates that high insulin (due to high CHO intake) is at least part of the mystery of Alzheimers origins, not saturated fat, cholesterol, or even total fat (except perhaps, lack of it for stuctural use).  Most of what I have been coming across says that for the elderly, low cholesterol levels are associated with increased risk of dementia, too.</p>
<p>It has gotten to the point where I don&#8217;t even bother reading the weekly &#8220;health&#8221; section of the newspaper anymore because the info in it is so out of context, incomplete, useless and misleading, and too often, downright wrong and extremely biased (especially against saturated fat).  And while the internet has its own pitfalls, it is still the best way to navigate through all the baloney to explore health issues and info.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://www.marksdailyapple.com/obesity-cancer-link/#comment-30577</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 14:25:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not just education, but the ingrained nature of the misinformation.  Trying to explain why low-carb is better than low-fat and that fat in the diet really has nothing to do with fats in the blood is like poking myself in the eye with a sharp object.  It is part education - but it&#039;s got to be a reversal of what has been taught for so many years.  That&#039;s not what the government is talking about - they still include low-fat, more complex carbs in the message.  The other commenters on this topic are right on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not just education, but the ingrained nature of the misinformation.  Trying to explain why low-carb is better than low-fat and that fat in the diet really has nothing to do with fats in the blood is like poking myself in the eye with a sharp object.  It is part education &#8211; but it&#8217;s got to be a reversal of what has been taught for so many years.  That&#8217;s not what the government is talking about &#8211; they still include low-fat, more complex carbs in the message.  The other commenters on this topic are right on.</p>
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		<title>By: markus</title>
		<link>http://www.marksdailyapple.com/obesity-cancer-link/#comment-30386</link>
		<dc:creator>markus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 11:46:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>obesity is THE most obvious form of &quot;metabolic syndrome&quot; and - following Taubes - the key elements in obesity are the effects of high carbohydrates on insulin.
Also, high blood glucose causes a cascade of ill effects - including destruction of white blood cells - reducing immunity - more stress on the liver (fatty liver disease) greater reactive chemical processes (advance glycation end products) etc etc.

all these components, plus the replacement of animal fats with omega 6 vegetable oils, with their proven immunosuppressive characteristics, puts the body under great oxidative stress and compromises its first lines of defence - all leading to cancer promotion of all types.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>obesity is THE most obvious form of &#8220;metabolic syndrome&#8221; and &#8211; following Taubes &#8211; the key elements in obesity are the effects of high carbohydrates on insulin.<br />
Also, high blood glucose causes a cascade of ill effects &#8211; including destruction of white blood cells &#8211; reducing immunity &#8211; more stress on the liver (fatty liver disease) greater reactive chemical processes (advance glycation end products) etc etc.</p>
<p>all these components, plus the replacement of animal fats with omega 6 vegetable oils, with their proven immunosuppressive characteristics, puts the body under great oxidative stress and compromises its first lines of defence &#8211; all leading to cancer promotion of all types.</p>
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		<title>By: Anna</title>
		<link>http://www.marksdailyapple.com/obesity-cancer-link/#comment-30294</link>
		<dc:creator>Anna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 23:52:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Huckleberry,

Thanks.  Not too much righteous indignation?  :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Huckleberry,</p>
<p>Thanks.  Not too much righteous indignation?  <img src='http://www.marksdailyapple.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Sasquatch</title>
		<link>http://www.marksdailyapple.com/obesity-cancer-link/#comment-30292</link>
		<dc:creator>Sasquatch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 23:43:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the post.  I think it&#039;s important to point out that the higher cancer risk with obesity is an association.  Causality hasn&#039;t been established.  

If I were Gary Taubes, I&#039;d say that the cancer and the obesity are probably both promoted by the same thing- excess insulin and blood glucose due to overconsumption of refined carbs.  

If I were me, I&#039;d agree with Gary Taubes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the post.  I think it&#8217;s important to point out that the higher cancer risk with obesity is an association.  Causality hasn&#8217;t been established.  </p>
<p>If I were Gary Taubes, I&#8217;d say that the cancer and the obesity are probably both promoted by the same thing- excess insulin and blood glucose due to overconsumption of refined carbs.  </p>
<p>If I were me, I&#8217;d agree with Gary Taubes.</p>
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		<title>By: Huckleberry</title>
		<link>http://www.marksdailyapple.com/obesity-cancer-link/#comment-30290</link>
		<dc:creator>Huckleberry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 23:08:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anna, nicely said.</description>
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		<title>By: Anna</title>
		<link>http://www.marksdailyapple.com/obesity-cancer-link/#comment-30289</link>
		<dc:creator>Anna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 23:02:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that the main problem *isn&#039;t* that the public isn&#039;t getting the message (they got the message, but it was the wrong message about how to achieve weight control), but that the experts *just don&#039;t understand or want to truly interpret the scientific data*.  Instead they substitute ideological bias and give advice for sloth and gluttony as if that&#039;s all that counts.  

