Comments on: Reader Response: Insulin Index http://www.marksdailyapple.com/insulin-index/ Serving up health and fitness insights (daily, of course) with a side of irreverence. Fri, 21 Nov 2008 09:58:42 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: Mark Sisson http://www.marksdailyapple.com/insulin-index/#comment-147779 Mark Sisson Thu, 04 Sep 2008 00:16:24 +0000 http://www.marksdailyapple.com/?p=1192#comment-147779 Russ, great reply to Jimmy's question. My jury is still out on dairy. Russ, great reply to Jimmy’s question. My jury is still out on dairy.

]]> By: Russ http://www.marksdailyapple.com/insulin-index/#comment-146850 Russ Wed, 03 Sep 2008 13:35:03 +0000 http://www.marksdailyapple.com/?p=1192#comment-146850 Jimmmy: There are many explations for the insulinogenic nature of milk. Here are some ideas for you: 1) Lactose is converted to galactose (a blood sugar similar to glucose) which causes insulin spikes just like glucose. 2) Protein also causes a lesser insulin response so the whey protein is certainly a contributing factor. Casein protein (also found in milk) causes a very low response because it takes a long time to digest. I remember reading that casein protein doesn't always digest fully and might even cause health problems because of this. Other things to think about when it comes to milk are: The chemicals/hormones injected into most cattle to increase size and production of milk (specifically Insulin-like Growth Factor I (IgF-I) which is used by scientists to grow cancer cells, and an abundance in the body is not a good thing.) For more on these see: www.notmilk.com and/or google: Milk - The Deadly Poison by Robert Cohen. Plus, cow milk is for calves, nature never meant it for human consumption so if you want to be strict Paleo/Primal then limiting intake might be a good idea. To answer your question about blood sugar spikes and health. The short answer is: yes, it does matter (if your goal is health and longevity) to minimise insulin spikes. The long (very long) answer can be found here: http://drbass.com/rosedale2.html it's a great article! Hope that all helps!!! I'm currently researching the hormonal systems etc. of metabolism so it might not be perferct but at least it's fresh in my mind! Russ Jimmmy:
There are many explations for the insulinogenic nature of milk. Here are some ideas for you:

1) Lactose is converted to galactose (a blood sugar similar to glucose) which causes insulin spikes just like glucose.

2) Protein also causes a lesser insulin response so the whey protein is certainly a contributing factor. Casein protein (also found in milk) causes a very low response because it takes a long time to digest. I remember reading that casein protein doesn’t always digest fully and might even cause health problems because of this.

Other things to think about when it comes to milk are:
The chemicals/hormones injected into most cattle to increase size and production of milk (specifically Insulin-like Growth Factor I (IgF-I) which is used by scientists to grow cancer cells, and an abundance in the body is not a good thing.) For more on these see: http://www.notmilk.com and/or google: Milk - The Deadly Poison by Robert Cohen.

Plus, cow milk is for calves, nature never meant it for human consumption so if you want to be strict Paleo/Primal then limiting intake might be a good idea.

To answer your question about blood sugar spikes and health. The short answer is: yes, it does matter (if your goal is health and longevity) to minimise insulin spikes. The long (very long) answer can be found here: http://drbass.com/rosedale2.html it’s a great article!

Hope that all helps!!! I’m currently researching the hormonal systems etc. of metabolism so it might not be perferct but at least it’s fresh in my mind!

Russ

]]> By: jimmy http://www.marksdailyapple.com/insulin-index/#comment-146193 jimmy Wed, 03 Sep 2008 01:34:18 +0000 http://www.marksdailyapple.com/?p=1192#comment-146193 Researchers tell us that milk is insulinogenic. That is, it causes an insulin spike that cannot be explained merely by its concentration of carbs. Some people attribute this to the whey protein. But what does this all this mean for health? Is this good or bad? I have heard that it can be helpful for diabetics to prevent blood sugar spikes. What about everybody else? And what if you drink milk without any additional carbs, wouldn't that theoretically cause short-term low blood sugar? And finally, I'm curious to find out how milk compares with milk-derived products, like cottage cheese (which I love) and yoghurt. Cottage cheese, for example, has almost no carbs (especially lactose), but I assume it still has whey protein. Researchers tell us that milk is insulinogenic. That is, it causes an insulin spike that cannot be explained merely by its concentration of carbs. Some people attribute this to the whey protein. But what does this all this mean for health? Is this good or bad? I have heard that it can be helpful for diabetics to prevent blood sugar spikes. What about everybody else? And what if you drink milk without any additional carbs, wouldn’t that theoretically cause short-term low blood sugar? And finally, I’m curious to find out how milk compares with milk-derived products, like cottage cheese (which I love) and yoghurt. Cottage cheese, for example, has almost no carbs (especially lactose), but I assume it still has whey protein.

]]> By: Reader Pete http://www.marksdailyapple.com/insulin-index/#comment-94040 Reader Pete Sun, 06 Jul 2008 01:13:21 +0000 http://www.marksdailyapple.com/?p=1192#comment-94040 Mark- Belated thanks for this post. Interesting stuff. It looks like acute insulin spikes are probably not as detrimental as chronic ones, and happen for different reasons. Mark-
Belated thanks for this post. Interesting stuff. It looks like acute insulin spikes are probably not as detrimental as chronic ones, and happen for different reasons.

]]> By: Mark Sisson http://www.marksdailyapple.com/insulin-index/#comment-92370 Mark Sisson Mon, 30 Jun 2008 21:07:25 +0000 http://www.marksdailyapple.com/?p=1192#comment-92370 Marc, The people who did the insulin index only tried it on a few foods. Whey powder wasn't one, so we don't know if it causes a spike. If it did, it probably wouldn't by itself promote fat storage. Marc,

The people who did the insulin index only tried it on a few foods. Whey powder wasn’t one, so we don’t know if it causes a spike. If it did, it probably wouldn’t by itself promote fat storage.

]]> By: marc s. http://www.marksdailyapple.com/insulin-index/#comment-91998 marc s. Sat, 28 Jun 2008 22:22:44 +0000 http://www.marksdailyapple.com/?p=1192#comment-91998 Does whey protein isolate powder, one without any carbs, cause an insulin spike? If so, does the rise in blood sugar give way to any excess protein consumed being converted to fat for storage? Thanks for the help. Does whey protein isolate powder, one without any carbs, cause an insulin spike? If so, does the rise in blood sugar give way to any excess protein consumed being converted to fat for storage? Thanks for the help.

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