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    Quote Originally Posted by Hannakb View Post
    Umm, am I the only one out there that thinks Christmas isn't all about presents?
    I think it was probably originally about slotting in a celebration at the most dismal time of the year when the days are shortest and the nights longest, and when food might be short.

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    In agricultural communities people probably needed a fillip to carry them through.

    Fairly early on (in the 4th century A.D. if I recall correctly), the date of Christmas was moved to coincide with that time of year and with existing festivals. A sensible move, I guess. For it certainly makes sense to have a big party around that time if you're in the Northern hemisphere, for the reasons already mentioned. I guess in Australasia the festival has been rather detached from all that. There, it floats free not anchored into the movement of the Earth and night and day and suchlike.

    From another point of view, and what I guess you're getting at, the "commercialisation" is rather offensive. Sure. I don't know what we do about that besides trying not to let it affect us, however.

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    Fairly early on (in the 4th century A.D. if I recall correctly), the date of Christmas was moved to coincide with that time of year and with existing festivals. A sensible move, I guess. For it certainly makes sense to have a big party around that time if you're in the Northern hemisphere, for the reasons already mentioned. I guess in Australasia the festival has been rather detached from all that. There, it floats free not anchored into the movement of the Earth and night and day and suchlike.
    I think that the epitome of common sense! One would only wish that modern society was just as practical. I for one would like to have those holidays in the summer. Winter SUCKS for both stay at home and travel. I'd much rather work through December and January but have time off in the summer or early fall when the weather is great and the garden needs a lot of love! I think we need to have a choice when to take those 2 days off to get a break (I am sure skiiers don't mind winter break)!!! unfortunately, my employer took in the other direction and took our former floater and added it to Christmas. (Sigh). Great, one more day of enforced staring out of the window at the frozen land. Or paying overinflated prices and dealing with delays that eat away hours of holiday time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    I think it was probably originally about slotting in a celebration at the most dismal time of the year when the days are shortest and the nights longest, and when food might be short.

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    For it certainly makes sense to have a big party around that time if you're in the Northern hemisphere, for the reasons already mentioned. I guess in Australasia the festival has been rather detached from all that. There, it floats free not anchored into the movement of the Earth and night and day and suchlike.
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    I see that Sarah Palin has a new book just out that is all about Christmas. Just in time for, well, Christmas. I am psyched. Christmas has been missing that slutty librarian vibe for way too long.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hannakb View Post
    Ok I know a bit early for some (I'm in Australia, no Thanksgiving & not to many do Halloween).
    Part of a conversation with another mother:
    This was on Facebook for Christmas ideas: something they want
    Something they need
    Something to wear
    Something to read.
    Me: that's heaps
    OM (slightly shocked): it's only 4 presents! I'm not happy unless there's at least 10 each.

    Umm, am I the only one out there that thinks Christmas isn't all about presents?
    How many is too many?
    I'm not anti presents or anything like that, I just think that most children these days are given way to much.
    I feel as if 1 good present per person is enough, or a few smaller things. I'm thinking of getting my girlfriend a book or two, and some nice soaps. I quite like that facebook idea, so maybe I'll do: 1 book, 1 item of clothing and the soaps. But in general I feel that money should be spent on experiences not materialistic possessions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hannakb View Post

    Umm, am I the only one out there that thinks Christmas isn't all about presents?
    How many is too many?
    I'm not anti presents or anything like that, I just think that most children these days are given way to much.


    As you can see it is different for most everyone. I do think some take it a bit far but I also believe it is their choice and what I think really doesnt matter. I dont think the specifics of how you give gifts is as important as the creation of a tradition in your home.

    I grew up Christian so the holiday has meaning from a religious perspective for me regardless of any debate over the date or origins of the celebration. It is still a time from a spiritual perspective to take a personal inventory of your faith or just to celebrate the birth of Jesus or your faith in general. And obviously there are many religions who celebrate differently around this time of year as well. In a politically correct time, it is still ok to do that.

    From a non "religious" perspective it is also great to have a time to be thankful and to show your appreciation to your family and friends. Sure some families take it too far with their little ones, we probably did to some extent too, and the whole gift giving thing at work isnt as special as it could be. But this time of year can still be a time to bring family and friends together and share some great food, some laughs and maybe even some gifts. We should definitely appreciate the people in our lives every day but I think it is a good thing to make certain times more magical. Our Christmas is far different than it was for me as a kid but the intent and the magic is the same. Nothing makes me happier than having my house full of people eating good food, laughing and catching up. And when my daughter was younger the joy on her face was heartwarming, even if it was due to a gift.

    I believe everyone is certainly entitled to their interpretation of the holidays and how they choose to celebrate. Regardless of whether you do a single gift or use the list above or spend thousands of dollars, it is your choice how you make this time special in your home. I guess if people choose to not like the holiday traditions or had bad experiences growing up that is certainly a valid position as well. I just think it is a great time of year to create a magical time for my family through traditions like the decorations, food, gifts, and praise.

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