Off topic question (the whole "looking out for other people" line got me thinking), but if you had about $500, what type of charity, or charities, would be most deserving? Anybody can answer.
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I think the hard thing is that we don't know when someone has no quality of life left. Last year, my dad was on a feeding tube, out of it mentally, in a bed in a "facility" and my wish was that he would die soon instead of suffering. It took a lot of money and pain on his part but now he is back home, eating some foods, enjoying his grand kids and has a decent quality of life.Right, but when does looking out for each other mean letting someone die?
I'm glad he got more time to have a good life.
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Yeah, you're not always in all cases sure if it's the end of someone's life. But if you are, I think the best thing is to die at home. That's how it used to be done and how it's still done when people have loved ones who know that is what you want. But you really have to argue pretty hard to allow someone to die at home. When my grandmother was dying my mother took her home from the hospital so she could die at home. She faced a LOT of wrath from the people at church. It was really awful. She cried daily about it, wondering if she made the right decision. But it's what her mother wanted and so she held her ground, but she was all alone with her grief.
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Speaking as a Canadian, it seems to me that Obamacare is just a tax that's being framed as something other than a tax.
In Canada, we pay far more income tax and other tax than in the States. One of the main things we get out of it is state run health care. It seems to me that the US government is trying to institute something similar, but in a completely half-assed way. No one wants to have their taxes raised to pay for health care, but everyone is ENTITLED to health care, right? So make everyone get insurance! Of course then the people who make more or who aren't sick will have to pay more for the people who are sick... so it might as well be a tax. It's just not called a tax. That's just my take on it though. I honestly don't much care since it doesn't affect me at all...
Wildrose has a point, and I have learned a lot after visiting Canada and getting to know the system there as opposed to in the USA. Everyone says the USA has a great system, but consider this: The USA spends more tax dollars than any other country on healthcare, and yet not everyone is covered. This makes no sense. Where is this money going? The other nations such as Canada with a "socialist" medicine cover everyone. Even worse, when you factor in all of our taxes, fees and regulations in the USA, we pay a comparable amount in taxes to Canada and other nations that have "socialist" medicine. And on top of that, those of us with health insurance have to pay premiums. I have estimated that in the last 20 years I have paid close to $80k in premiums alone, while many people I know have never paid anything.
So basically, what our government is doing is taking our money, giving us nothing in return. When we ask for something in return, they say, "No, that's socialism, and that's not American. Get your own insurance and pay your own bills with what is leftover after our take."
I don't care if you are Republican, Democrat, libertarian, etc., you are giving your money away for it to be used in ways that never directly or even indirectly benefit you or your families. At least the nations with universal healthcare give something back and more in the form of real, tangible benefits.
Don't get me wrong, I am not saying I am for or against universal healthcare or Obamacare. I am just against paying in and not benefiting.
Some people get a lot in return. I think a big difference between countries where socialism works....and the US are the number of people in the US that live in persistant poverty and don't pay in to our system. We have a bunch of people (not just elderly) that do not support themselves or make so little that they pay no taxes (beyond SS and medicaid).So basically, what our government is doing is taking our money, giving us nothing in return.
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I think Magnolia makes a very good point....and it is one that a lot of people on the US left do not like to hear, as much as an inconvenient reality it is. I would rank the problems with US healthcare like this:
1) "The Cost Monster", which I have laid out already.
2) Magnolia's point: there are just SO MANY sick people. By the time you add it all up, you end up with a small number of younger, healthy, employed people paying out the nose for an overwhelming number that are either too poor to afford anything, are disabled (sometimes falsely), elderly, or otherwise skip the system and end up with a 600k ER bill everyone else has to eventually pay for.
3) A completely botched end-of-life mentality. I have seen a bill for 3.4 million dollars on a patient that had NO chance of leaving, to anyone with an educated medical opinion. She was 87, in liver and renal failure, and had lost innervation out of C4. ("C-3,4, and 5.....keep the diaphragm alive, as we learned) She was never leaving. Her family refused to give in, and Medicare with her supplemental took it all....YOU ended up paying for that. This happens every day.
I think that cost could be tackled head-on, with huge gains made, but most of these counties like NZ, Canada, and the UK (becoming less so) do not have 65% of their population requiring more care than they could afford. This all goes into prevention and our entire toxic environment, which others are better at commenting about than myself.
You could almost make the point to a 3rd grader:
"Billy. See how we put ten people on this side of the room? Now, do you think those people can pay for the care of the thirty people on the other side, without the government essentially stealing it?"
Those ratios need to move to really get much done.
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