Comments on: Why Lean Meat? http://www.marksdailyapple.com/lean-meat/ Serving up health and fitness insights (daily, of course) with a side of irreverence. Sat, 21 Nov 2009 11:51:54 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.1 hourly 1 By: Smart Fuel: Lamb | Mark's Daily Apple http://www.marksdailyapple.com/lean-meat/#comment-402632 Smart Fuel: Lamb | Mark's Daily Apple Fri, 12 Jun 2009 22:36:25 +0000 http://www.marksdailyapple.com/lean-meat/#comment-402632 [...] But why choose lamb? Nutritionally speaking, lamb is an excellent source of a nutritionally complete protein, meaning that it contains all 8 essential amino acids, as well as vitamins and minerals. Specifically, lamb is an excellent source of several B vitamins, niacin, zinc, and as with all red meats, is an excellent source of iron. In addition, lamb is one of the richest sources of conjugated linoleic acid (CLA), a compound manufactured naturally in the stomachs of cows and sheep (but not humans) that is thought to spur antioxidant activity and may also have anti-cancer properties. Still leaning towards regular old beef? Consider this: When compared to other meats, lamb contains very little fat in the grain of the meat, with what fat there is generally located on the outside edges of the meat where it can easily be trimmed away without compromising flavor or tenderness. We’re not anti-fat, but at least here you have a choice to match your own preferences. [...] [...] But why choose lamb? Nutritionally speaking, lamb is an excellent source of a nutritionally complete protein, meaning that it contains all 8 essential amino acids, as well as vitamins and minerals. Specifically, lamb is an excellent source of several B vitamins, niacin, zinc, and as with all red meats, is an excellent source of iron. In addition, lamb is one of the richest sources of conjugated linoleic acid (CLA), a compound manufactured naturally in the stomachs of cows and sheep (but not humans) that is thought to spur antioxidant activity and may also have anti-cancer properties. Still leaning towards regular old beef? Consider this: When compared to other meats, lamb contains very little fat in the grain of the meat, with what fat there is generally located on the outside edges of the meat where it can easily be trimmed away without compromising flavor or tenderness. We’re not anti-fat, but at least here you have a choice to match your own preferences. [...]

]]> By: What’s Wrong With The Zone Diet? | Mark's Daily Apple http://www.marksdailyapple.com/lean-meat/#comment-398695 What’s Wrong With The Zone Diet? | Mark's Daily Apple Thu, 04 Jun 2009 23:26:24 +0000 http://www.marksdailyapple.com/lean-meat/#comment-398695 [...] the commandment about only the leanest meats. Sure, I get the fat-toxin connection, and it’s why I tend to often (but not always) choose relatively leaner meats, but this has nothing to do with The Zone recommendation. Dr. Sears, pardon my saying, just seems [...] [...] the commandment about only the leanest meats. Sure, I get the fat-toxin connection, and it’s why I tend to often (but not always) choose relatively leaner meats, but this has nothing to do with The Zone recommendation. Dr. Sears, pardon my saying, just seems [...]

]]> By: Bruce K http://www.marksdailyapple.com/lean-meat/#comment-158696 Bruce K Wed, 10 Sep 2008 18:35:13 +0000 http://www.marksdailyapple.com/lean-meat/#comment-158696 Sorry, the link above was for whole chicken with the skin - 3.2% PUFAs by weight. Here's the data for whole chicken, without the skin - 0.7% PUFAs by weight, the same as 70/30 ground beef. I have not ever seen 70/30 hamburger. The fattiest kind I've seen is 73/27, which has 10% less fat. So a person eating the fattiest beef is better off in omega-6 intake than someone eating chicken minus the skin. Keep things in perspective. Chicken, broilers or fryers, meat only, raw http://www.nutritiondata.com/facts/poultry-products/650/2 Sorry, the link above was for whole chicken with the skin – 3.2% PUFAs by weight. Here’s the data for whole chicken, without the skin – 0.7% PUFAs by weight, the same as 70/30 ground beef. I have not ever seen 70/30 hamburger. The fattiest kind I’ve seen is 73/27, which has 10% less fat. So a person eating the fattiest beef is better off in omega-6 intake than someone eating chicken minus the skin. Keep things in perspective.

