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Thread: Red and Processed Meat Intake in Relation to Cancer Risk

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    Red and Processed Meat Intake in Relation to Cancer Risk

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    Thoughts on this? A doctor who is very anti-paleo sent me this today.

    A Prospective Study of Red and Processed Meat Intake in Relation to Cancer Risk

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    It's no different from if I conducted an experiment of health outcomes feeding people a diet of cheese and broken glass. "Cheese causes intestinal bleeding and death!"

    If you count all the fast food in existence as red meat, then yeah, red meat is unhealthy.

    If you cut it back to stuff like steak, the cancer risks mysteriously disappear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by magicmerl View Post
    It's no different from if I conducted an experiment of health outcomes feeding people a diet of cheese and broken glass. "Cheese causes intestinal bleeding and death!"

    If you count all the fast food in existence as red meat, then yeah, red meat is unhealthy.

    If you cut it back to stuff like steak, the cancer risks mysteriously disappear.
    It is an nih study and they weren't that stupid. They found that both red and processed meats each were associated with higher cancer risks. The problem is that it is only an observational study. And yes, they included as red meat e.g., hamburgers from fast food restaurants which are not ideal sources of red meat and perhaps more importantly are normally eaten with fries and cokes.
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    I doubt it was a happy cow that grew up on green pasture though... :P

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    Pretty much any kind of study that says "Eating red meat will make you die a painful a bloody death within minutes" is a study where they not only ask you to recall every food, and in exactly what amounts, you ate for the past 3 weeks or more. Not the most accurate way of doing a study.

    And they lump in pepperoni (eaten on a dough crust), hot dogs (eaten on a bun) and hamburgers (eaten on a bun, with crap fries and a soda) in as "red meat". They're a bit ridiculous.
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    I used to roam about with a guy who kept pointing to the red meat / colon cancer thing. He'd had a chief in the USN who'd died of it when (the chief) was only about 30, so he'd gone vegetarian a while. He's unfortunately the type that doesn't really buy anything that says otherwise, and unfortunately he's very scatterbrained so I don't follow up much on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RitaRose View Post
    Pretty much any kind of study that says "Eating red meat will make you die a painful a bloody death within minutes" is a study where they not only ask you to recall every food, and in exactly what amounts, you ate for the past 3 weeks or more. Not the most accurate way of doing a study.

    And they lump in pepperoni (eaten on a dough crust), hot dogs (eaten on a bun) and hamburgers (eaten on a bun, with crap fries and a soda) in as "red meat". They're a bit ridiculous.
    The way to make pepperoni into a balanced meal is to have a stick of it in one hand, and a hunk of provolone in the other. I actually really didn't get the dough crust at first. It's been since July 2012 since I've had a pizza.
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    I had some last week. Wasn't very flavorful.

    Speaking of pepperoni, can't find any around here that don't have BHT and the like in it. Lame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoanieL View Post
    The way to make pepperoni into a balanced meal is to have a stick of it in one hand, and a hunk of provolone in the other. I actually really didn't get the dough crust at first. It's been since July 2012 since I've had a pizza.
    I can't eat it! Same reason why I can't eat bacon, which is another heartbreaker.

    But I will gladly steal the provolone out of your hand while you're distracted and run like the wind!
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