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lil_earthmomma
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I can't believe it, I'm losing weight like crazy!!! Since starting PB 6 weeks ago, I've lost 17 lbs!!! I'm at 159 lbs today. Wow... I'm so excited. :)

Today I ate some coconut flour banana bread for breakfast with hazelnut butter. MMmmmm... not very survivalish I suppose...

I'm thinking of having the leftover pulled pork with some eggs on top for lunch, and then steak and salad for a late dinner. I'm having 3 meals because I'm going to be doing cardio with a friend, and feel like I need the extra protein.

Posted 4 months ago #
Jessica
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Congrats, lil! That is SO cool! I'm with you today...I feel like eating all day! I try to listen to my body and not fast when it doesn't feel right but maybe I've just got more free time this week and it's not hunger but boredom compelling me to eat!
Anyway, congrats again on your great progress!

Posted 4 months ago #
NorthernMonkeyGirl
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Wow lil_EM! That's incredible!

I got pounced upon by a bag of dried coconut...having plugged it into fitday I saw why I wasn't able to stop munching...!! (over 1000 calories!!!! And 88g carbs!! EEEK)
But it's all gone now, so back on to survival week. I think my relaxed weekend is having an effect that is lasting far too long.

Posted 4 months ago #
lil_earthmomma
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Thanks! You guys rock!

Posted 4 months ago #
FlyNavyWife
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Wow earthmom you are seriously doing awesomely!!! :)

And NM, 1000 calories of coconut? haha! How crazy...good thing it's gone!

Posted 4 months ago #
Indiscreet
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NorthernMonkey - that happened to me. And it gave me such bad stomach ache you wouldn't believe. I have to add dessicated coconut to the list of things I can't keep in the house. It's a long list. :/

Yesterday's food was the same as Monday's, except I had a roast chicken quarter for lunch instead of tuna.

I don't think I can do the all animal protein thing today as I have to take someone to lunch at work. I can keep pretty much primal, but the best I can usually manage is chicken salad.

Posted 4 months ago #
Jessica
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I need to vent a little bit. I am having a hard time this week with my fasting. I usually fast from 5pm-noon the next day, but this week I decided to change it up and fast through the evening meal. Yesterday I ate from 6am-2pm and fasted after that but was really hungry for portions of that and went to bed at 8:45! Woke up at 5:45 ravenous and have eaten a bit already and it's only 6:45.
As has been posted elsewhere here on MDA, some of us that do IF a lot need to be mindful of where the line is. I am one of those people that pushes myself a little too hard and I worry that I am not getting enough food sometimes. I just feel torn when I am trying to do a survival week, so I "need" to IF one meal a day, but at the same time I allowing myself to get this hungry and perhaps not eat enough calories. I forget that listening to my body comes first because I am afraid of backing off and feeling like I cheated.
Today I may not IF just to get myself back to my normal 5pm-12pm fasting schedule and see if that resets my hunger issues.
Also, I am about to get my period and I wonder if I any of you find that you are hungrier or have a harder time IFing right before you get your period.
Thanks for listening!

Posted 4 months ago #
hannahc
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Oh jessher don't push too hard!! I'm one of the people that talked about exactly what you're saying, and finally had to realize that IF means INTERMITTENT!! For me that means if I HAVE to miss a meal I'm not going to die, but otherwise I need to eat when I'm hungry. Which I've learned is basically 2 times a day, sometimes 1. So I end up eating fewer meals, but usually still a decent amount of calories. Learning to respond to hunger appropriately is probably the most useful tool I've found so far, because my body is slowly learning that I'll eat when it asks me to, but will wait until it asks again to eat again.

And I am usually ravenous the few days before my period, it's awful! I hate being hungry all the time, it reminds me of my healthy-whole-grain days! I can eat 2,500-3,000 calories easy if I'm not careful on pre-period days, and that's still restraining myself.

And for my day yesterday....almost a failure, but not the worst :) I ate my soup for lunch, then was feeling great before dinner. But I had to stop to pick up spices and went into this little mediterranean shop. Besides a million spices, they have Michel Cluizel chocolate, and they just got in the 99%...I was drawn to it like a moth to a flame...I really didn't want to pay $4 for a dinky 1.05 oz bar, but I did. And then I thought "I'll save it until Saturday!" which you can guess how that turned out...I ate the whole thing :) It was little though! Anyway, it was good, but not good enough to spend $4 for that little thing when I can get 3 times more of the ghirardelli 100% for $2.50.

