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    anyone else lost in fitness?

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    Hi everyone, I wanted to put this question out there on this site because this is a good active forum with people from many different fitness backgrounds and I am hoping to get some good back and forth going here. I am not looking for easy answers, but hope to start an active discussion that will lead to some valuable insights. Ok first of all, I am confused. There is so much in the world about fitness, it is a huge industry. I am overwhelmed by all the ideas that are out there on training.

    But lately I have been trying to find the beginning, trying to see where the journey should start. And I am wondering, how do we figure out what the body needs from a muscular balance standpoint. How do we figure out if a muscle is lagging behind and risking an imbalance caused injury or overuse? How do we figure out if a tissue is limiting our range of motion and causing a bad movement pattern that may lead to an injury? Is there a system out there anywhere that we can use to bring the body back into balance, to clean the slate so we can start to build strength from a place of balance? These are the tools I want to start with.

    So as an aside to this, I am wondering if all these myofascial release techniques, foam rolling, lacrosse ball work, and trigger point therapy type stuff is really necessary, and if it is how do we best apply it. And lastly, if we just move naturally for our "work out" will these issues take care of themselves or do we still need to find ways to compensate for our modern lifestyle (sitting a lot)? I realize I am kind of all over the place but this is where I am coming from. Hopefully some of you can relate to what I am saying, let me know what your thoughts are.

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    You are thinking too much. What do you want to accomplish? Have you downloaded the free fitness ebook? That's a decent place to get started and it will clear up some of your confusion about what the body needs, what is necessary, what's not necessary and what is downright harmful.
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    Life is simple. Your body knows what it needs. It will tell you. If you are thinking too much, as the prior poster pointed out, you're not listening to your body. It's hard to do...but you have to do it. Grok didn't bullsh*t himself nearly as much as we "advanced" humans do...

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    Quote Originally Posted by MAhammer View Post
    Hi everyone, I wanted to put this question out there on this site because this is a good active forum with people from many different fitness backgrounds and I am hoping to get some good back and forth going here. I am not looking for easy answers, but hope to start an active discussion that will lead to some valuable insights. Ok first of all, I am confused. There is so much in the world about fitness, it is a huge industry. I am overwhelmed by all the ideas that are out there on training.

    But lately I have been trying to find the beginning, trying to see where the journey should start. And I am wondering, how do we figure out what the body needs from a muscular balance standpoint. How do we figure out if a muscle is lagging behind and risking an imbalance caused injury or overuse? How do we figure out if a tissue is limiting our range of motion and causing a bad movement pattern that may lead to an injury? Is there a system out there anywhere that we can use to bring the body back into balance, to clean the slate so we can start to build strength from a place of balance? These are the tools I want to start with.

    So as an aside to this, I am wondering if all these myofascial release techniques, foam rolling, lacrosse ball work, and trigger point therapy type stuff is really necessary, and if it is how do we best apply it. And lastly, if we just move naturally for our "work out" will these issues take care of themselves or do we still need to find ways to compensate for our modern lifestyle (sitting a lot)? I realize I am kind of all over the place but this is where I am coming from. Hopefully some of you can relate to what I am saying, let me know what your thoughts are.

    -Jared
    Lots of big questions with no easy answers. I guess the basic idea that each joint has the ability for X degrees (specific to the individual) of mobility and any tissue disfunction caused by age, illness, repetition or injury, that is a cause for less than X degrees of mobility would be one way to look at your question of why.

    So I think your main question is regarding exercise physiology. You may find some more answers that you're looking for by searching down that rabbit hole.

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    So as an aside to this, I am wondering if all these myofascial release techniques, foam rolling, lacrosse ball work, and trigger point therapy type stuff is really necessary, and if it is how do we best apply it.
    Good stuff to do. You tube gives you several videos on that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bear View Post
    Life is simple. Your body knows what it needs. It will tell you. If you are thinking too much, as the prior poster pointed out, you're not listening to your body. It's hard to do...but you have to do it. Grok didn't bullsh*t himself nearly as much as we "advanced" humans do...
    YESYESYES...I thought too much and it took me years to figure out what I really want! Don't start thinking!

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    I admit I didn't read all of that

    But, it seems to me you don't have any goals set in place. What are you trying to achieve? Strength? Weightloss? Better posture?

    Figure out what you want, then utilize the best tools to get you there. You want strength? Barbells are your best bet. You want better posture? Foam rolling, stretching and posture strengthening exercises, as well as compound lifts.

    Tell us what you want first, then we can help you.

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    Give a try to a few things, and select what feels the best and what is the hardest to do, but doesn't feel like martyrdom (if it feels like martyrdom, think about a different method to achieve the same result, i.e. kettlebells instead of a barbell). Then keep doing what feels the hardest 3x a week, trying to improve, and what feels the best as often as you can to not detract from progressing on what's the hardest.
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    Hi everyone, thank you for the replies. I should have given some background and my goals. Well I am 27, been working out since I was 16. Have done a lot of martial arts, calisthenic based workouts, and some weights sporadically. Have gotten into weight lifting recently. I have been reading about fitness and trying all different methods for many years, I am currently a full time student in my junior year studying exercise science. So I have learned a lot about anatomy, physiology, kinesiology, etc but hardly any of it has helped me in a practical way, its all theory.

    anyway, I don't know what my goals are right now, which is frustrating. I have a lot of knowledge about exercise, but don't have anything I want to specialize in. I want to be good at everything. Whether this is possible or not I don't care, that is all I can think of that appeals to me. Becoming a specialist in a sport or method of exercise does not appeal to me. I have set specific goals in the past to achieve "x" like do a one arm pullup or bench 300, whatever. I can never stay interested in these goals.

    So I want to be well balanced, and good at everything. Most of what I have studied has told me the body must specialize to adapt, but I don't believe that. Our ancestors were incredibly multi talented. And that is what I want to be like. Anyone else think this way?

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    I understand where you are coming from. While I lack the potential to be good at everything, I aim to be physically fit, rather than specialized. Basically, I want to be at the point when I can at least attempt absolutely anything (apart from team sports, lol). I also gave up the aesthetic goals, because I can't be good at it either I suck, and I admit that I suck, but I enjoy what I am doing.

    My schedule is lifting 2-3x a week, with a combination of hypertrophy lifting and very few heavy lifts when I feel like it. I also try to go light on the lifts that hurt me in the past (overhead press).
    In cardio, I train for endurance and breathing, so I do swimming and run hard (but no sprints) on the elliptical or outdoors in the summer. I am starting to learn to jump (I particularly suck at plyometrics)
    For coordination and balance and overall body control I do yoga and a hapkido class, including a lot of rolling (well, for me).
    Finally, for play and general well-being, I walk, and play with mu kiddo (skating, climbing, sledding or x-country skis).
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