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Started 9 months ago by kjake55
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kjake55
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Ok, so I started breaking myself into this around June 15th and have a ton of questions and self-doubt about if I'm doing this right so far. Hopefully I am but if not I would appreciate any and all feedback. I'm also trying to break some old in-grained habits so I'm not adverse to an good ol' fashion (Grok like) kick in the butt! Anyway, I'm sure this won't be pretty to those of you who have been around for awhile but if you can put your teaching caps on I would really appreciate any direction you might have.

Since today isn't over, I'll start w/yesterday 6/23/09:

B: (5:30 am)1 omega-3 enhanced egg scambled, turkey cutlet (4 oz approx), berry-almond mix, 2 coffee w/ff 50/50 & sugar substitute
S: (8:30 am)Bannana
Mid AM: (10:30 am)1 HB Egg and smoothie (commercial product-can we "name-names" on this site?)
L: (12:00 pm)Chinese food: steamed chicken & veggies, no sauce, noodles or accouterments; just the chicken & veggies. several little cups of tea.
S: (3:30 pm)Peach
D: (7:oo-ish pm)Steak and salad
PM: (9:00-ish pm) handful of walnuts and (I know I failed here)...2 peppermint patties

fitness: walked the dog (1/2 mile); 15-minute walk at work on break (approx 8-10ths mile)

8 glasses water throughout the day, multi-v & 2 krill gell caps in early am w/B.

P.S. I just got my book yesterday so I'll have a better understanding of all this soon. In the meantime, anyone, how'd I do?

Posted 9 months ago #
DiabetesCanKissMyButt
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I would replace the half and half with heavy cream and nix the artificial sweetner. And the obvious with the peppermint patties. Love those. How you feeling so far?

Posted 8 months ago #
kjake55
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Hi D- Thank you for the input. Heavy cream huh? I'll have to try it. The patties and all other chocolate anythings are going to be hard to give up but I'm going to give it my best shot. Do you know of a decent substitute for when the cravings really kick in?

I'm surprised to say I don't really feel any different BUT I'm just getting started so hopefully I'll notice a difference once I'm really rocking with this. Thanks again for the insight. I appreciate all the help I can get getting started.

Posted 8 months ago #
DiabetesCanKissMyButt
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I know- I just recently crossed the heavy cream barrier myself. To minimize cravings it's important to keep the fat and protein up and eat when you're hungry- don't let hunger go too long or it will set you up for eating crap. Some people here eat 100% cacao chocolate or something like that but I try to stay away from anything that simulates candy because I just don't want to mess with it. Personal choice. Cravings will subside more when you get several weeks into it.

Posted 8 months ago #
kjake55
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Day 2 - here goes...
B:(5:30am) Banana, 1 scram egg, turkey cutlet, berry/almond mix

S:(10:00am) HB egg, walnuts

L:(12:00pm) 4 cups salad w 1/2 cup perdue chicken short cuts & red wine vinegar dressing. Peach

S:(3:00) Raw Revolution food bar (I'm not sure if it's primal or not-will post ingredients below, maybe someone can let me know)

Pre Workout:(5:00pm) Prograde protein drink made w/8oz water

Post Workout:(7:00pm)same as above (I take 1 drink 1-hour before workout and 1 drink within 1 hour after workout)

D:(8:00pm) Smoothie-8oz almond milk, 1 frozed banana, 1/4 cup fresh bluberry, 1 scoop whey protein, 6 ice cubes

S:(9:00ish pm) Yogurt w/almonds, 6 pcs dried apricots

fitness: dog walk, work walk, Crossfit WOD

+ my water M/V & krill gell caps

Critque anyone?

P.S. is this primal? 100% Raw-Organic Live Food Bar w/Sprouted Flax Seed-ingredients: cashew, date, agave nectar, almond & sprouted flax seed

Wow! Just noticed I went a day without candy...that's a pretty big thing for me.

Posted 8 months ago #
kjake55
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Day 3 -
B:(5:30am):Banana, 1 scram egg, turkey cutlet, berry/almond mix.

S:(10:30am):HB egg, apple.

L:(12:00pm):Egg drop soup, steamed chicken & veggies.

S:(3:15pm):Raw Revolution bar.

Pre-Workout:(5:00pm):Prograde protein drink made w/8 oz water.