Chicken, broilers or fryers, meat only, raw
http://www.nutritiondata.com/facts/poultry-products/650/2

]]> By: Bruce K http://www.marksdailyapple.com/lean-meat/#comment-158675 Bruce K Wed, 10 Sep 2008 18:22:16 +0000 http://www.marksdailyapple.com/lean-meat/#comment-158675 Something that people seem to be ignoring is that the amount of PUFAs in meat varies from about 2% in beef to 21-23% in chicken/turkey skin. Chicken has 10 times more PUFAs than beef, so if you eat skinless chicken you get the same amount of PUFAs as you do in 30% fat ground beef. Chicken, broilers or fryers, meat and skin, raw http://www.nutritiondata.com/facts/poultry-products/645/2 Beef, ground, 70% lean meat / 30% fat, raw http://www.nutritiondata.com/facts/beef-products/8004/1 Duck, goose, and pork fat have about half as much PUFAs as conventional chicken and turkey fat. And let's not forget where most Americans get most of the omega-6 fats from - processed vegetable oils. Not chicken, not turkey, not duck, not goose, not pork, not eggs, not lamb, not butter, not beef... Nuts and seeds are also extremely high in omega-6 PUFAs usually. All except coconut (1%), macadamia (2%), and hazelnut (9-10%) have more than pork or duck or goose fat. So, shouldn't people be warned not to eat lots of nuts and seeds, and not to eat ANY PUFA oils, before they worry about eating the grain-fed meat or taking very unstable fish oils? Cordain's emphasis on lean meat does not make any sense when you consider that chicken fat has 10 x more PUFAs than beef fat and 8-10 times more than butter fat. Plus, nuts and seed oils are far more dangerous than even chicken fat, IMO. Something that people seem to be ignoring is that the amount of PUFAs in meat varies from about 2% in beef to 21-23% in chicken/turkey skin. Chicken has 10 times more PUFAs than beef, so if you eat skinless chicken you get the same amount of PUFAs as you do in 30% fat ground beef.

Chicken, broilers or fryers, meat and skin, raw
http://www.nutritiondata.com/facts/poultry-products/645/2

Beef, ground, 70% lean meat / 30% fat, raw
http://www.nutritiondata.com/facts/beef-products/8004/1

Duck, goose, and pork fat have about half as much PUFAs as conventional chicken and turkey fat. And let’s not forget where most Americans get most of the omega-6 fats from – processed vegetable oils. Not chicken, not turkey, not duck, not goose, not pork, not eggs, not lamb, not butter, not beef…

Nuts and seeds are also extremely high in omega-6 PUFAs usually. All except coconut (1%), macadamia (2%), and hazelnut (9-10%) have more than pork or duck or goose fat. So, shouldn’t people be warned not to eat lots of nuts and seeds, and not to eat ANY PUFA oils, before they worry about eating the grain-fed meat or taking very unstable fish oils?

Cordain’s emphasis on lean meat does not make any sense when you consider that chicken fat has 10 x more PUFAs than beef fat and 8-10 times more than butter fat. Plus, nuts and seed oils are far more dangerous than even chicken fat, IMO.

]]> By: Mark’s Daily Apple » Blog Archive » Top 10 Ways to Get Your Meat On http://www.marksdailyapple.com/lean-meat/#comment-35544 Mark’s Daily Apple » Blog Archive » Top 10 Ways to Get Your Meat On Tue, 18 Mar 2008 17:04:34 +0000 http://www.marksdailyapple.com/lean-meat/#comment-35544 [...] Why Lean Meat? [...] [...] Why Lean Meat? [...]

]]> By: Mark’s Daily Apple » Blog Archive » The Definitive Guide to Fats http://www.marksdailyapple.com/lean-meat/#comment-28951 Mark’s Daily Apple » Blog Archive » The Definitive Guide to Fats Wed, 13 Feb 2008 20:57:32 +0000 http://www.marksdailyapple.com/lean-meat/#comment-28951 [...] takes us back to the question of lean meat. If you recall, my reasoning in offering some support for lean meats (in lieu of fattier meats that our ancestors ate, as a number of you reminded me) was the fatty [...] [...] takes us back to the question of lean meat. If you recall, my reasoning in offering some support for lean meats (in lieu of fattier meats that our ancestors ate, as a number of you reminded me) was the fatty [...]

