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Lots of Cream

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Started 4 months ago by C2H5OH
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C2H5OH
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Do you consider drinking 2 - 3 (or more) glasses of 18% fat cream normal and healthy? I love it and that's my favorite way of incorporating fat into lifestyle

Posted 4 months ago #
lil_earthmomma
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While dairy isn't strictly primal, I love me some heavy cream and cook with it often. I also love to make "milkshakes" as a treat with frozen berries and cream and a splash of vanilla.

Posted 4 months ago #
C2H5OH
Member

is it primal or not, I just want to know if it can produce any health problems

Posted 4 months ago #
lil_earthmomma
Member

No primal unless you were a nursing child. Then you'd get all the cream you could drink! lol

As for health problems, are you experiencing any lactose intolerence issues? If not, are you trying to lose weight? (Some people claim dairy stalls weight loss) If not, I'd say you're fine.

Posted 4 months ago #
SeanBissell
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Heavy cream isn't strictly primal.

But in my opinion it's fine.

Why?

Because it has virtually no lactose, or casein, which are the real problems with dariy.

If you're skeptical, take a look at the nutritional info on heavy cream. It's got virtually no carbs (lactose) or protein (casein.)

By the time it's heavy cream, it's pretty much just animal fat.

Not too bad if you ask me.
-Sean

Posted 4 months ago #
C2H5OH
Member

the standard cream I buy has about 3 grams of carbs, 3 of protein and 18 grams of fat per 100 ml
as for intolerance, okay drinking more than 4 glasses of milk can made someone sick for a few minutes, but I think everybody would feel strange, tolerant or not

Posted 4 months ago #
tallguy
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Last week i did a fat flush for 5 days averaged 88% fat, 10% protein and 2% carbs, i am around 11% BF but still lost another 3lbs in the 5 days and primary fat source was clotted cream, per 100g protein 1.6g, carbs 2.3g, fat 63.5g = ratio pr 1%,Carbs 1.6% and Fat glorious fat 97.4% !!!! What a great lifestyle choice we've made!!!

I have had know ill-effects and i was eating about 600 kcals of clotted cream every day !!!

Just my 2cents worth.

Posted 4 months ago #
stevew
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Ha I had a clotted cream fix earlier this week too. Clotted cream on almond pancakes, clotted cream in my coffee, clotted cream with blueberries! I felt fine with it too!

Posted 4 months ago #
C2H5OH
Member

"I have had know ill-effects and i was eating about 600 kcals of clotted cream every day !!!" you mentioned it to tell us that there were some bad symptoms of so much cream? I'm curious

Posted 4 months ago #
amandamarie
Member

My husband and I have started giving our one year old son heavy cream instead of the recommended whole milk. He seems to like it!

Posted 4 months ago #
nina_70
Member

I'm with you on cream. I consume quite alot of cream, cheese, yogurt etc. as sources of saturated fat. It's not everyone's cup of tea on this forum, but there you go...

One thing I'd advise...if you do consume alot of dairy, seriously look at finding a raw pasture-fed (unpasteurized) source. There's nutritional differences between raw pasture-fed and pasteurized grain-fed dairy which I do think are important, health-wise, especially if you consume alot of dairy. Western Price has some good articles on this. See here:
http://www.westonaprice.org/transition/dairy.html

And...if you're interested in learning more, read "The Untold Story of Milk" by Ron Schmid

Posted 4 months ago #
musajen
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I think I'd drink a pint of cream every day if I could afford it. It's delish and I don't seem to have any problems with it where whole milk will give me acid reflux.

C2H5OH - sounds to me like you're consuming half & half instead of whole cream. Cream usually won't have any protein or carbs in it.

Posted 4 months ago #
tallguy
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C2H5OH,
I simply mentioned it because I had know ill-effects, whether other people do i don't know but the higher the fat content the better I find it.

Regards

Posted 4 months ago #
maba
Member

Tall-guy, don't mean to be a nit-picker, but did you mean NO ill-effects? I was a tad confused too after your after your first comment

Posted 4 months ago #
SerialSinner
Member

I also have heavy cream with my coffee or tea some times, and I love it. Anyone knows where can I find heavy cream from grass-fed cattle?

Posted 4 months ago #
musajen
Member

SS - I use Organic Valley - it's supposed to be from all grass fed cows. The down-side is they do pasteurize and homogenize the one that I get. They do make vat pasteurized and non-homogenized versions so maybe your retailer would be willing to stock them if you request. I have to buy a whole case for my health food store to order it in and even though I love my cream, I don't think i could use a whole case up before it would go bad. :(

Posted 4 months ago #
nina_70
Member

SerialSinner - don't know where you're located, but I buy all my pasture-dairy in San Diego from Organic Pastures (at Whole Foods & Jimbo's). I'm a huge fan of their full cream (could literally chug the stuff):
http://www.organicpastures.com/

List of raw milk/dairy suppliers elsewhere here:
http://www.realmilk.com/where1.html

Posted 4 months ago #
maba
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When I requested the Amish farmer I buy egg from for raw cream, he got me about 1/2 a quart 2 weeks ago. But now that the farmer's market season is ending, I'll have to resort to the carageenan-added one from the grocery store.