Post-Workout:(7:15pm):Prograde protein drink made w/8 oz water.

D:(8:15pm):Ham & cheese lettuce wrap w/honey mustard, salad (with kidney beans & chicken mixed into it--I think the beans are no-no's?) w/rasberry-walnut dressing, cantalope

S: 1 peppermint patty--need to get those things out of the house!

Fitness: dog walk, work walk, CF WOD

water-coffee-tea, mv & krill

Posted 8 months ago #
kjake55
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The Weekend. Days 4-5-6.

I'm not going to post it all but I think I did ok.

Breakfasts were eggs, meat & fruit or a smoothie. Lunches were out at the lake or picnics, stuck w/breadless burgers, salads and veggies. Dinners were a catch-as-catch-can deal. Wasn't overly hungry so I had a little of whatever was there, meat/salad/fruit. Snacks consisted of dried apricots, fresh fruit, nuts and yogurt.

Bad weekend stuff: beer (4 Sat)(2 Sun), ice cream and a couple pcs candy. My sweet tooth is going to be the thing that kills me! I really need to find some suitable replacements.

Posted 8 months ago #
jostle
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I was a pretty bad sugar or candy addict upon starting primal and raw pure honey and fruit is what helped me transition. Over the time period of the last couple months I was able to cut it down to the point of only a couple pieces of fruit a day. Also, now fruit seems to be much sweeter, especially that one or two weekly banana.

Posted 8 months ago #
Miriam
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L-glutamine might help with your sweet tooth.

I would ditch the bars, they still contain sources of sugar so you will never get over your sugar cravings if you continue eating them. Sometimes it is just better to go cold turkey! Yes I know it’s hard but it might work. :)

Posted 8 months ago #
kjake55
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I had my last Raw bar last night before my workout and have decided not to pick up anymore at the co-op tonight. I have to tell you though, I'm going to miss them ALOT! Fruit and honey sounds like a nice mix and it's simple enough that I can have it when the sweet tooth ache starts and hopefully satisfy it before it gets way ahead of me. What is L-glutamine?

As for yesterday:

B:(5:30am): 2 scram eggs, 4 oz. turkey breast, berry/almond mix

S:(10:30):Apple

L:(12:00):4 cups salad w 1/2 cup chicken and kidney beans mixed in w/red wine vinegar dressing, handful of walnuts

S:(2:30):Yogurt. (3:00):Raw bar :-(

Pre W/O:(5:00):Prograde w/8 oz. water
Post W/O:(6:30):Prograde w/8 oz. water

D:(7:45):Bowl of roasted veggies, banana

S:(8:45):berries and almonds

Water, coffee, tea. M/V & krill
Walked w/dog and at work. CF WOD.

Funny thing, I feel I'm eating less but feeling fuller and better for longer periods of time. I think the large breakfast (as opposed the the oatmeal/fruit combo I used to eat) is the real hero in the story so far. I'll have to keep closer track of that moving forward.

Posted 8 months ago #
kjake55
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Day 8.

B:(5:30am):2 scram eggs, 4 oz turkey breast, berry/almond mix

S:(10:00am):Banana, 1 oz walnuts

L:(12:00):Egg drop soup, steamed chicken & veggies

S:(3:30):Apple

D:(6:30):4 oz turkey breast, roasted veggies, HB egg, 12 small strawberries

S:(9:00):2 peppermint patties...the last 2 that were in the house. Won't be replacing them next time I'm shopping.

Water, coffee, tea. M/V & Krill. Not much exercise, walked at work.

Posted 8 months ago #
kjake55
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Day 9

(B):(5:30am)Banana, 2 scram eggs, chiicken breast, strawberry/almond mix
(S):(11:30):1 oz walnuts, HB egg
(L):(12:00):4 cups salad w. 1/2 cup chicken & RWV, yogurt
(S):(3:00):Apple
Pre W/O:(5:00):Prograde w. 8 oz water
(D):(8:00):Whey Smoothie: 8 oz almond milk, 3/4 cup frozen berries, 1 scoop whey protein. 1/4 cup walnuts, 1 cup cooked cauliflower

Coffee,tea,water. M/V and Krill. Corssfit WOD.

