Originally Posted by westes
Originally Posted by westes
i buy local grass-fed cream. are you buying uht cream from the supermarket? you're wasting your money. it's a dead food. you can make creme fraiche out of cream that is low-temp pasteurized or raw by fermenting it yourself. further, a "paleo meal" isn't a bowl of fruit and cream. a serving of cream is 1-2 tablespoons, which is negligible carbs, yes, but if you're drinking quarts? not so much lc anymore.
Second, you should read the ingredients list for your typical organic whipping cream. It has < 1 gram of sugar in it. It is almost 100% fat. I am lactose intolerant, but I can drink a gallon of cream and not have a single lactose related disturbance. I digest cream just fine, because it effectively has no sugar of any consequence.
Yet, for reasons I cannot understand, cream makes my blood sugar slowly rise. Not sure it matters why. The glucometer tells me when my sugar is rising and I can just back off whatever food causes that without understanding why it causes that.
Regarding fermentation, does someone sell a fermented dairy cream product? I am guessing that fermentation is something you only see in cheeses and yogurts? I would certainly try fermented cream if that was a product.
i am not giving this advice to everybody, but to YOU. a person who is NOT diabetic.
Let go of glycemic index is fine. I can use glycemic load. But it sounds like what you are saying "forget about measuring blood sugar" and that is the most irresponsible thing you could say in a public forum. What if a person is diabetic? What if they are borderline diabetic / prediabetic? What if they just have very high fasting glucose? You are telling that person to not worry about blood sugar? Do you know how crazy and irresponsible that statement is?
honestly? since most americans are so very fat, i'd venture most of them are "pre-diabetic". however, those millions are not on here suspecting blackberries are going to kill them. YOU ARE. instead of grains, faleo breads and lots of snacking, i've already suggested eating low carb for you, as well as more animal protein, bigger meals and intermittent fasting. i've been eating that way over 4 years and all my cw markers are excellent. but yeah, i'm just talking out of my ass.
Do you understand what happens to a person's vascular system when their blood sugar stays above about 130? They get inflammation of the internal linings of the arteries. They get kidney, and retina, and other body organ damage. They get circulation problems. And the best science suggests now that living with even blood sugar above 100 exposes you to greatly increased risks of cancer, heart disease, etc. If you want to live to be 100 and be in perfect health right until the last few years, you need to have low blood sugar.
Your message is particularly irresponsible to an American audience, because there is an epidemic of obesity and diabetes and prediabetes. Currently 8M Americans have diabetes. Now - read this please - 79 MILLION Americans now have prediabetes. That is fully 25% of the US population.
Diabetes and Prediabetes Statistics and Facts | NDEP
And your advice to those people is to stare at their plate, enjoy their meal, and stop worrying about blood sugar.
You know, you and I are on opposite ends of the same ruler. I think we have nothing more to say to each other.
Last edited by noodletoy; 12-23-2013 at 06:20 AM.
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