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    As for the gym, I implemented the ice-cream workout (curtsey of Adrian and Shadowknight; the latter of whom needs to get his arse back on here asap) and it was quite good; however, I don't think I pushed myself as hard as I could - I hadn't done the majority of lifts before so I took it slightly easier in order to get my form right the first time

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    So how'd you find the workout overall? In my opinion it's bloody incredible. Expands on Stronglifts/SS with the compound lifts and allows focus on vanity muscles for those who want to - I really like it. Thinking of going back to it. I've just been doing it - exact same routine - over four days, so Bench/Press two days and Squat/Deads two days. A bit more like 5/3/1, actually... Gah, 5/3/1 of ICF? So hard to decide.

    Quote Originally Posted by ebrady98 View Post
    Yeah, I think the way how the "ideal" body is so thin that it's unattainable for most is really sad. Instead of encouraging individuals to be healthy: be it lean, thin, muscular, chubby, whatever; there's a sort of pressure to just be thin. And it's most places, too. : (

    Not to say the outside pressure caused me to binge. Most people don't like being fat.
    Health/Happiness > Body image.

    I seriously don't get how people don't get it. Who is happier? That woman with the slight "muffin top" happily married to a man who will do anything for her who she has three kids with, or the starving runway model with about as little sexual motivation as a dead mouse?
    With the exception of those into both necrophilia and beastiality, I believe most would realise the former trumps the latter.

    Quote Originally Posted by ebrady98 View Post
    And yeah I agree primal foods - cc and fruit, dark chocolate, meat, eggs - taste so much better than 90% of junk (allowing for properly made cake and ice cream...nom...)

    And yeah, true : ) I've had worse binges; and that wasn't even a binge. Just overeating really.
    I agree wholeheartedly... There is absolutely no such thing as a gluten-free or Primal/Paleo or any substitue whatsoever for some of the stuff I had pre-Coeliacs.
    Ice cream cake? Cheesecakes from the cheesecake shop? Weet-bix chocolate brownies? Chocolate brownies with vanilla ice cream? No. Bloody. Sub.

    That said, simplicity is also delicious. Fried eggs and potato? Amazing. Ditto with bacon and eggs, steak and veg, etc.

    Quote Originally Posted by ebrady98 View Post
    Actually, things are better now. Ever since I sat her down and explained whole foods for health, she's eased up a little; it's really helped that an advocate for saturated fat came on BBC, which they watch every morning. I've also got a new program for the gym, and I go 3-4x per week: so there's nothing she can say about exercise. She knows that I'm strong, and that I'm healthy. She's now realised that the body-and-food checks never worked. I mean, I know it was done with the best intentions: but I'm a paranoid teenage girl who doesn't know a lot about primal, but still the gists; and she's an older slimmer woman armed with "Healthy CW" knowledge. It was never gonna work out well. I think we're mostly on mutual terms now, thanks to science which she can't ignore and my stubbornness ; )
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    Quote Originally Posted by ebrady98 View Post
    Of course, he's just cut out gluten - I don't wanna bombard him yet, or he'll just dismiss whatever I have to say - but since Swedish CW has professed their disdain for low-fat-whole-grain dogma, that may help too. I frequently tell them how I'm going to move to Sweden because it's so progressive ; )
    Congratulations on getting your parents to come around! They may still have some way to go, but hey, you may be able to save them from silliness yet

    Quote Originally Posted by ebrady98 View Post
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    I mean, I know it's only like one thing...it's just, and this may be irrational: 550 junk calories, with tonnes of sugar and fat. Ugh, I sound like one of those ones. The ones who are really scared of food and whom I feel bad for.
    Did you enjoy those 550calories? What is wrong with sugar, and what is wrong with fat? The only flaw I saw in what you did is that it was milk chocolate. The shame! Lol, but in all seriousness, if you enjoy milk chocolate, it is fine, and provided you enjoy it, their really shouldn't be a problem.

    IMHO - yes, again I'm going to say it, and it has everything to do with age - at your age you should not at all be focusing on calories, but just on what your body wants.

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    Also, I feel bad because I'm having a takeaway curry tonight and some coconut macadmaia balls; and treats are good for the mind yada yada. Nevertheless, there is a part of me telling me this will make me balloon or interfere with any progress I may be having. And I just wanna be lean. Not even skinny! Just, lean and strong. Not fat from 100g of sugar or whatever.
    How lean? What does lean do? I get kinda how seeing all your muscle gainz can feel pretty awesome, but other than that, leanness is failry valueness.

    For what it's worth, this might sound really lame and pathetic and I once tried to reassure a friend with it and it went way over her head, but when I say there is absoluteky no chance whatsoever of you becoming one of those very overweight/obese people ridiculed/pitied/stereotyped you see all around us. No chance whatsoever.
    Ebrady, you have made a concious decision to be healthy, both in diet and activity. You lift 3-4 times a week and eat mainly whole foods - so again, for what little it's worth, you will always be, in terms of physical attractiveness from a body fat %/ "weight" perspective, leagues ahead of 80% of the Western population.