Day 10.
B:(5:30):Banana, HB egg, chicken breast, 6 lg. strawberries
(S):(10:00):1oz walnuts, necterine
(L):(12:00):Egg drop soup, steamed chicken & veggies
(S):(2:30):Apple
(D):(6:00):Applebees:6 boneless hot wings, spinach salad w/grilled shrimp (no dressing), 1 1/2 lg glasses rasberry lemonade.

Coffee, tea, water. M/V and Krill. No exercise and I feel it today...tight, sluggish and stiff. Need to move around some more.

Started fitday analysis on my food journal the other day. Averaging 40% of my calories from carbs :-( I need to make SERIOUS changes. Today is 7/3/09 and my own personal independence day! I am commited to cutting the sugar from my diet!

Posted 8 months ago #
kjake55
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Exciting addendum to Day 10. (Exciting for me at least). Last night was the 1st night that I can remember (honestly, the very 1st night I remember) where I din't have anything to eat after dinner. No dessert, no snack, no munchies, nothing! Wow! P.S. I'm down 2.1 lbs since 6/15 when I started trying this. Hooray! :-)

Posted 8 months ago #
kjake55
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No post for 7/3/09--changed note books and forgot to bring it with me to log on line...

Posting July 4th weekend. Not too bad for a 1st timer w/a 3-day holiday even though I forgot Friday's notes. Not perfect I admit but not bad either.

7/4/09 (Day 11):
(B):(7:30--yeah for sleeping in!)2 scram eggs, berry/almond mix, banana
(S):(10:30):sauteed cabbage w/apples, 1 oz macadania nuts
(L):(?:??):grilled chicken over cobb salad (at a diner so no dressing)
(D):(?:??):breadless burger w/roasted peppers and grilled veggies
(S):(9:30):yogurt, dried apricots
1 cocktail durig the day...walked a ton w/hubby around Morristown and then the park with the dog

Day 12.
(B)Banana, 2 scram eggs, berry/almond mix
(L):turkey and cheese sandwhich (removed the bread and just ate the meat and cheese), watermelon
(S):1 black apricot, macadamia nuts
(D):HB egg, sweet potato w/butter, cabbage w/apples and 3 oz. chicken breast
(S):Peach, 1 tbsp almond butter
2 beers

Posted 8 months ago #
kjake55
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7/6/09 (Day 13)
B:(5:30am):2 scram eggs, chicken breast, berry/nut mix
S:(10:15am):Banana
L:(12:00pm):4 cups salad w 1/2 cup chicken, HB egg
S:(2:00pm):dried apricots & macadamia nuts
Pre W/O:Apple & Prograde w/8oz water
Post W/O:Prograde w/8oz water
D:(7:30pm):Greek yogurt w/cherries (YUCKOLA!)...after that berries&nuts & salad w/plain tuna (no mayo)

Coffee (w/heavy cream), water. M/V & Krill. Walked & CF WOD. Weight is back up from day 10. I really must have over did it. Oh well, I've never been able to maintain anything under 140. That's just gonna be me I guess. ;-( Be healthy and forget the rest!

Posted 8 months ago #
kjake55
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Vacationing as primally as possible. Not logging anything right now (or posting much for that matter) but paying close attention to what I eat and drink and so far so good!

7/6 was a bad day. It's better now. I need to learn not to make the scale numbers so important. Old habits die really hard sometimes. I'm losing again so maybe that's why I can say that but none the less it's something I need to work on.

Posted 8 months ago #
DiabetesCanKissMyButt
Member

Love that motto- be healthy and forget the rest! Have fun on vacay.

Posted 8 months ago #
kjake55
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Back from vacation and not too much worse for the ware. Stayed as primal as possible except for 1 day when it was just carb city. Funny though, when I went to bed that night I had heartburn to beat the band and an upset stomach most of the next day. I managed to maintain my weight through-out and got myself back on track w/shopping trips to Trader Joes, Whole Foods and the Co-op I belong to. I'm loaded up on fresh/organic fruits, veggies, nuts, seeds, butters, eggs, etc. I also started a new vitamin plan w/MV, Krill, CoQ10 & Magnesium. I'm thinking I need to give it 60-days before I start to feel any results if I'm actually going to feel any at all. Anyway...

