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    Adjusting diet for musle gain

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    Alright, so I'm a really skinny guy ( 5' 8'' 125 lb ) and my goal is to gain flexibility and strength. I'm using convict conditioning as a routine and I'm trying to figure out if I need a specific diet to match it or not. The book says that 3 square meals a day is all you need, but most body building forums talk about 6 meals a day and eating until you can't anymore.

    My question is; for a slow paced, long term program like convict, do I really need to be consuming massive quantities of food and counting macros? Or is that only for people who are lifting heavy? It seems like convict is more about gaining functional strength and building a good foundation slowly, rather than hitting the iron and getting results soon, so I'm kind of unsure what I should be doing, especially since I'm just at the starting steps of the book.

    This is what a typical day looks like:

    Breakfast: Sweet potato and 2 eggs

    Lunch: Big ass salad ( Spinach, radishes, bell pepper, romaine lettuce, bok choy... ) Half a chicken breast or maybe a thin pork chop, sometimes 2, 1/4 cup of bulgur wheat.

    Dinner: Grapes, carrot, can of tuna, almonds, apple, maybe a desert like apple pie slice.

    2 hours before bed: bowl of wheat flakes, some more fruit ( frozen raspberries, banana etc...)

    It's not strictly paleo, and as you can see, I'm experimenting with implementing whole grains into some of my meals. My goal is really just to eat clean and whole, rather than avoid food groups. My concern is that maybe I'm eating too many fruits and vegetables at the cost of other things and not getting enough calories. According to a sites calculator, I need around 2250 calories to maintain my current weight, and around 2750 to make gains, again I question if this is true for any strength program, or just for heavy lifters? In the early stages convict trains only twice a week, so I worry that it might be excessive. I still need to estimate my daily intake to see where I stand in relation to those numbers, but going by how much fruit and veggies I'm eating, I have a feeling I'm pretty far off.

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    You're 5'8, 125#. Add a steak and a glass of milk to each meal. If you do any real heavy lifting, add a second glass of milk. You're welcome.

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    Too little of everything, except the vegetables, add at least half a gallon of milk as a start...

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    You most definitely need to eat to grow. Try eating steak, the whole chicken breast, and big thick pork chops at every meal on top of what you are already eating if you really want the best shot at reaching your goals.

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    As others have said you need to add some more protein buddy. Half a chicken breast for lunch, who eats half a chicken breast ?

    Add in some steak, bacon or quality sausage to that breakfast and also try to add in some more at other times as well.

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    I eat more than that on a light day. . . and I'm a female. You really need to eat more - - like a lot more.

    Also, it doesn't matter when you eat or how many meals it takes you to get to your caloric goal for the day. Whether its one giant meal or 8 small meals - as long as you are eating enough calories overall you'll grow and see gains.

    You won't gain strength if you aren't challenging your muscles to adapt (whether thats with bodyweight exercises or a barbell -- again doesn't matter if you're untrained at this point, just pick one and do it). And your muscles can't repair themselves (and become stronger) if you aren't eating enough calories to support growth. You don't have to eat so much that you gain quickly - eat a few hundred over maintenance (if you feel like counting calories) and assess from there - if you aren't gaining weight, eat more.

    At this point though -- I would just EAT! and not bother with counting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Purple Leather Couch View Post
    I eat more than that on a light day. . . and I'm a female. You really need to eat more - - like a lot more.

    Also, it doesn't matter when you eat or how many meals it takes you to get to your caloric goal for the day. Whether its one giant meal or 8 small meals - as long as you are eating enough calories overall you'll grow and see gains.

    You won't gain strength if you aren't challenging your muscles to adapt (whether thats with bodyweight exercises or a barbell -- again doesn't matter if you're untrained at this point, just pick one and do it). And your muscles can't repair themselves (and become stronger) if you aren't eating enough calories to support growth. You don't have to eat so much that you gain quickly - eat a few hundred over maintenance (if you feel like counting calories) and assess from there - if you aren't gaining weight, eat more.

    At this point though -- I would just EAT! and not bother with counting.
    Looks like you have some nice delts going on there !

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    Thank you OldSchhool. So do you sir!!
    This pic is a little over a year old - I'm happy to report that I've grown a little since then.

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    Great replies, guys, I appreciate the feedback.

    To clarify on why I eat half a chicken breast for lunch, it basically comes down to cost. I'm really struggling with a budget right now and it shows in my diet. Vegetables are cheaper than meat, and the meat that I get tends to get stretched out to make it last longer. I'm doing around 260 a month on groceries and I'm trying to cut that down to sub 240 or even less. Eating clean definitely has a financial learning curve.

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    I understand how difficult it can be to shop on a budget. Here are some ideas that might help!
    Chicken thighs are usually less expensive than the breasts.
    Also, get yourself a crock pot . Buy a pork shoulder (I just got one for $8 the other day). Put the shoulder in the crock pot with some water, salt and pepper. Turn the crock pot on for 8 hours - enjoy delicious pulled pork for three-four days You can do this with lots of the tougher cuts of meat that are usually cheaper than the premium cuts. A crock pot would be a valuable investment for you.
    Organ meats and things are also good for you and generally less expensive.
    Eggs are really cheap too and a great source of protein.

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