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    I think you can reform a sweet tooth that is calibrated to SAD sweets. I have a sweet tooth, but normal sweets taste like hell to me now (too sweet). I think we tend to crave what our body needs once we eliminate chemical foods. So when I want something sweet, some fruit seems to do the trick.
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    There seems to be a good portion of people who can't do the VLC thing without a lot of problems. I'm one of them. It's kind of a disservice to call any whole food more or less healthy than another. Really, if you wake up, crave something sweet and eat a banana and feel better, that's a healthy solution, not feeding a sugar addiction. I noticed when I did VLC that when I craved something sweet and denied myself, I'd end up way overeating random stuff. Like, hmmm, I can't have a banana, so I'll eat a cup of nuts, then an egg, then a burger, then half an avocado. LOL, I just needed some sugar and carbs from the banana.

    I dunno, if you need more carbs and sugar, you need it. It's not an addiction.
    Even on very low carb, there is room for a banana or two in my life! They bloat me terribly, but once in awhile - it's just food! Eat it!


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    Wouldn't snacking be like grazing? And isn't grazing one of the thing we avoid?

    As to dessert type foods made with healthier options, as you can see, there are basically two camps. Those that believe it's okay to create this treats, and those that call them Faileo.

    For me, it's a gradation of health. If for eg., you start at point A where you have a lot of wheat, legumes, processed/fake foods, industrial oils, and added sugar in your diet, and a year later, you're at point B eating wholesomely raised animals, organic vegetables, and have basically eliminated the worst of the poisons, even the occasional SAD sweet isn't going to kill you unless you have a specific allergy, etc.

    There are plenty of people who use their 20 for things like protein/whey/gelatin supplementation, so I don't see why the occasional snack is worse. For the die-hard, 100%ers, it may seem terrible. But if I wake up full of energy, don't have to take any medications, can walk home from almost anywhere in the city, I'm not going to lose any of my eight hours of sleep because I ate some dates wrapped in bacon and dipped in dark chocolate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wattfood View Post
    I wouldn't really say I have a sugar addiction, my vice was always the salty snacks, I'm just thinking for those days when you just HAVE to have something.

    To me it's almost like healthy junk food, certainly not honest primal, it wouldn't feel right to be trading in my 12 almonds for a cookie at morning tea.


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    Quote Originally Posted by not on the rug View Post
    You don't ever "HAVE' to have something. That type of thinking is what got you to where you are today. Eat whole foods and concentrate on your goals. Forget about the faileo stuff until you are in a better place and mindset
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    I view a snack as a thumbs down review of the previous meal. When I'm cooking properly snacks have no place. When we're legitimately hungry we need protein and not carb/fat. If this is a frequent issue keep some boring boiled eggs, chicken breasts, tuna, or cottage cheese on hand and work on reinforcing the meals.

    That's not the same thing as carb/fat party recipes (cookies etc.) Denying their place in culture and banning them forever just for the martyrbation is not ideal, but keep them infrequent and social. It's the difference between "fillup foods" and "flavor foods".
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    Staying PB / Paleo while snacking? Where is the line.... ?

    I don't make paleo desserts. I don't see the point when I can just eat real dessert: fruit, whipped coconut cream, sorbet, dark chocolate, jello, flan, choco pudding with gelatin. If I am feeling fancy I will make a gluten free cake like I did for my birthday.

    I might make some pumpkin cheesecake with whipped coconut cream topping soon though for when my friends comes to visit me.




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    Don't make the paleo treats a staple, but for special occasions that stuff is just fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by turquoisepassion View Post

    I might make some pumpkin cheesecake with whipped coconut cream topping soon though for when my friends comes to visit me.




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    How about making that for your friends in nj?
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    Quote Originally Posted by picklepete View Post
    I view a snack as a thumbs down review of the previous meal.
    This is an excellent way of putting it. It took me a while to let go of some of my old ideas about portion control and just eat enough at meals.

    One of my objectives is to keep blood sugar/insulin as low as possible for as much of the day as possible. Snacking doesn't help with that.

    Quote Originally Posted by turquoisepassion View Post
    I don't make paleo desserts. I don't see the point when I can just eat real dessert: fruit, whipped coconut cream, sorbet, dark chocolate, jello, flan, choco pudding with gelatin. If I am feeling fancy I will make a gluten free cake like I did for my birthday.
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    There are so many desserts and savory party foods that are naturally grain free. IMO, the root/nut flour versions of grain foods are disappointing enough that I just don't bother any more. I will have cake or bread with wheat when I'm eating out now and then, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by not on the rug View Post
    How about making that for your friends in nj?
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