Sun. 7/19 (Day 27):
B: Banana, pork chop (left over from last night), almonds
L: 1/2 avacado stuffed w/chicken/shrimp salad over field greens (very yummy)
S: assorted melon, veggies and seeds (while making up my salad for the week)
D: Rib eye steak, 2 stuffed grape leaves (indulgent but it was the last night of the vacation)
S:Carrot-Walnut bread (from the worker bee recipe) spread w/light layer of cream cheese and diced up dried appricots

Mon. 7/20 (Day 28) back to work and reality :-(
B: HB egg, berries, chiken breast
S: Peach, 1/4 cup apricot kernels
L: Large salad w/balsamic vinegar, HB egg
S: Apple
Pre W/O: celery w/almond butter, Prograde w/ 8oz water
Post W/O: Porgrade w/8oz water
D: Salad w/sundried tomato dressing, 1 can sardines

AM warm-up, walked, Crossfit WOD

Tue. 7/21 (day 29)
B: 2 scram eggs, berries, slice of carrot-walnut bread
S: banana, 1/4 cup macadamia nuts
L: Egg drop soup, steamed chicken w/veggies
S: HB Egg, 1 cup grapes
Pre W/O: Apple w/almond butter, Prograde w/8oz water
Post W/O: Prograde w/8oz water
D: Chicken breast, some fruit (melon & cherries), slice of carrot-walnut bread

Crossfit WOD-went up 5lbs in wt in my 1-arm presses...yeah! progress. Seems to be the toughest of all for me is to get the weight above my head w 1-hand

Posted 8 months ago #
kjake55
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Wed. 7/22 (day 30)
B: 2 scam eggs, chicken breast, berry/almond mix
S: Banana
L: Lg. salad w/grilled chicken
S: Macadamia nuts
D: Chicken breast w/salad (gee, sounds alot like lunch!) and a sliver (a sliver) of chocolate cake...so close yet so far from being clean!

30 days in. My goal for the next 30 days is to stay on track, keep learning and to eat cleaner (no sugar--way less carbs--maybe a little more fat), possibly try the IF thing but I actually get shaky thinking about that one. I also need to start tracking protein/carbs & fat but fitday can be a real chore. I have to look into the others like dailyplate and see if they are anymore user friendly.

Posted 8 months ago #
kjake55
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Thur. 7/23 (day 31)
B: 2 scram eggs, chicken breast, berries/almonds
S: Carrot-walnut bread, HB egg
L: Egg drop soup, steamed chicken & veggies
S: Macadamia nuts
Pre W/O: Prograde w/8 oz. water
Post W/O: Prograde w/8 oz. water
D: Turkey Ch burger (no bread & organic pepper jack cheese) w/salsa & 2 garlic pickle slices, salad w/lime vinegareete
S: 7 oz. unsweetened chocolate almond milk & handful of cherries

walked & Crossfit WOD

Posted 8 months ago #
kjake55
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The weekend.
Fri 7/24 (Day 32)
1st AM: Banana (had leg cramps waking me up all Thurs night)
B: HB Egg, chicken breast, almond/berry mix
S: Carrot-walnut bread, HB egg
L: Egg drop soup, steamed chiken & veggies
S: 2 tbl almond butter, some walnuts
D: (at the Diner): Pot roast w/brown gravy, carrots, salad

Sat 7/25 (Day 33)
B: Banana, 4 strawberries, carrot-walnut bread
L: Salad
Birthday party/picnic at Mom's
Appys: shrimp, couple of cheese & crackers, couple pcs salami & pepperoni, olives
D: Marinated steak, lg. baked potato w/butter & sour cream
Dessert: berries & cream, ice-cream cake
4 glasses wine

Sun. 7/26 (Day 34)
B: Banana
Brunch: Spinach/fetta omelette, bacon
D: Pork chop w/sauteed cherries, fried tomato
S: Smoothie(3/4 cup unsweet choc almond milk, 1/4 cup heavy cream, 5 lg frozen strawberries, 1/2 frozen banana, 2 tbl coco powder)

BLT's (Bites, Licks, Tastes) throughout the day, 2 tsp almond butter, chiken cube (while I was cutting it up for this weeks salad, couple cubes of melon and a couple berries (as I was preparing them for freezing), few cherries (while preparing to sautee them for dinner)

Posted 7 months ago #
primalcyclist
Member

hehe I love the BLT's... I am Queen Bee Nibbler.

