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    How does the Affordable Care Act affect seniors, retirees?

    We actually have good news here for a change.
    What it did was require that Medicare begin covering several additional preventive services, such as annual wellness visits, immunizations, diet counseling, and screenings for cancer, cholesterol and diabetes. It started closing the Medicare Part D prescription drug coverage gap, referred to as "the doughnut hole," which had many seniors paying high out-of-pocket costs for their medications (the gap is now scheduled to be closed by 2020). It also added resources to help catch people who fraudulently bill Medicare.

    "The Affordable Care Act has very little to do with Medicare recipients, since senior citizens already have publicly financed health care," noted Molly Wood, a Lawrence attorney who specializes in elder law.
    How does the Affordable Care Act affect seniors, retirees?

    Unless something special comes up, I think I'm done posting on the Horrors of Obama Care. I really don't think this UNJUST law will survive the political firestorm that is erupting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Derpamix View Post
    Exactly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UpErMei View Post
    Exactly.
    Mei,

    That was EXCELLENT. We can tell when he is lying: His lips are moving. He did not lie about one thing, he is determined to transform the United States. Into what? He won't say, but we know his goal is dictator of Communism, as in Lennin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by magnolia1973 View Post
    Oh, no, I'm not mixed up. Part of my job is affordable housing. We do a decent job locally for the elderly. Mentally ill? Notsomuch. BUt the people we really take care of are women with a ton of kids they can't afford. The resources go to a group of people who willfully work the system so they don't have to work. The resources go to relatively smart people who are employable, but choose to work the system. They are proud of their abilities to work the system.
    I knew a young woman who worked in government assistance and said the EXACT same thing. She said the women coming to her often had their nails done (ugly, but expensive) and carried tacky (but real and expensive) Coach logo bags. She told me she was often yelled at by these women...they got mad when they weren't given as much financial assistance as they expected/felt was due them! This young woman only worked the job for a few years before she finally had enough and quit. I don't think I could have stomached the job for more than 6 months!

    I think this "give me" attitude is a lot more common than most realize. "Progressives" hear stories like this and say, "well that is the exception, not the rule." Um, yeah...

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    Meh I don't see why people care about the whole Obama Care thing...

    No matter how your health care is paid for in the states -- all you receive are incompetent doctors dealing drugs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KimchiNinja View Post
    Meh I don't see why people care about the whole Obama Care thing...

    No matter how your health care is paid for in the states -- all you receive are incompetent doctors dealing drugs.
    IMO, you could not be more correct. It goes much further. Unhealthy foods that create obesity, & severe health problems are promoted by the FDA & Food Industry to MAXIMIZE profits for Big Pharma, doctors & hospitals.

    Iodine required for optimal health was removed from bread, milk & widespread public awareness to be replaced by disease causing bromide. Fluoride was added to our water supplies to make us sickly. Disease causing "Modern Wheat" is heavily promoted by the FDA & Big Business.
    Wheat Belly Blog | Lose the Wheat Lose the Weight

    All roads in the USA lead to the doctor's waiting rooms & hospitals where expensive drugs are sold to replace proper nutrients that could cure. Always Medicate to treat symptoms, never cure them with proper nutrition.

    My best example is iodine that cures fibrocystic breast disease, ovary cysts, uterus problems & thyroid problems are replaced by expensive drugs or surgeries. see our testimonials here:
    http://tinyurl.com/iodine-testimonials

    Another fantastic example is Multiple Sclerosis treated with drugs costing $60,000/yr is almost cured by special green raw diet:
    Minding Your Mitochondria: Dr. Terry Wahls at TEDxIowaCity - YouTube

    I could go on & on, so see my links:
    http://tinyurl.com/iodine-references

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    Quote Originally Posted by UpErMei View Post
    I knew a young woman who worked in government assistance and said the EXACT same thing. She said the women coming to her often had their nails done (ugly, but expensive) and carried tacky (but real and expensive) Coach logo bags. She told me she was often yelled at by these women...they got mad when they weren't given as much financial assistance as they expected/felt was due them! This young woman only worked the job for a few years before she finally had enough and quit. I don't think I could have stomached the job for more than 6 months!

    I think this "give me" attitude is a lot more common than most realize. "Progressives" hear stories like this and say, "well that is the exception, not the rule." Um, yeah...
    On some level I would love this job....just so I could smile happily when they didn't get what they expected to lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UpErMei View Post
    I knew a young woman who worked in government assistance and said the EXACT same thing. She said the women coming to her often had their nails done (ugly, but expensive) and carried tacky (but real and expensive) Coach logo bags. She told me she was often yelled at by these women...they got mad when they weren't given as much financial assistance as they expected/felt was due them! This young woman only worked the job for a few years before she finally had enough and quit. I don't think I could have stomached the job for more than 6 months!

    I think this "give me" attitude is a lot more common than most realize. "Progressives" hear stories like this and say, "well that is the exception, not the rule." Um, yeah...
    We often hear that there is no difference between the Republicans & Democrats. This is exactly true. Both parties have been taken over by the Progressive Party. The progressives could not lose in the last presidential election. Hillary, Obama, & McCain were all Progressives.

