PB when allergic to Pork, Beef and is Hypoglycemic

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  1. Anyone care to share on any tips for my cousin whom is Hypoglycemic and is allergic to Pork & Beef? She says she gets hives when she eats beef products, but not the dairy that comes from the cow.

    I advised her on taking in more fats, since she is eating only fish, turkey & chicken. To which she responded with "Have you had your Cholesterol measured since starting this?" (If I only had a dollar for everytime someone asked me that, even IF they are interested in trying this way of eating!).

    She does use Olive Oil and OCO, but I still advised her to focus on more consumption of fats.

    She did have ill-effects on going low-carb because of her Hypoglycemia, so I am in the dark as to what needs to happen there. She says that to digest proteins, your body needs sugar? So she thought of having a tsp of maple syrup with each meal to counter-balance the lethargy and near-fainting spells that occur on PB.

    Posted 5 months ago #
  2. Rose
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    Yikes that is a tough one. Maybe you could fire a question in Mike Eades direction.
    I've never heard of someone allergic to pork or beef before, sounds a bit odd.

    Posted 5 months ago #
  3. Mr Mesolithic
    Member

    I wonder if she is really allergic to pork and beef, or allergic to the antibiotics that are in it?

    I know some will speak against it - but natural peanut butter, I love that.

    Salmon and other types of fatty fish - Mackerel, Anchovy, Sardines, I think ...

    Start there -

    Eggs and Butter / Whole Milk ...

    I am thinking more and more about her being sensitive to all the *%$^@# they put into livestock, interesting how she can handle milk, but not the meat?
    Geez, I'm getting hungry now LOL -

    Posted 5 months ago #
  4. I agree with both of you, I've never heard of an allergy to pork and beef (She is indeed an odd bird. I'm the only one in the family who can 'tolerate' her ;-).

    I thought about that factor too, the crud in the meat, instead of actual grass-fed beef. She's pretty stubborn, so I passed over that after I suggested it and she was adamant that she gets hives from beef.

    Posted 5 months ago #
  5. maba
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    Has she got an allergy test done? Maybe she can go to a Naturopath to determine exactly what's causing those reactions. One of my friends is following a Primal-like diet after her Naturopath found out she's allergic to milk, soy, some grains etc.

    Posted 5 months ago #
  6. Maba, from our conversations, she has confirmed an allergy to Wheat (yeah, who'dathunk?), carmel coloring and SEVERAL other 'things', so I guess she has been tested.

    Posted 5 months ago #
  7. klcarbaugh
    Member

    "It is, I believe, easier to go cold turkey from carbohydrates than taper off. Teasing yourself with cereals and bagels is more difficult than simply enduring a few days of nausea or hypoglycemia. Just carry a container of sliced oranges or apples and eat a slice if you are hypogycemic. (Yes, there is a bit of fructose there, you are just eating it while you adapt to ketosis) Totally avoid grains and starches. Use fruit for emergencies. It will pass."
    -From the PaNu blog

    I also think that she is allergic to something else besides the meat. Have her ear pastured and grass fed... Also try other animals. You don't have to eat just pork and beef to be primal. Buffalo is a good sub for beef but buy the fattiest cuts and drown it in fat becasue it it too lean.

    Posted 5 months ago #
  8. Yes, she does eat Buffalo too.

    I will just suggest that if she needs some sugar that she just keep some fruit around and eat one or two slices with her 'primal' meals.

    Posted 5 months ago #
  9. OnTheBayou
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    CAFO poultry is certainly loaded with antibiotics, too. Pork and beef are so dissimilar in so many ways and how they are raised, but buffalo is OK?

    I suspect hypochondria.

    Posted 5 months ago #
  10. Heh heh! OTB, I think my entire family would agree with that last statement!

    She is an odd one, I'll say that. But, I give her the benefit of the doubt, since so many people think that I am odd myself ;-)

    Posted 5 months ago #
  11. OnTheBayou
    Member

    There is a segment of the population that chooses to present themselves as weak and vulnerable. They would rather be a victim of something than be strong and healthy.

    No one ever heard of "chemical sensitivity" when I was young. Probably there were a few cases, I know an elderly woman who has definitely had it for decades. But it's now rampant. Did the species change? Has the environment changed so much? (In many ways, it's a LOT cleaner.)

    The mind is a powerful device,as we all know. Wired Magazine recently had a story how the placebo effect is actually getting stronger, world wide! As a result, many drug companies are having difficulty that their latest concoctions are any better than placebos.

    Oh, I know about weird. My whole family has always heard different drummers from the statistical norm!

    Posted 5 months ago #
  12. maba
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    OTB: Last night, Stephen Colbert discussed the same thing - about how research shows people actually feel better on placebo pills than real ones and he came up with the one pill from "Prescott Pharmaceuticals" that would cure just about everything, and he plonked a big pack of Domino sugar on the table and said how it would cure depression, blah, blah and finally ended it by saying but you'd also need to take insulin along with it. It made me think, if someone with his fan following, promoted healthy eating on their shows, people will follow suit. Heck, I actually went to the Nasa website and voted to have their shuttle named "Colbert". Excusez-moi, I totally digressed.

    Posted 5 months ago #
  13. eero
    Member

    Victim mentality + medical self-diagnosis is a dangerous combination. The brain has the fascinating quality to convince itself of anything. The placebo effect is definitely a relevant topic here.

    There's no reason to downplay real sensitivities. But real allergies and food sensitivities are much more scientifically nuanced than just: "When I eat x, it makes me feel bad, therefore I'm allergic to x".

    I've heard a number of vegetarians claim that meat makes them sick. I wonder how much of that effect is due to confirmation bias and placebo.

    As someone who truly is gluten-sensitive, I can empathize with people when they make these food sensitivity connections. I want to believe your friend that a "pork/beef allergy" is plausible, but there's no known biological mechanism that would explain that. It might be something else (additives?), or it might just be a complex game of mental gymnastics.

    Posted 5 months ago #
  14. Just send her down the road of fully STRICT Primal eating based on, fowl, eggs, bison, game meat, fish, and fats from natural/organic raised animals. Ghee, butter, cream from raw milk and tallow/suet to up the fat content.

    Allow, of course, natural veggies of ultra low carb nature, cooked in healthy animal sourced fats.

    Give her something to focus on, things to seek out and buy, to prepare. Sounds like she'd downright enjoy the challenge/focus/strict layout that embraces her ills/allergies. Maybe the low blood sugar woes will melt away after 2-3 days of getting off the carbs.....

    Posted 5 months ago #
  15. nessa
    Member

    it's possible she's reacting to the food the animals are eating?

    my 4yo gets hives after eating pork. even organic pork w/o hormones or antibiotics, etc. however, we've never sourced 100% truly natural pigs (i.e. they don't eat grains & leftovers).

    we thought we also had issues with beef (since we're seriously allergic to dairy - via allergy tests and everything) but she can tolerate 100% grass-fed beef just fine. haven't sourced 100% grass-fed dairy, yet though. i'd be interested to try!

    Posted 5 months ago #

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