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    Quote Originally Posted by eKatherine View Post
    Every one of those "scandals" was either embellished beyond recognition by Fox News or created entirely. This one is my favorite of all time.


    You know that's Philadelphia, Alabama, right? You know those two guys were on payroll for Fox News as their resident "angry black men" for years before they created the so-called "New Black Panther Party" to stage events for the camera crew they brought with them, right? And not a single white person felt threatened. They couldn't find a single one.



    I feel sad that you have all this fake compassion for some guy who was probably brainwashed by Fox News to do this, just as so many other "victims of Obamacare" have turned out to be not as represented on their shows. And yet you haven't given a damn about the 50,000 people who have died each year for lack of health care. I personally know people whose relatives have decided not to get treated for cancer because either they were not insured or their insurance wouldn't cover it.

    Your solution for the health care crisis is to ration health care based on ability to pay, and go back to letting the insurance companies continue doing whatever makes them more money. The status quo.

    But proceed. The irrational fear of Obamacare in this thread is convincing no one who wasn't already frothing-at-the-mouth crazy about this stuff you have copied and pasted so many times. For those who think that there are always (exactly) two sides to an issue, you've chosen to make your side look like the last refuge of lunatics.

    I did not support Obamacare. Many of the drawbacks I have predicted have come to be true, although I hoped that would not be the case. I am as far left as they come. I have been a progressive my whole life. You don't even know what the word means.
    +++ 1 well said Kath... like any care service it doesn't start off perfect, it will mature and get better, I can't imagine living in a place with no NHS... even though I have a fully comprehensive insurance through work, but you know what I trust NHS Drs more, they have no agenda when diagnosing me, not like privatized clinics paid by my insurance, they wanted to issue me with a complete and unnecessary tests and consultants visits which would have cost the insurance 1000's just to milk the system.

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    10 Signs That Obamacare Is Going To Wreck The U.S. Economy

    It is hard to find the words to adequately describe how much of a disaster Obamacare is turning out to be. The debut of Healthcare.gov has been probably the worst launch of a major website in history, millions of Americans are having their current health insurance policies canceled, millions of others are seeing the size of their health insurance premiums absolutely explode, and this new law is going to result in massive numbers of jobs being lost. It is almost as if Obamacare was specifically designed to wreck the U.S. economy. .......
    Obamacare is making everything that was bad about our system much, much worse. Americans are going to pay far more for health care, the quality of that care is going to go down, they are going to have to deal with far more medical red tape, and thousands upon thousands of U.S. employers are considering getting rid of the health plans that they offer to employees altogether due to Obamacare. .......We were promised over and over that we were going to pay less for health care, get better coverage, and be able to keep our current health plans if we were pleased with them. .....That was such a dramatic lie that even NBC News is turning on him. They discovered that Obama has known for three years that most people that rely on individual health insurance policies would not be able to keep them.....

    Pretty much everything that Obama told us when he was selling us on his plan has turned out to be a lie.....

    So what can we expect from Obamacare moving forward?
    The following are 10 signs that Obamacare is going to wreck the U.S. economy...

    More here:
    10 Signs That Obamacare Is Going To Wreck The U.S. Economy

    Not covered in this report is the HORRIFIC Marriage Tax forced on the middle class that will result in Millions of divorces. Who is willing to pay upwards of an extra $11,000 annual tax to stay married. I've covered this already, so Google "Obama Care Marriage Tax." for the horrible details. This is in addition to the existing Marriage Tax by the IRS that has been there forever.

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    +++++++++. Very well said, Katherine.

    And thank you, Hotmail, for sharing your experience w/NHS. I have many friends in both the UK and Canada who think it is wonderful.

    I thought you were going to stop posting Grizz. Really, so much of what you've posted is inaccurate fear mongering ala Fox News and their cohorts. You're being led by people who are not on your side as has been pointed out by others. Enough already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by janie View Post
    +++++++++. Very well said, Katherine.

    And thank you, Hotmail, for sharing your experience w/NHS. I have many friends in both the UK and Canada who think it is wonderful.