    We have 2 unofficial parties. The "Progressive Democrats of America" and the "Tea Party"

    PDA represents communism
    The Tea Party represents freedom

    The new political choice in America is clear cut. Do we want Communism or Freedom?
    I choose the Tea Party:
    15 Non-negotiable Core Beliefs
    1. Illegal aliens are here illegally.
    2. Pro-domestic employment is indispensable.
    3. A strong military is essential.
    4. Special interests must be eliminated.
    5. Gun ownership is sacred.
    6. Government must be downsized.
    7. The national budget must be balanced.
    8. Deficit spending must end.
    9. Bailout and stimulus plans are illegal.
    10. Reducing personal income taxes is a must.
    11. Reducing business income taxes is mandatory.
    12. Political offices must be available to average citizens.
    13. Intrusive government must be stopped.
    14. English as our core language is required.
    15. Traditional family values are encouraged.
    https://www.teaparty.org/about-us/
    The Tea Party makes Obama LIVID! The political battles between Obama & his Progressive Party & the Tea Party are INTENSE, as we have seen in the shutdown. IMO, the worst of these battles are yet to come. Obama & the Progressives want UNLIMITED government & the Tea Party wants the opposite. Make your next vote count. What do you really want? Everyone must choose sides before it is too late.

    The next election already has George Soros (financial backer of PDA) supporting Hillary with his BILLIONS.
    George Soros backs pro-Hillary Clinton super PAC
    In the link, remove "Democratic" and replace with "Progressive." Hillary is a Progressive and said she is Proud of It.

    The individual must go, be squashed into submission. Individualism is their enemy, thinking people cannot be tolerated. Haven’t you read the new lesson books** for our school children? You tell me what that is all about? Changing our history, because the U.S. Constitution is in their way.

    The Corporate Socialist now call themselves, progressive patriots. As they try and hide their true intentions.

    Hillary Clinton uncloaked herself in our 2008 campaign.
    “Early 20th Century Progressive”, Hillary Proudly Proclaimed To The World — You Remember? | Tarpon's Swamp
    This is all real, folks. Obama has just uncloaked himself, too. Progressives are coming out of the closet, and their hatred of freedom & the constitution shows.

    PS) ** The new lesson books for children represents "Common Core." Yes, Obama & his Progressives are secretly indoctrinating children into communism at an early age under the name of "Common Core." They are too smart to put this training into books for fear that parents will find out. Common core is on-line and in teaching materials. Don't take my word for this, do your own research.

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    WHO IS OBAMA ?

    What did he mean, "Transform The United States?"
    What is a "Community Organizer?"

    Here is the complete answer:
    The Fabian Society began in England in 1887 by a very small group of elitist socialist that sought to reform society gradually into one of socialism instead of through violent revolution. At first their purpose was to be an alternative in Britain for the more dominate Marxist Social-Democratic Federation, but their true goal was to accomplish socialism through a very gradual process using the voting booth and representative democracy as their instrument of change. In fact, one of their symbols is a Turtle with the motto: "When I Strike, I Strike Hard". Another symbol is the Wolf in Sheep's Clothing and the Globe on an Anvil being hammered into the Fabian model.

    The Fabian Plan for gradual Socialist Revolution was as definitive as it possibly could be, to say it has been a conspiracy is simplistic in the extreme. It instituted a widespread educational program for its leadership and its minions, as time progressed, it opened schools, such as the London School of Economics, and the New School of Social Research.

    One stroke of genius was that instead of advocating a Socialist State, they assisted in the implementation of the Welfare State, which as we should all know is merely a few steps away from a purely Socialistic State. It was, of course, implemented gradually, and played upon the weaknesses of human nature to gain popularity. Unlike the usual Socialist points of views, the Fabians didn't advocate complete State ownership of businesses, industry, agriculture or land, instead they sought to involve the State into very specific areas of importance such as electric power production, transportation, precious metals and of course, credit. The remaining balance of economic systems would be left to the private sector however; it would be highly regulated by the State and operated according to the wishes of the State.

    If you look at Britain, you will see that they accomplished their goals with ease and while American has been more difficult, the goals are the same and they have made enormous advances toward those goals, as we all know. Much of their accomplishments have been realized without using that dreaded word: Socialism. They have brought the Fabian Dream to America through an extremely brilliant system that has been openly accepted by the voters of this country without the hint of suspicion on their part that they were voting a Socialistic system into place.

    Now, make no mistake about it, Fabian Socialists are Statist, they are absolutely authoritarian in their philosophy. Their long-term goal has always been a Socialistic Dictatorship with full-imposition of a very legalistic society where the individual is simply a part of the collective. An example of this can be found in the writings of one of the founders of the Fabian Society, George Bernard Shaw speaking of the Socialist Utopia, he said: "Under Socialism, you would not be allowed to be poor. You would be forcibly fed, clothed, lodged, taught, and employed whether you liked it or not. If it were discovered that you had not the character and industry enough to be worth all this trouble, you might possibly be executed in a kindly manner; but whilst you were permitted to live, you would have to live well." The rest of the story here:
    A Fabian Socialist Dream Come True
    This link explains Obama Care perfectly, and explains exactly where Obama & his Progressives are taking our country. We are about to lose our country to the Fabian Socialist Party, an no one seems to care.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UpErMei View Post
    I knew a young woman who worked in government assistance and said the EXACT same thing. She said the women coming to her often had their nails done (ugly, but expensive) and carried tacky (but real and expensive) Coach logo bags. She told me she was often yelled at by these women...they got mad when they weren't given as much financial assistance as they expected/felt was due them! This young woman only worked the job for a few years before she finally had enough and quit. I don't think I could have stomached the job for more than 6 months!

    I think this "give me" attitude is a lot more common than most realize. "Progressives" hear stories like this and say, "well that is the exception, not the rule." Um, yeah...
    My best friend is currently working the same type of job for a county in the foothills of northern CA. At least half of her stories everyday fit into the above category...like, to the word.

    When I was an EMT, we did a lot of medical transfers. Almost every time that we had someone on MediCal (basically welfare medical coverage in CA) they would have a family member there just like above...their homes would have brand new TVs or there would be new, nice cars in the driveway, etc.

    Yeah, there are people that legitimately need help. But in my personal experience, the vast majority are lazy thieves that are only gaming the system.

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