I didn&#039;t fully understand that (but long suspected it) until I read Gary Taubes&#039; book, Good Calories, Bad Calories: Challenging the Conventional Wisdom on Diet, Weight Control and Disease.  Taubes&#039; excellent review of the history of nutrition studies, physiology, and biochemistry lays it out well - the contemporary &quot;science of nutrition and obesity&quot; we are hammered with isn&#039;t rigorous, isn&#039;t even all that scientific, and even when well done and the data says something rather compelling (like it isn&#039;t merely calories in, calories out or that driving insulin up with carbohydrates increases fat storage and inhibits the release of body fat for energy), the conclusion and subsequent advice is something else entirely - just a rehash of &quot;excess fat storage is due to sloth and gluttony&quot;.  Now they&#039;re just simplifying it into Eat Less, Move More, like we are slothful and gluttonous morons.  

So now we&#039;re stuck with a couple generations of lousy &quot;checkbook science&quot; and &quot;consensus science&quot; ( a recipe for incorrect and biased conclusions) and no one seemed to notice that it wasn&#039;t even &quot;hard&quot; science until recently.  The ones who noticed were marginalized, silenced, and ignored.  The low fat message has stuck like glue, nearly everyone is hooked on processed cheap convenience foods, and the parade of highly indoctrinated experts still harangues us on sloth and gluttony, but now they&#039;re also hitting us with diseases of sloth and gluttony, that they helped inflate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that the main problem *isn&#8217;t* that the public isn&#8217;t getting the message (they got the message, but it was the wrong message about how to achieve weight control), but that the experts *just don&#8217;t understand or want to truly interpret the scientific data*.  Instead they substitute ideological bias and give advice for sloth and gluttony as if that&#8217;s all that counts.  </p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t fully understand that (but long suspected it) until I read Gary Taubes&#8217; book, Good Calories, Bad Calories: Challenging the Conventional Wisdom on Diet, Weight Control and Disease.  Taubes&#8217; excellent review of the history of nutrition studies, physiology, and biochemistry lays it out well &#8211; the contemporary &#8220;science of nutrition and obesity&#8221; we are hammered with isn&#8217;t rigorous, isn&#8217;t even all that scientific, and even when well done and the data says something rather compelling (like it isn&#8217;t merely calories in, calories out or that driving insulin up with carbohydrates increases fat storage and inhibits the release of body fat for energy), the conclusion and subsequent advice is something else entirely &#8211; just a rehash of &#8220;excess fat storage is due to sloth and gluttony&#8221;.  Now they&#8217;re just simplifying it into Eat Less, Move More, like we are slothful and gluttonous morons.  </p>
<p>So now we&#8217;re stuck with a couple generations of lousy &#8220;checkbook science&#8221; and &#8220;consensus science&#8221; ( a recipe for incorrect and biased conclusions) and no one seemed to notice that it wasn&#8217;t even &#8220;hard&#8221; science until recently.  The ones who noticed were marginalized, silenced, and ignored.  The low fat message has stuck like glue, nearly everyone is hooked on processed cheap convenience foods, and the parade of highly indoctrinated experts still harangues us on sloth and gluttony, but now they&#8217;re also hitting us with diseases of sloth and gluttony, that they helped inflate.</p>
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		<title>By: Migraineur</title>
		<link>http://www.marksdailyapple.com/obesity-cancer-link/#comment-30283</link>
		<dc:creator>Migraineur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 22:36:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>P.S. I read the recommendations of the study authors as, &quot;If the message doesn&#039;t have its intended effect, don&#039;t question the message.  Just shout louder.&quot;

&lt;i&gt;Efforts will be needed to increase education on diet and physical activity, train health professionals, restrict advertisements of high-calorie and low-nutrient foods, limit access to unhealthy foods in schools and workplaces, levy taxes on sugary drinks and other foods high in calories, fat, or sugar, lower the prices of health foods, and promote physical activity in schools and workplaces.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S. I read the recommendations of the study authors as, &#8220;If the message doesn&#8217;t have its intended effect, don&#8217;t question the message.  Just shout louder.&#8221;</p>
<p><i>Efforts will be needed to increase education on diet and physical activity, train health professionals, restrict advertisements of high-calorie and low-nutrient foods, limit access to unhealthy foods in schools and workplaces, levy taxes on sugary drinks and other foods high in calories, fat, or sugar, lower the prices of health foods, and promote physical activity in schools and workplaces.</i></p>
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