Then meatball dinner was amazing, and after that I tore into the almond butter...3 tablespoons! Then 2 coconut bars. All the things I was trying to avoid yesterday! Oh well. Still came in at 42 carbs, it was just a lot of calories. And dinner took so long to make that I didn't get to do my pilates video.

Today is:

B: Meatloaf with Ketchup (homemade), black coffee, yum!
L: IF
D: ...I think a chuck roast with au jus and sauteed mushrooms. Maybe shrimp scampi with asparagus though. We'll see.

WO: Lifting at the gym, with tabata sprints at the end

Posted 4 months ago #
misathemeb
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le sigh! ladies seriously i need to reign it in! good news not a caloric disaster yesterday topped out at (1394cals) but bad news was 70g of carbs (and peanut butter oi :( hubs KNOWS it's a weakness. i managed to avoid the puppy chow he made (chex mix +sugar+chocolate+pb) but had to get 2 spoons of the brown stuff!

back on track today FOR SERIOUS.
i need more fat? is that how you kick a craving? how many grams do you usually eat a day? i've been averaging 50-70g fat
TODAY'S PLAN:
B: protein shake with carnation instant breakfast & 10 frozen bloobs with almond milk
L: easter island/tribal dude BAS
D: turkey burger, cucumber, steamed veggies with EVOO
800cals
fat: 46g
carbs: 32g
protein: 72g
exercise: 2 speedy miles since i should have plenty of fuel from yesterdays peanut butter fest lol

Posted 4 months ago #
DebFM
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Yesterday: IF'd brekkie, just had coffee w/ cream; lunch was 1 salmon patty & some hot homemade chicken stock; supper was chicken curry (it was a chicken day) & I had one TBS almond butter. Even did a body weight workout.

Posted 4 months ago #
DebFM
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I'm curious - how many of you have SO's that drag bad, bad stuff into the house? Mine has been getting really bad lately. He works 5 minutes from Trader Joe's & so does a lot of shopping for us. His off-list purchases have included hummus, arancini (rice balls), slim pretzels, & fudge (homemade from a farmstand). I'm thinking he's in for some serious punishment soon! ;P

Posted 4 months ago #
PrimalK
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Well, my OH isn't primal yet, so eats stuff that I won't. Bit it's fine though - I don't want any of it anyway!

Posted 4 months ago #
misathemeb
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my hubs eats like a french man. loves wine, cheese, dark chocolates, crusty bread. he's moderate in his intake though which is why i think he is a beanpole! he's got more self control than i so i have to be very deliberate about portions if i partake in said guilty pleasures :)

Posted 4 months ago #
FlyNavyWife
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DebFM, mine eats all sorts of bad stuff when he's out alone or when we go out to eat, but he rarely drags it into the house. About the "worst" thing he'll do is ask me if I want to split a dessert in a restaurant. I don't always, but sometimes I do and it's a delicious 20% moment.

Though I must say he's gotten really good about eating more primally on his own. It's not like he's rebelling - he really loves primal eating. Just sometimes a sandwich is appetizing to him or a burger is appealing and he doesn't want to knife-and-fork it like I do. It's not like he's eating platesfull of pasta.

Posted 4 months ago #
FlyNavyWife
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misathemeb my fat grams usually hover around 100g a day. Less if I'm IFing and limiting portion sizes, more if I'm just eating whatever I feel like. I cook with a lot of fat (coconut oil, butter, bacon grease, EVOO) and eat beef and fish pretty often. Also, veggies usually get doused in butter or EVOO if they have been steamed rather than cooked in oil/fat.
And there's the full-fat dairy, nuts, etc. All that fat adds up for me. Yum!

Posted 4 months ago #
NorthernMonkeyGirl
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I tend to find I'm hungrier now it's getting colder, and yes at certain times of the month too!

Back on track today - so far at least! - fewer carbs meant less hunger and no attacks of the munchies! Only 32.5g carbs today.

Posted 4 months ago #
Indiscreet
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I hate PMS cravings. :/

Had a small blip today.

