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Thread: The metabolic advantage hypothesis

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drumroll View Post
    Ah, so if I read this right, Choco thinks a certain macro ratio is necessary for weightloss, and yet, calories in, calories out is all that matters?

    Contradictory much?

    And I totally missed this post earlier. My bad. Heh.
    Even your trolling is bad.
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    I think calories in calories out still matters, it's just that certain foods like sugar are more thermogenic than fats, leading to a higher "calories out."

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    Well apparently now he believes that it doesn't matter how hungry you are because your metabolism will just speed up to accommodate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by max219 View Post
    I think calories in calories out still matters, it's just that certain foods like sugar are more thermogenic than fats, leading to a higher "calories out."
    People around here seem to only acknowledge the "CI" side but don't realize the "CO" side is variable as well.
    Quote Originally Posted by sbhikes View Post
    Well apparently now he believes that it doesn't matter how hungry you are because your metabolism will just speed up to accommodate.
    What are you talking about? There is no point in talking to you right now because you only want to argue and clearly are not listening. I'll be more than happy to discuss this at a time you actually would like to have a discussion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChocoTaco369 View Post
    People around here seem to only acknowledge the "CI" side but don't realize the "CO" side is variable as well.

    What are you talking about? There is no point in talking to you right now because you only want to argue and clearly are not listening. I'll be more than happy to discuss this at a time you actually would like to have a discussion.
    Why is it that when someone politely asks you to explain your position, so they might understand it better and learn, you talk in circles and/or turn things back on them trying to make them seem less than?

    And please, answer my direct question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sbhikes View Post
    Well apparently now he believes that it doesn't matter how hungry you are because your metabolism will just speed up to accommodate.
    It's true anyway. calorie intake in excess is sensed by the brain, which activates thermogenesis as a means of preventing obesity.

    Protein, sugar, and salt are thermogenic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChocoTaco369 View Post
    People around here seem to only acknowledge the "CI" side but don't realize the "CO" side is variable as well.
    Funny thing, I've started drinking a gainer and it's been two weeks. I expected to gain but the scale is the same.
    How could it be while I'm increasing my CI? More carbs = harder, longer workouts = my CO has increased as well.
    Although I still weigh the same I definitely gained lean mass while losing body fat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sbhikes View Post
    Well apparently now he believes that it doesn't matter how hungry you are because your metabolism will just speed up to accommodate.
    I see, I see...
    "The cling and a clang is the metal in my head when I walk. I hear a sort of, this tinging noise - cling clang. The cling clang. So many things happen while walking. The metal in my head clangs and clings as I walk - freaks my balance out. So the natural thought is just clogged up. Totally clogged up. So we need to unplug these dams, and make the the natural flow... It sort of freaks me out. We need to unplug the dams. You cannot stop the natural flow of thought with a cling and a clang..."

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChocoTaco369 View Post
    Even your trolling is bad.
    Wait, I was trolling?
    "The cling and a clang is the metal in my head when I walk. I hear a sort of, this tinging noise - cling clang. The cling clang. So many things happen while walking. The metal in my head clangs and clings as I walk - freaks my balance out. So the natural thought is just clogged up. Totally clogged up. So we need to unplug these dams, and make the the natural flow... It sort of freaks me out. We need to unplug the dams. You cannot stop the natural flow of thought with a cling and a clang..."

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    Clearly by looking at all the plateaus around here brought on by prolonged low carbohydrate dieting, paired with stores of hair loss, cold hands and feet and the chills while eating, the metabolic rate surely can drop below the hunger suppressive effects.

    And that's another strike against low carbohydrate dieting for performance and athleticism. If muscle gain is the goal, you definitely don't want a diet that suppresses appetite. You want a diet that encourages eating, particularly after a heavy workout. It's no surprise that post-workout, not only is appetite strongest but insulin sensitivity is highest. Your body is begging for carbohydrate and protein, not fat.


    Except for the army of people for whom none of this is true. And eating a crap ton of protein after hunting down an animal definitely means a blood sugar spike, and insulin sensitivity would be very useful then, indeed!
    Steak, eggs, potatoes - fruits, nuts, berries and forage. Coconut milk and potent herbs and spices. Tea instead of coffee now and teeny amounts of kelp daily. Let's see how this does! Not really had dairy much, and gut seems better for it.

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