    Provided you just eat mainly whole foods when you are hungry, lift, sprint maybe once every now and then and just act alive you wil be fine. Just maybe find a hobby, totally unrelated to health/nutrition. Maybe write a book or set some video game goals. Hell, meet some boy and maybe catch a film. I don't know.

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    I got a picture of the mouldy raspberries...
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    Btw, I have a bone to pick with you, my dear EBrady.

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    ^Dahell? I thought you enjoyed carbs and all that. I leave for a week and you say that? Dammit, you

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowknight137 View Post
    So how'd you find the workout overall? In my opinion it's bloody incredible. Expands on Stronglifts/SS with the compound lifts and allows focus on vanity muscles for those who want to - I really like it. Thinking of going back to it. I've just been doing it - exact same routine - over four days, so Bench/Press two days and Squat/Deads two days. A bit more like 5/3/1, actually... Gah, 5/3/1 of ICF? So hard to decide.
    *gasps* he's back!

    Yeah, Blaha said that in his video: that he doesn't find Stronglifts "enough" but I suppose it's good for people who despise the gym but still want "that gym look"

    Anyway, yeah, I really like it. Do ICF! Join ussss *.*

    Idk, i think it'd just be better for an all-round workout...and maybe good for me; as I have the ridiculous tendency to build huuuuge shoulders and a huuuge back and arse (not even joking, my arse is the size of Jupiter. I was being hyperbolic for the others. Not my arse) to balance me out a little.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowknight137 View Post
    Health/Happiness > Body image.

    I seriously don't get how people don't get it.
    *whispers Patriarchy*

    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowknight137 View Post
    Who is happier? That woman with the slight "muffin top" happily married to a man who will do anything for her who she has three kids with, or the starving runway model with about as little sexual motivation as a dead mouse?
    With the exception of those into both necrophilia and beastiality, I believe most would realise the former trumps the latter.
    Unfortunately for teh big companies, happiness and contentedness doesn't make money. I dunno: keep people hating themselves, and they spend more money on diet stuffs...or is that morbid?

    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowknight137 View Post
    I agree wholeheartedly... There is absolutely no such thing as a gluten-free or Primal/Paleo or any substitue whatsoever for some of the stuff I had pre-Coeliacs.
    Ice cream cake? Cheesecakes from the cheesecake shop? Weet-bix chocolate brownies? Chocolate brownies with vanilla ice cream? No. Bloody. Sub.

    That said, simplicity is also delicious. Fried eggs and potato? Amazing. Ditto with bacon and eggs, steak and veg, etc.
    Precisely. And unfortunately. However! Baked apple and ice cream. Hnnng.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowknight137 View Post
    Congratulations on getting your parents to come around! :) They may still have some way to go, but hey, you may be able to save them from silliness yet :p
    Thanks :)

    And yeah, perhaps. My dad is getting really frustrated with his lack of weightloss; especially after trying "everything". He'll never eat red meat again, that's for sure, but maybe i can replace his cakes (even though they are gluten free) with fruit, or potatoes, or rice?

    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowknight137 View Post
    Did you enjoy those 550calories? What is wrong with sugar, and what is wrong with fat? The only flaw I saw in what you did is that it was milk chocolate. The shame! Lol, but in all seriousness, if you enjoy milk chocolate, it is fine, and provided you enjoy it, their really shouldn't be a problem.
    *mumbles* nuffin in particular.

    Sorry sir ;) it goes without saying that dark is better! Honest! I just had a mega craving for it that particular day. And yep, I did indeed enjoy it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowknight137 View Post
    IMHO - yes, again I'm going to say it, and it has everything to do with age - at your age you should not at all be focusing on calories, but just on what your body wants.
    I know, I know...the teenage years are messed up. Why adolescence. Why.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowknight137 View Post
    How lean? What does lean do? I get kinda how seeing all your muscle gainz can feel pretty awesome, but other than that, leanness is failry valueness.
    To look good in clothes and to outrun and outlift everyone? :P

    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowknight137 View Post
    For what it's worth, this might sound really lame and pathetic and I once tried to reassure a friend with it and it went way over her head, but when I say there is absoluteky no chance whatsoever of you becoming one of those very overweight/obese people ridiculed/pitied/stereotyped you see all around us. No chance whatsoever.
    Ebrady, you have made a concious decision to be healthy, both in diet and activity. You lift 3-4 times a week and eat mainly whole foods - so again, for what little it's worth, you will always be, in terms of physical attractiveness from a body fat %/ "weight" perspective, leagues ahead of 80% of the Western population.
    Actually, that's fairly comforting.

    Yet I'm not so sure...I gain weight pretty easily, y'know. And I'm rather uneducated on obesity, so forgive me: but why are some people obese and others just a little chubby? Metabolic response? Genetics? What?