Breakfast: Can of tuna, EVOO, dried laver
Lunch: Well, a prospective employee came in and me and a colleague were supposed to take her to lunch, but turns out she'd eaten, so we ended up going to *$ instead. I was really Jonesing for one of their special Christmas gingerbread lattes but I had a regular latte with sugar free syrup. Not primal, but could've been worse.
When I finally got to eat, I got a chicken quarter again. The local Co-Op sells them pretty cheap and it's an easy no carb lunch.
Dinner: Omelette - added some cheese, I have to admit - with streaky bacon.

Still a low carb day but yeah there was some dairy.

Posted 4 months ago #
Jessica
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Well, I went kind of crazy today. Ended up eating three big meals..
Breakfast: Pulled pork with two fried eggs
Lunch: Coconut crusted tilapia at a restaurant...who knows if it had breadcrumbs or any other carbs but it was YUMMY, with veggies
Dinner: Mexican restaurant! Taco salad with beef, lettuce and tomatoes,sour cream and cheese (hanging head in shame).
I also had coffee with coconut milk twice today. AND....I ate M&Ms when I got home from dinner. STUPID PMS CRAVINGS!!

I think I needed a day off from thinking about food too much. I have been trying to be very strict because I am going on vacation next week and will spend lots of time in my bikini, but it was just too much! Hopefully I have satisfied my need to be slack about it and can get back to normal tomorrow.

Posted 4 months ago #
misathemeb
Member

yesterday's workout was great 2 speedy miles and some crossfit-esque stuff
total cals=1102
fat: 60g
protein:93g
carbs:56g (so close but at least it's better than earlier in the week

i think i'm going to lay off the nuts next week & see what happens!

Posted 4 months ago #
hannahc
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Oh ladies, I don't even want to tell you how much I caved :) Let's just say I won't need cookies again for a while!

Yesterday was a weird/moody day, when it shouldn't have been. I wasn't angry, but I was a little bit sad...hubs is usually home for dinner and for a couple of hours after, but then goes back to school to practice at night (he's still a masters student getting his degree in trombone performance so he practices 4-6 hours per day, in 3 segments), so I'm used to having some alone time during the evenings/nights. He complains if he doesn't go back to practice, so I usually try and remind him to do it. He prefers to stay home with me, but if he does, then the next week he freaks out because he didn't practice enough. So I've started to remind him that he said he wanted to go practice, and kind of help him out the door so that he'll feel better.

But anyway, I was feeling weird yesterday, and he actually decided to stay home all evening with me. So I didn't do my WO like I expected to because I want to cuddle with him instead of do a DVD, and I didn't get a few other things done too and it felt weird. Although we did get to stay up and talk about 5,000 different things til at least 1am (I didn't look at the clock, just so I wouldn't know how late I was up!), which is literally one of my favorite things to do :) I'm not upset about missing a workout in lieu of hanging with my best friend, it was just weird for me to be feeling sad yesterday and I'm trying to figure out what it was.

Aaanyway, tonight is book club (once a month, it's a fun dinner party!), and I let the hostess know earlier that I can't eat bread anymore. I emailed her to let her know that I "realized that I am sensitive to wheat" about 5 months ago, but not to do anything special because I find it easy enough to just eat meat and veggies and avoid the bread products. She was so gracious, and wrote me back right away saying thank you for letting her know, and that she was planning to make a "meat lovers lasagna", so she would just keep out extra meaty sauce for me :) Which sounds amazing by the way! And I mentioned the dairy sensitivity too, for milk and ice cream anyway, so there's my out for dessert. Cheese is fine for my tummy, so I let her know that as well, so dinner should be great with meaty sauce and salad. I wanted to let her know ahead of time just so I wouldn't have to refuse something and make her feel bad, since I know we all care a lot about making nice meals for book club. And it's always really fun to discuss the books with this group, we read "The Five Love Languages" this month which was fun to discuss with hubs too :)

I'm taking a mental break from Survivor Week today and tomorrow, but will be back to getting to my goals probably by Saturday. I definitely am starting to feel this as a lifestyle rather than a temporary fix, and am finally getting used to relaxing a bit here and there, which I think is a very good thing for me over the long run. (or walk, rather :)

Whew, that was quite the novel, I hope everyone has good plans for the weekend!

Posted 4 months ago #
Indiscreet
Member

Hope you feel better soon, Hannah.

Yesterday:

Breakfast: Tuna, EVOO, dried laver. Yep, same breakfast all week. It's usually a protein shake but I'm trying to do this with actual food.

