It would be better if I didn't get my intelligence insulted via the invincible "let's show the argumentative tools the other person is using to defeat their argument" idea. Yes, I have read Carl Sagan's piece too that all of those phrases were invented. Let's get past it. Also, what I described is not, by its true definition, a "continuum falacy". I am suggesting an equal application of logic, something which is commonly done in argumentation.
-- Obesity is a medical term that is defined, if we want to get specific, solely by BMI. In the VA system, a patient gets "obesity" added onto their "problem list" if their BMI was over a certain number. You cannot say that obesity is "ill-defined", and then in the following paragraph give a medical definition (which is wrong, btw).
-- You are 100% correct that body type and size are genetic, in the sense that people are ectomorphic, meso, or endomorphic by genetics....but being endomorphic, a person that is typically larger and puts both muscle/fat on easier, is not the same thing as being 50% BF.
-- Understand that many circus exhibits even 100 years ago often had, as a display, a person that was 270lbs and up. Today these are commonplace.
-- Please list the genetic diseases that obesity is an unavoidable symptom....to my mind, there are about 4-5 that have much any prevalence, mainly Cushing's.
Overall, I am amazed at how, even in the paleo community, there are still defenders for "fat acceptance".
Forgive me if I am wrong (or point out a Sagan name for it), but I was under the impression that the ENTIRE POINT of paleo was people stating that we are NOT meant to be the way that many of us are. If you read the PB, the Paleo Manifesto, the PhD, or much any other paleo book, the central premise is that we are not meant to be so fat and sick, that we are only that way because we have become that lost over everything....if we are now going to say that "no, it's genes" that make my average patient 300+ and diabetic, then I must be doing a really good job of reversing this inevitable genetic doom....which is it, in other words?
Lastly, it is MORE of the PC tendency to say that because I point out that being fat is unnatural, unhealthy, and that society should not be accommodating things which are clearly thus, is equal to discrimination or to "treat them with disgust"....this is done all the time, where simply pointing out reality is prejudicial. I don't think we should look at fat people as sub-human or disgusting....I am pointing out that we should not encourage it and portray it as desirable or normal. In a similar way, I don't see Miley Cirus or their legion of increasingly slutty celebrities as sub-human....I am just suggesting that we should not point to their behavior as normal.
I will wake up tomorrow, dig my car out of the snow we are getting, and drive to work to help sick, fat people turn their life around.....if one is telling me that my recognition of how they got into their situation (they made bad decisions), and that our remedy, in my office or this site, is to help get out of their situation via making good decision is all false, then what is anyone doing here?
Genes make you fat.....but here is website with a lot of advice to help you turn it around?
"They now look to a single and splendid government of an aristocracy, founded on banking institutions, and moneyed incorporations under the guise and cloak of their favored branches of manufactures, commerce and navigation, riding and ruling over the plundered ploughman and beggared yeomanry." - Thomas Jefferson, 1826