]]> By: Richard Nikoley http://www.marksdailyapple.com/lean-meat/#comment-28684 Richard Nikoley Tue, 12 Feb 2008 19:28:22 +0000 http://www.marksdailyapple.com/lean-meat/#comment-28684 Mark: Catching up on a huge backlog of posts, but man am I glad to see this. When I fist found Cordian's website several weeks ago and read the FAQ, I was startled by the negativity about fat. Yea, like hunter-gatherers trimmed their steaks of fat... My own experience is that as I have incorporated intermittent fasting into my whole routine over the past couple of months my appetite has been changing dramatically. At first it was a hunger for nice big steaks to the exclusion of everything else, however, over time it has moved squarely to one thing: animal fat. I do pretty intense fasts, 30 hours, with a intense workout at the end, before eating. I can definitely see me coming around to 70-80% from, fat, 15-20% protein, and just a bit of carbs, infrequently. Mark:

Catching up on a huge backlog of posts, but man am I glad to see this. When I fist found Cordian’s website several weeks ago and read the FAQ, I was startled by the negativity about fat. Yea, like hunter-gatherers trimmed their steaks of fat…

My own experience is that as I have incorporated intermittent fasting into my whole routine over the past couple of months my appetite has been changing dramatically. At first it was a hunger for nice big steaks to the exclusion of everything else, however, over time it has moved squarely to one thing: animal fat. I do pretty intense fasts, 30 hours, with a intense workout at the end, before eating. I can definitely see me coming around to 70-80% from, fat, 15-20% protein, and just a bit of carbs, infrequently.

]]> By: Natalie http://www.marksdailyapple.com/lean-meat/#comment-23624 Natalie Wed, 16 Jan 2008 22:16:06 +0000 http://www.marksdailyapple.com/lean-meat/#comment-23624 @ Kim: The closest farm that sells beef is 5 hours away, so I really don't think that's too practical. Yes, I know I can order off the internet - my point is simply that for some people it really *is* hard or expensive to get grass-fed beef! @ Kim:
The closest farm that sells beef is 5 hours away, so I really don’t think that’s too practical. Yes, I know I can order off the internet – my point is simply that for some people it really *is* hard or expensive to get grass-fed beef!

]]> By: maurile http://www.marksdailyapple.com/lean-meat/#comment-23617 maurile Wed, 16 Jan 2008 21:25:31 +0000 http://www.marksdailyapple.com/lean-meat/#comment-23617 Thanks for making this post, Mark. I was kind of shocked to read your previous post recommending "lean meats," as I didn't have you pegged as someone who'd succumbed to that nonsense. (I almost made a comment similar to markus's, but didn't have the time.) Also, for those who don't want to buy a whole side or quarter of grass-fed meat at a time, you can get much smaller cuts at www.grasslandbeef.com. Thanks for making this post, Mark. I was kind of shocked to read your previous post recommending “lean meats,” as I didn’t have you pegged as someone who’d succumbed to that nonsense. (I almost made a comment similar to markus’s, but didn’t have the time.)

Also, for those who don’t want to buy a whole side or quarter of grass-fed meat at a time, you can get much smaller cuts at http://www.grasslandbeef.com.

]]> By: Matt Metzgar http://www.marksdailyapple.com/lean-meat/#comment-23600 Matt Metzgar Wed, 16 Jan 2008 19:26:12 +0000 http://www.marksdailyapple.com/lean-meat/#comment-23600 I've been thinking about this issue a good deal myself. It would have been very difficult for hunter-gatherers to get enough total calories through lean protein alone. I just wrote about this the other week (sorry, not trying to be self-promotional): http://www.mattmetzgar.com/matt_metzgar/2008/01/the-big-fat-pay.html I’ve been thinking about this issue a good deal myself. It would have been very difficult for hunter-gatherers to get enough total calories through lean protein alone. I just wrote about this the other week (sorry, not trying to be self-promotional):

http://www.mattmetzgar.com/matt_metzgar/2008/01/the-big-fat-pay.html

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