Lunch: Tuna salad (tuna, oil, olives, rocket, chilli - most of it is tuna, though)/

Dinner: Beef mince in tomato and red wine sauce. I did add some cheese on top as it didn't seem very much.

My waist is looking a bit better today - and I feel a lot better than the last Survival Week, where I cut back too much. I don't think IF is for me.

Posted 4 months ago #
misathemeb
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yay yesterday was pretty good for me!
total cals: 958
fat: 56g
protein: 83g
carbs: 36g
exercise: 24min tabata squats, burpees, walking planks, pike ups etc.
little bit sore today from that!

todays plan:
B: greek yogurt, walnuts, unsweetened coconut, bloobs & black coffee
L: BAS with chicken
D: TBD, i'm hoping we go out for tapas or korean bbq
exercise: rest :) maybe sweeping or grocery shopping tonight with hubs

Posted 4 months ago #
NorthernMonkeyGirl
Member

This morning I IFed breakfast and suddenly my calories have dropped by half???
I'm not saying I won't eat anything else tonight though...but wow what a difference scoffing breakfast makes!
cals 624

fat 14.2

carb 44.4

protein 81.4

Oh I shoud clarify, I'm not stuffing my face on a morning - maybe have scrambled eggs or rollmop herring. I think I just get more hungry the more/earlier I eat?
Doe anyone else find this??

Posted 4 months ago #
FlyNavyWife
Member

Hubs is coming home tonight, finally, so my 2 week very low carb challenge is over.
It'll be fun to get back in the kitchen making more exciting things again... i've missed cooking! (and of course missed my husband too).

Posted 4 months ago #
hannahc
Member

Haha, FNW I was going to ask when he would be back! How was your experiment?

Posted 4 months ago #
Indiscreet
Member

Friday:

Breakfast: Tuna, EVOO, dried laver. Again.
I'm going to miss that seaweed when I finish the box (I brought it back from holiday in Korea and Japan)

Lunch: Chicken breast. Blueberries. I wasn't going to have any fruit this week but they were big, fat and juicy and on offer, so I "foraged" them.

Dinner: Beef mince in tomato and red wine sauce (the half I didn't eat yesterday). Two eggs and some cheese on top.

Northern Monkey - I dunno. Evening's my danger zone, irrespective of whether I eat breakfast or not. Now if I could IF evenings...I expect I'd lose quite a lot of weight.

Posted 4 months ago #
lil_earthmomma
Member

OMG DISASTER!!!

My friends bday is tomorrow, and my other friend wanted to bake a cake. I talked her into letting me help so that I could make the cake out of coconut flour. (The cake is lovely btw.) So for the icing I talked her into an italian buttercream, which though it has sugar, is full of egg whites and butter. She loved it, and so did I. I ended up "tasting" the icing ALOT. Like omg I feel sick alot. WTF is wrong with me!?! I couldn't stop eating it. :( I feel really yucky now. Sigh... why does sugar have to be so evil, but taste SO good?

Posted 4 months ago #
frogfarm
Member

Don't fret, momma -- stuff like this only reinforces the lesson, and reduces the odds of it happening again.

I just had my second 'carbmare', after almost six months ZC! This time I actually got as far as eating instead of just anticipating, except in the dream, I took two bites of blueberry ice cream, said "WTF AM I DOING", put it back in the freezer and washed the bowl and spoon...and promptly woke up. Now I'm wondering how much of a blood sugar spike my brain produced from thinking it just ate blueberry ice cream!

Posted 4 months ago #
Jessica
Member

I totally blew it. Ate bad on Wed, Thurs, and Friday. Got my period, though, so hopefully that higher level of hunger and craving for sweets will calm down.
No more Survival Weeks for me unless I really need one. Or at least not two in row. I am within a couple of pounds of goal body fat so there isn't any reason for me to keep pushing the dairy issue or stay under 50g carbs besides just doing it for my health.
I did learn I eat too much dairy and I had fun seeing how quickly going under 50g of carbs can show up in lost body fat.
Vacation starts on Wednesday and I will hopefully be enjoying lots of sun, adventure, and good food in Puerto Rico while in my small little bikini, thanks to survival week!

Posted 4 months ago #
NorthernMonkeyGirl
Member

Lil_EM - been there, done that! Just think of it as a lesson that needed re-learning :)

Jessica, have a brilliant holiday!

Frogfarm, I'm intrigued, could you actually taste the ice cream in your dream....?

Posted 3 months ago #