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    Obama Care reports coming in - HORROR STORIES

    Facebook comments on Obama Care experiences:

    The following are 21 of the best comments that have been posted on the official Healthcare.gov Facebook page so far…

    Needless to say, there are a whole lot of very frustrated and very disappointed people out there right now.

    21. “I am so disappointed. These prices are outrageous and there are huge deductibles. No one can afford this!”

    20. “Good grief. Day three of trying and still can’t get on this website. The government KNEW about this thing going live for two years. TWO YEARS! And this is the best they could do? I shudder to think what’s going to happen once they are in control of my healthcare. They can’t even get their website functioning properly. If my business had rolled out a piece of crap that worked like this I’d be out of business.”

    19. “How is it that Facebook, which is a non-essential social networking web site, can reliably handle BILLIONS of electronic interactions per second, but the Healthcare.gov site, which is literally the very heart of the Obamacare program wasn’t ready for the obvious millions of visitors that you had to know it would be receiving?”

    18. “i’m just going to stop even bothering for a couple weeks or so… once the fervor dies down, hopefully i’ll be able to actually create an account!”

    17. “The Federal Gov’t has ruined everything it has gotten involved in, does anybody really expect this healthcare disaster to be any different? Sorry, I’ll take the asinine fine.”

    16. “And yet another day and several tries I once again keep getting nothing but a completely blank page after I log in. The top tab says ‘Successful URL’. Oh how ironic.”

    15. “Didn’t these Feds ever have mothers that told them not to lie? Maybe they were raised in the wild. This system is trash. I can’t verify my identity or upload documents. Also what’s with Experian verifying ID’s? Don’t care for that at all.”

    14. “I am a single mother of two, in school and working full time, living 75% below the poverty level and I DO NOT qualify for a healthcare subsidy”

    13. “the website can’t verify my identity…the people at the experian verification number can’t verify my identity either….i tried to upload a scan of my driver’s license, and that won’t work either……very annoying process…….i’ve wasted 3 days on this junk.”

    12. “if you’re stupid enough to put all your banking information in to the federal governments computers you are definitely part of the problem”

    11. “Where the HELL am I supposed to get $3,000 more a year to pay for this “bronze” health insurance plan!?!??? And I DO NOT EVEN WANT INSURANCE to begin with!! This is frightening.”

    10. “I have one question. What happens if I can’t afford the Affordable Health Care that you are cramming down my throat? I just ran your calculator, and if it is even close to accurate, I will have a choice…..I can pay my rent and buy groceries, or I can pay the health care premiums, move out into the streets and live under a bridge some where, and go hungry! Can I please get one of those exemption things that the President and Congress got?”

    9. “I’ve been stuck at the security questions since 9am on October 1st”

    8. “Death Panels. Yes. The red plan. It’s affordable. And painless!”

    7. “Here in Austin, TX have gotten to login screen three times today, wait is getting shorter, but am still getting
    a blank screen after getting a quick ‘authenticating, please wait’ message at top left of screen, then nothing but a blank white page and no indication that the browser is waiting for the server to do anything. Attempts to refresh the screen sends me back to the please wait screen.”

    6. “I finally got past the security question problem, got my account, my verification email, and when I went to log in, it said the information was invalid.”

    5. “I want to know how I am expected to pay $300+ for this and still pay my bills when the only income is $710 a month from my husband’s SSI? Am i supposed to lose my home and water and electricity or go to jail because I can’t afford this?”

    4. “Government forces people to pay a new tax. People click on website to see how much this new tax will cost them. Website crashes in the first hour. Government calls it a huge success.”

    3. “I work a minimum wage job…how the heck can I afford health insurance and if the company doesn’t give full time? I am so angry right now…. I share housing with others because I can’t afford my own place… how do you expect people to afford obamacare if they barely get by from paycheck to paycheck????? I can’t afford a fine either! I think you are obligated to give the American people an answer and an explanation!”

    2. “Y’all can kiss my butt. You got that? You want my bank account? I’ll close it. You put a lien on my house? Take it…and the mortgage too. Some things are worth fighting for, and freedom is one of them! I am sick and tired of the redistribution strategies of this socialist country and having my wages STOLEN to pay for them!”

    1. This one is wrong: See link http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum...ml#post1349437
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    The best comment was posted by a man named Will Sheehan with type 1 diabetes who was initially very excited to sign up for Obamacare. But what he discovered while trying to sign up was absolutely horrifying…
    I actually made it through this morning at 8:00 A.M. I have a preexisting condition (Type 1 Diabetes) and my income base was 45K-55K annually I chose tier 2 “Silver Plan” and my monthly premiums came out to $597.00 with $13,988 yearly deductible!!! There is NO POSSIBLE way that I can afford this so I “opt-out” and chose to continue along with no insurance.
    I received an email tonight at 5:00 P.M. informing me that my fine would be $4,037 and could be attached to my yearly income tax return. Then you make it to the “REPERCUSSIONS PORTION” for “non-payment” of yearly fine. First, your drivers license will be suspended until paid, and if you go 24 consecutive months with “Non-Payment” and you happen to be a home owner, you will have a federal tax lien placed on your home. You can agree to give your bank information so that they can easy “Automatically withdraw” your “penalties” weekly, bi-weekly or monthly! This by no means is “Free” or even “Affordable.”
    You can see a screenshot of his comment below…

    More here:
    21 Of The Best Comments Posted By Frustrated Americans On The Official Obamacare Facebook Page | SilverDoctors.com

    What are your real life experiences with Obama Care?

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    Don't look at me. I take care of my health, and frankly, I didn't vote for Obama. Not that I am a racist or anything...