Musajen, does it have Carageenan in it? If not, I can request the co-op to get it for me.

Posted 4 months ago #
SerialSinner
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Thanks a lot guys. I'm currently in NYC so Whole Foods sounds like a good option. They must have Organic Valley there.

Posted 4 months ago #
nina_70
Member

SerialSinner - Here's the list of NY stores
http://www.realmilk.com/where4.html#ny

Posted 4 months ago #
musajen
Member

maba - it looks like the Organic Valley, minimally pasteurized, non-homogenized heavy whipping cream does not have carageenan in it. The only ingredient is Grade A Cream.

http://tinyurl.com/yldtwjy

I did order a whole case of this and tried freezing it to see if that would work. Nope. When I thaw it, it's gloppy and chunky. Any ideas what I could make with this stuff to use it up?

Posted 4 months ago #
maba
Member

Thanks musajen. Have you tried making instant primal ice-cream with it? Frozen cream + fresh berries or frozen berries + thawed cream blended in a blender yields a yummy dessert.

Posted 4 months ago #
musajen
Member

Doh - okay, my bad. After a little more digging, Organic Valley is not necessarily grass-fed. Looks like one of their tenants is that they "require organic feed." They have a butter that is made from all grass-fed cows but looks like that doesn't extend to their milk products.

I do know that Farmers All Natural Creamy is grass-fed. I haven't tried their whipping cream but their whole milk and half-n-half are amazing. If the milk I was forced to drink growing up tasted anything like this, force would not have been necessary.

http://www.farmersallnaturalcreamery.com/products/milk.html

Posted 4 months ago #
musajen
Member

Thanks for the suggestions maba! Will definitely give that a try!

Posted 4 months ago #
CaveGirl
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SerialSinner: I'm in NYC too and my favorite option is Union Square Farmer's Market on Fridays or Saturdays. There is a farmer there from Milk Thistle farm that sells jersey cow grassfed milk unhomoginized and gently pasturized. They are really nice. I buy my whole milk from her (in glass bottles, so lovely!) and they sell whole yogurt (creamtop) and grassfed cream. Their milk products are so delish!

If you can't find them, saturdays at Union Square look for Ronnybrook farm (they also sometimes sell their milk in Whole Foods and have a store in the Chelsea market). They have the best yogurt cheese!

Man, in order to get raw milk in NYC you have to drive up to the farm. Wouldn't it be cool to get a group of people together and each person drives up to get the stuff and bring it down to the rest of the group. Mmmm...I miss raw milk & raw cream.

Posted 4 months ago #
nina_70
Member

musajen - yeah, my understanding is that Organic Valley is not necessarily pasture-fed. They do offer a "limited edition" pasture-butter which is from early in the season from a supply of grass-fed cows (and it IS amazing...I've got some in the fridge at the moment and I'll often eat it raw just 'coz it tastes so darn good), but most of their commercial brand is not pasture-fed, is my understanding.

Posted 4 months ago #
maba
Member

KerryGold Irish Butter is pasture-fed too, but I think it's pasteurized. I made ghee w/ it and the taste was simply phenomenol.

Posted 4 months ago #
SerialSinner
Member

Cavegirl thanks for the tip. I come across the farmers market at Union square all the time, so will check Milk Thrisle out.

There is something that I don't like about the market though. I sometimes feel that they might be blatantly ripping us off. I picture them laughing about it on their trip back to the farm, saying things like: "Can you believe it? They actually paid $30 for that steak!"

Posted 4 months ago #
CaveGirl
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I never got that vibe myself, if I did I wouldn't buy from them. I've looked around (websites from other states too) about grassfed meats and pastured poultry and pork and the prices aren't too far off. Knowing that, I still don't buy certain things. I get pastured eggs for about $4 for a dozen large eggs, but won't pay certain people's prices (without saying who, a farm there is selling their eggs at about $12 a dozen. You just have to look around.

Although, in a few months when I move in with the bf, I was thinking of posting something up here for all the NYC primals if they wanted to do a buying club for meats and the like because the pricing would be waaay better.

Posted 4 months ago #
SerialSinner
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a farm there is selling their eggs at about $12 a dozen.

Jesus I have seem them too. I wanted to slap them in the head. You are right though, I guess you have to take your time and look around. I am sure there are some good deals.

And I also like the idea of a buying club

Posted 4 months ago #