    I thought you were going to stop posting Grizz. Really, so much of what you've posted is inaccurate fear mongering ala Fox News and their cohorts. You're being led by people who are not on your side as has been pointed out by others. Enough already.
    You clearly are following Obama like a puppy dog & misled by Mainstream Media Propaganda which is far worse.
    Do you actually believe all the LIES that Obama is telling you? I have a bridge to sell you,

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    Actually Grizz, I'm not. But I also don't believe all the right wing lies and drivel that you apparently take for the absolute truth. Politically, I think the far right is a disaster, and the Dems that you think are so socialist are actually mildly in the center. Due to their not rocking the boat and the extremist on the right, not much is getting accomplished. I'd prefer a move a bit left of center and a society that takes care of everyone and not just the rich (who, as it has been pointed out to you b/f, pay for all that fear mongering nutcase stuff you post.) Hint: they are not on your side.
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    The wealthy are laughing at the people at the bottom who willingly carry their water for them. I would say they would cut your throats in a moment, but in fact they already have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eKatherine View Post
    The wealthy are laughing at the people at the bottom who willingly carry their water for them. I would say they would cut your throats in a moment, but in fact they already have.
    In most cases,you cannot stop people from bring poor. The poor got that way because of their own fault. The poor do things that make themselves poor. Such as:
    * Quit high school, even quit gradeschool
    * Fail to study while in school
    * Fail to get a skill, trade, or higher education
    * Get themselves pregnant without a husband
    * Men getting sued for child support -
    * Spend every penny and never save
    * Terrible diet, getting FAT & SICKLY
    * Get themselves on DRUGS
    * No will power
    * Waste their money on foolishness
    * Never make investmewnts
    * Work as little as possible - LAZY
    * Have too many babies, knowing they can't afford them
    * Do STUPID things & get arrested
    * Probably hundreds of other reasons
    In this day and age, there is NO excuse for a woman to get pregnant with all the various PILL & Condoms

    You can't stop some people from getting rich.
    * Save their money
    * Make wise investment
    * Finish their schools
    * Focused & ambitious
    * Learn skills & training
    * Try to learn while in school
    * Don't get pregnant or make babies until ready financially

    There will ALWAYS be the rich & the poor, regardless of your far left excuses & communism.
    It is your choice whether to own the business or be a worker.
    The rich are not laughing at the poor. They generally work very hard to provide jobs for others. Now since Obama Care, not so much because they are being severely penalized for being successful.

    THE GOLDEN RULE: The Man with the money makes the rules. Always was that way, will always be that way. Like it or not.
    Corollary, Poor People don't provide jobs for others.

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    I am stunned both by your naivety regarding wealth accumulation and your prejudice against the poor. You are either very young or have been thoroughly brainwashed by the masters (or both). Sad.
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    It's not a level playing field. I'm not saying that some of those points aren't so. However, if you compare a college student who is fortunate enough to have parents footing the bill vs one who has to work while going, do you expect their GPAs to be the same? IOW, given that there are only 24 hours in a day, will the student who has to work have the same time to get the grades that the affluent student does?

    Getting arrested. Gawd. Someone like a Kennedy can get arrested for a filthy crime, hire the best "justice" money can buy, and his/her income will never be affected. Joe Blow gets arrested after the age of 18 and if in need of a public defender is pretty much marked for life.

    Except for abstinence, there is no 100% perfect birth control. Oh yeah, you can also be male - this will be 100% effective in keeping you from getting pregnant.

    One also can't discount environment. If you are a child and you wake up every morning and see all the nice adults going off to work, and they also live in nice homes and have nice clothes, you get the message that this is what everyone does. If you wake up every morning and see that the people who work live a hard life, but the people who steal/deal wear $400 shoes and drive nice cars, you get the message that traditional roads to affluence aren't open to you.

    IOW, if you're born middle class or better, you probably only have to be mediocre to do okay. But if you're born into poverty, you have to be exceptional. And hell, if you're born rich, you can be a complete coke snorting fool, and mommy and daddy will still buy your way into some expensive college where you make all the connections you need to live a good life.
    "Right is right, even if no one is doing it; wrong is wrong, even if everyone is doing it." - St. Augustine

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoanieL View Post
    It's not a level playing field. I'm not saying that some of those points aren't so. However, if you compare a college student who is fortunate enough to have parents footing the bill vs one who has to work while going, do you expect their GPAs to be the same? IOW, given that there are only 24 hours in a day, will the student who has to work have the same time to get the grades that the affluent student does?

    Except for abstinence, there is no 100% perfect birth control. Oh yeah, you can also be male - this will be 100% effective in keeping you from getting pregnant.

    One also can't discount environment. If you are a child and you wake up every morning and see all the nice adults going off to work, and they also live in nice homes and have nice clothes, you get the message that this is what everyone does. If you wake up every morning and see that the people who work live a hard life, but the people who steal/deal wear $400 shoes and drive nice cars, you get the message that traditional roads to affluence aren't open to you.
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