Posted 7 months ago #
kjake55
Member

BLT's are my favorite way to eat but it's not very functional..

Mon 7/27 (day 35)
B: HB egg, chicken breast, almond/berries, 2 coffee w/HC & splenda
S: Plum, HB egg
L: Salad w 1/2 cup chicken & RWV, 1/2 cup cantelope, macadamia nuts
S: Celery w/almond butter
Pre W/O: Prograde w/8oz water
Post W/O:Prograde w/8oz water
D: Smoothie: 3/4 cup almond milk, 1/4 cup HC, 1 cup frozen necterines/peaches, 1 tsp flax oil, 1 packet splenda

Had a really tough CF WOD-push presses and 4-400 yard runs. Finish time: 15 minutes. I was exhausted but exhilarated! I'm going to take it a little easier today. Maybe just a walk later.

Posted 7 months ago #
SassaFrass88
Member

For the leg cramps, take Magnesium daily. I guess almost 80% of Americans are lacking it. Your body won't absorb Calcium or Potassium without it.

Mmmmm.....Celery w/ Almond Butter. I like that snack!

Grock on!

Posted 7 months ago #
kjake55
Member

I've been taking a 25 mg tab of magnesium every morning. The bottle says take up to 4 tabs a day but I read that over doing it cause some nasty gastro side effects so I've been reluctant to take more. I'm thinking of adding a 2nd tab with lunch to see how that works out, anything to stop the cramping...

Tue. 7/28/09 (day 36)
B: chicken breast, berry/almond mix (thought I would try a smaller breakfast. It seems I eat a lot more than others I see posting here.)2 coffee w/HC & splenda
S: Banana, coffee w 50/50 & splenda
L: (with a client unexpectedly): Chicken noodle soup, beet salad
S:HB egg, carrot sticks, coffee w 50/50 & splenda
D: 2 baked chicken legs, 3 figs, cucumber & dill salad
S: Strawberries w 1/4 cup whipping cream

Posted 7 months ago #
kjake55
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I realized I'm not takimg 25mg mag every morning, it's 100mg which equates to 25% RDA. Upped it to 2 tabs this am as I still had killer leg cramps last night. I also had another banana this morning because I could hardly walk from the soreness in my calf. 31 grams of carbs from 1 banana is a killer. I need to get this under control. I wonder if not staying hydrated enough has anything to do with it. I know that 6-8 8oz glasses of water daily is arbitrary BUT if that's what your body is used to and then you dial it back a little does your body respond in negative ways? I'm adding the 6-8 back in for a while + 200mg mag & a banana every couple of days. I'm just going to keep playing until I get the combo right but in the meantime the cramps, resulting soreness and loss of sleep is making for a pretty cranky grokette today.

Another observation. I haven't really noticed that I feel any different eating primally. I've completely cut out grains (on a regular basis-had some last night)and am working on the sugar/carb thing so I'm not eating as cleanly as most who are here but I eat cleaner than the general population. The point is I don't feel any differently eating right BUT (again with the capital b-u-t) I surely know when I've eaten wrong! I really feel like crap the next day. Today being a prime example becuase last night I was out to dinner and a show after work and aside from the leg cramp thing I feel crappy from the food and have been **starving** all day. It's loke having a hangover. Carb craving? My imagination? Who the heck knows! All I do know is that bad eating suddenly makes me feel bad! I know that sounds like bitching but I'm actually pretty happy about it becaue it's even more incentive to stay on track.

Wed. 7/29/09 (day 37)
B: 2 scram eggs, chicken breast, berry/almond mix, 2 coffee w/HC & splenda
S: Banana, coffee w 50/50 & splenda
L: 4 cups salad w 1/2 cup chicken & RWV, 1/3 cup macadamia nuts, 2coffee w 50/50 & splenda
S:(becuase I don't know how else to classify it) 1 coffee w 50/50 & splenda,
D: (@ Sebastians) 1 pizza-bread stick, lobster/avacado cocktail served w/4 very thing waffle cut potatoes fried, pan seared sea scallops over Jersey fresh corn & peas in sweet cream sauce, strawberries & blueberries over vanilla ice cream w/whipped cream, 2 merlots, 2 jamacian coffee

And just as an aside we saw Jason Alexander last night in his 1 man show. Bleeping hillarious!!! DH and I were actually on stage as part of the show for a couple minutes and haven't stopped laughing yet. Today kinda sucks but boy was last night a hoot!