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    Yeah my rates nearly tripled and my deductible went up by a couple grand. Out of curiosity, if I made half my income I'd get a subsidy that would bring my premium back to my current rate. We also now have only two insurers writing policies in my state, so basically a monopoly because one of the two really is not a big player.

    I did get a letter from my current insurer that they would have additional policies off exchange available but that my current policy was not grandfathered. You know the one I'm happy with, that I thought I'd be able to keep. That they said I'd be able to keep. Because...I was happy with it.

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    I have opted out of the "healthcare" system long time ago. There's no way I'd participate in this legalized organized crime debacle again. I dare them to make me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rusty View Post
    Don't look at me. I take care of my health, and frankly, I didn't vote for Obama. Not that I am a racist or anything...
    Rusty,
    Graycat,
    That doesn't matter. You don't have a choice. You MUST buy Obama Care or else pay substantial fine to the IRS!
    This is the first example we've received of a person who opted out ! ! !
    Msg#1 The best comment was posted by a man named Will Sheehan with type 1 diabetes who was initially very excited to sign up for Obamacare. But what he discovered while trying to sign up was absolutely horrifying…
    I actually made it through this morning at 8:00 A.M. I have a preexisting condition (Type 1 Diabetes) and my income base was 45K-55K annually I chose tier 2 “Silver Plan” and my monthly premiums came out to $597.00 with $13,988 yearly deductible!!! There is NO POSSIBLE way that I can afford this so I “opt-out” and chose to continue along with no insurance.
    I received an email tonight at 5:00 P.M. informing me that my fine would be $4,037 and could be attached to my yearly income tax return. Then you make it to the “REPERCUSSIONS PORTION” for “non-payment” of yearly fine. First, your drivers license will be suspended until paid, and if you go 24 consecutive months with “Non-Payment” and you happen to be a home owner, you will have a federal tax lien placed on your home. You can agree to give your bank information so that they can easy “Automatically withdraw” your “penalties” weekly, bi-weekly or monthly! This by no means is “Free” or even “Affordable.”

    21 Of The Best Comments Posted By Frustrated Americans On The Official Obamacare Facebook Page | SilverDoctors.com
    The above information in message #1 is wrong: Correct information posted here:
    http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum...ml#post1349437

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    There are plenty of stories of people who were FINALLY able to get care they needed after being kept out of the health care system because of pre-existing conditions.

    If you consider it a horror story that someone couldn't get on a website for a couple of days or that someone is disappointed by the price of the insurance, you should try living your live in horrible pain because an insurance company has deemed you not worthy of coverage.

    It's too soon to say what the end result will be of this, but I do know that hysterical rhetoric put forth with the clear intent of biasing people is never going to result in any type of progress.
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    So far I still get very cheap insurance from my employer. It's less than $100 a month because my employer is huge and can negotiate. I agree the affordable care act is not affordable. If I'm ever forced into this system I do not know what I will do. The ACA should have been a single payer-system or nothing at all.
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    I won't find out how much I'm screwed until the15th. Right now I pay about $50 every two weeks and my deductable is over $2000.

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    I am a physician, so I figure I have something worse contributing here....

    -- "Personal responsibility" is not a realistic argument in regards to healthcare, for as much as I propagate it in other things. Someone can be responsible all day long, but when they get hit by a bus or have a massive heart attack, the time and costs associated cannot be handled by one person, or family. Everyone is all about being responsible, until their family member gets a 500k medical bill....the "personal responsibility" argument, if applied here, would mean that they are now contractually obligated to pay that money, with interest. If they are deemed unable, as most would be, the "responsible" thing to do would be to liquidate all of their assets, as well as the family's assets. Whatever is left would be garnished from wages, for as long as it takes, by whatever kin they had. If that means your great grandkids are paying for your 1.5 mil end of life care 40 years later, so be it. You should have done the responsible thing and killed yourself as to not burden them.These are the laws we assign to all other commodities and assets/loans. Why should your death be any different? ....the reality is that caring for our sick REQUIRES us working together, allocating costs into pools, insurance, etc. This is not a reason for the ACA to exist, as it is a terrible, usurious law, but it is a reason why most of its opponents are totally idealistic and clueless.

    -- The ACA is not socialistic at all. It is a law that mandates that one purchase something from a PRIVATE company, or face government penalty. That is fascism. Big difference. It was originally a republican idea from the 90's, the individual mandate. The entire law was written by pharma, insurers, and hospital networks. It is a corporatist masterpiece.

    Overall, my main problem with bashing Obamacare is that these same people often have no better ideas. I am opposed to the idea that a country should be basing 1/5 of its economy on making money from sick people. That is an immoral, repugnant idea. For me, any system that does not take this on fundamentally will not work, period.

    One could get millions of horror stories from people that have gone bankrupt, seen family members die due to not affording care, or the other terrible sides to having a "sickness for profit" system in place. That is the problem. The current law or the previous ones are only re-arranging deck chairs. I did not become a physician to make money, but to help people. Make med school free (as it is in many other places, and was here for decades), make it so we aren't paying 300k in loans back, and then set salary rates that are big enough to keep it as incentive.

    With our salaries taken care of, we could then target the true con-men and beneficiaries of Obamacare: insurers (30 million new customers by LAW! HOLY hell, thank you!), private hospital networks, and pharma. They wrote it themselves, for themselves.

    Just saying, "personal responsibility" is a fantasy in healthcare. There are good solutions, but that sure as hell isn't one of them.
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    The ACA should have been a single payer-system or nothing at all.
    ^This. I am so tired of our gov't half assing everything.

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