Posted 7 months ago #
kjake55
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Thur. 7/30/09 (day 39)
1st am: Banana
B: HB egg, chicken breast, 1 cup strawberries
S: 1 cup grapes, 1/4 cup walnuts
L: egg drop soup, steamed chicken & veggies, plum
Pre W/O: celery w/almond butter
Post W/O: Prograde w/8 oz. water
D: Salad w/sundried tomato dressing, smoothie:(3/4 cup almond milk, 1/4 cup HC, 1 cup frozen berries, 1 scoop whey protein, 1 tsp flax oil)

6-8oz waters, 4 coffee (1 w/HC rest w/50.50)
Walked & CF WOD

Posted 7 months ago #
kjake55
Member

The weekend:
Fri. 7/31/09 (day 40)
B:HB Egg, chicken breast, almond/berry mix, 2 coffee w/HC & splenda
S:Macadamia nuts
L:Egg drop soup, steamed chicken & veggies, 3 squares Green&Black 85% Organic Dark Chocolate
S:1 cup cheeries
D:2 chicken legs, wax beans w/diced tomato-garlic & fresh herbs
4 water, 3 coffee w. 50/50 & spelnda

Sat. 8/1 (day 40)
B:Chopped HB egg w/avacado & 1/3 cup walnuts, sliced tomato, 2 coffee w/HC & splenda
Pre W/O: Prograde w/8oz. water
Post W/O: Prograde w/8oz. water
Brunch:Brooklyn omelette (3 eggs, lox, capers, onions, sun dried tomato), 1/2 cup bluberries, bacon
S:1/2 cup watermelon, 3/4 cup homemade trail mix
D:Salad w/SDT dressing & 1 slice organic pepper-jack cheese
S:Plum (caved into my sweet tooth craving)
6 water, 2 coffee w.50/50 & splenda, 3 coors lite

Sun. 8/2 (day 41)
B:Chopped HB egg w/avacado & 1/3 cup walnuts, 1/2 cup blueberries, 2 coffee w/HC & splenda
S: 3/4 cup trail mix
L:Greek salad w/grilled chicken & anchovies (passed on the stuffed grape leaves), 1 coffee w.50/50 & splenda
D:4 slices roast beef w/roasted onions
S:Plum
Munchies (late last night-boy did they hit hard!) handful of macadamia nuts, 2 tsb almond butter
1 1/2 diet snapple (I don't plan on replacing them after I finish the bottles I have)

Posted 7 months ago #
kjake55
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Monday 8/3/09 (day 42)
B:1 scram egg, chicken breast, berry/almonds, 2 coffee w/HC only--no sweetener (working on those goals)
S:HB egg, sautéed cherries..(I eat when I'm stressed and Monday from the minute I walked into work was huge stress-I recognize the problem but I have to learn to control it better. Part of the solution is to recognize it while it's happening and not in hind sight like this)
L:4 cups salad w 1/2 cup chicken & SDT dressing, plum
D:(@ Provisios)Salad w/sliced melon, goat cheese & pine nuts, grilled salmon over broccoli rabe & sautéed veggies Zinfandel, 1 cappuccino
Dessert:(after the show):raspberry truffle latté

No workout today

Tuesday 8/4/09 (day 43)
B:HB egg, chicken breast, almond/berry, 1 coffee w/HC
S:More stress eating..HB egg, plum, 1/3 cup walnuts
L:4 cups salad w. 1/2 cup chicken & RWV dressing
S:celery w/almond butter
Pre W/O: Prograde w 8oz. water
D:2 slices roast beef, 12 cherries, salad w/chicken, sunflower seeds & SDT dressing

Crossfit WOD: front squats w/KB 3x5 (3@25x5), ring pushups 3x6(BW), 1-arm rows 3x6 (1@25-1@35-1@35x10), back extensions 3x6 (BW), 4 sets of 25/50/25 runs

Today's quote:(to help me achieve goal #4):You can't cross the Grand Canyon in two steps-sometimes you have to take a leap of faith. Believe in yourself!

I don't know if the Challenge journals are supposed to replace these or not so for now so I'm going to keep both.

Posted 7 months ago #