    I guess...thanks.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowknight137 View Post
    Provided you just eat mainly whole foods when you are hungry, lift, sprint maybe once every now and then and just act alive you wil be fine. Just maybe find a hobby, totally unrelated to health/nutrition. Maybe write a book or set some video game goals. Hell, meet some boy and maybe catch a film. I don't know.
    Actually, I'm trying to learn French :') I'm also a very avid reader; writing a book would be awesome and soul-crushing at the same time. Because I can't write :P

    Ooh, speaking of games: I am sooo getting The Last of Us when I have money. I watched the intro on YouTube and it is the best. I also want Beyond Two Souls; Dying Light; GTA...and others.

    As for meeting a boy...well, I'd need a net, and maybe some chlorophyll, depending on how much of a fight he uts up.

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    do you liiiiike it?

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    Btw, I have a bone to pick with you, my dear EBrady.

    ^Dahell? :confused: I thought you enjoyed carbs and all that. I leave for a week and you say that? Dammit, you :p
    *giggles* I know, i'm sorry. I was curious. And I wanted opinions from those more intelligent and experienced than I.

    Do not worry! They have the same outlook as you. I shall still enjoy DC, rice, potatoes, and fruit.

    Ahh, Shadowknight, it's a good job you're around here to smack some sense into us darn kids. I mean, it would make sense, with you being a teacher and all; but you have a lot of patience :P

    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowknight137 View Post
    How've been? What are you up to? Reading any books, lately? I strongly recommend Skulduggery Pleasant
    I'm good! i'm reading Revolutionary Road atm. It's fairly depressing, but hey, i love me some depressing literature.

    I've heard good things about SP! I'll have to pick up a copy when I eventually get my arse to the library.

    Will reply to your thread soon. "Higher Mathematics" calls my name. -.-

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    Eating has been so bad today...for one, I ate too much paleo food this morning...then I ate like 120g of dark chocolate and a handful of candy.

    I really need to exercise some self control around other people. That's twice this week that I've ate bad food.

    Ah well. Next week I shan't eat bad food. Riiiight...

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    I just have one question.....HOW R U ABLE TO EAT THAT MUCH DC?? Its toooooo rich like doesnt it get bland and kinda gross after a while?
    Or do u eat it throughout the day ? And what kind of DC do u eat like wat percentage?

    Bt like shadownight said we r supposed to eat depending on wat our body "asks" for .....so yaaaa like wat did u eat today other than the DC .....like that would be like 650cal so its nt HHUGE I feel like im getting off strong here sry about that im just curious

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    Quote Originally Posted by egyption grok View Post
    I just have one question.....HOW R U ABLE TO EAT THAT MUCH DC??
    Because I'm an animal. ;)

    Quote Originally Posted by egyption grok View Post
    Its toooooo rich like doesnt it get bland and kinda gross after a while?
    :p Or do u eat it throughout the day ? And what kind of DC do u eat like wat percentage? :D
    Idk, I just have an inclination towards strong and rich flavours I guess. Mind you, i know what you mean: if I don't eat DC for, say, a week, then have a bit; the flavour is so much nicer and more appreciated then if you eat a bar a day :P I just nom on it while I'm busy doing s/t usually - in this case, maths revision.

    I eat Green & Black's 85% - easily accessible, relatively cheap, and absolutely delicious ;D

    Quote Originally Posted by egyption grok View Post
    Bt like shadownight said we r supposed to eat depending on wat our body "asks" for .....so yaaaa like wat did u eat today other than the DC .....like that would be like 650cal so its nt HHUGE :) I feel like im getting off strong here :p sry about that im just curious :p
    Haha, it's fine! I like talking to y'all and I appreciate you posting here :3

    What I ate today shall be posted below ;)

    28/10/13
    Today was weird, in terms of mood. This morning, I awoke in a panicked state; I had a nightmare, and all I remember of it was that people I love were in danger and people I know fairly well were sort of lurking, watching us. After that dream I dreamt that I procrastinated so much I missed school and my exams; therefore I obviously failed. Looking back on it it's quite funny now; especially since I'd probably do something like that :') but, like all nightmares, at the time it was horrible - and consequently I woke up to not the best start.

    My parents were out of the house when I got up, as they were at a race. The memory fresh on my mind, I sat down to do some revision...and I ate soooo much. Literally just ate food all morning. It was all primal food at that point, but later on I ate some shite too :(

    I hurredly got ready cos otherwise I was gonna be late for an event as per, and I rode my bike down to my friend's house. We watched the football game: Newcastle vs Sunderland, two huge rival teams round here. 50% of my friends were Newcastle supporters and 50% were Sunderland :') Sunderland won, so obviously some friends were raging and some smug. Personally i've never really *gotten* football, so I don't care either way.

    Unfortunately at my friend's house the junk food eating commenced along with the weird mood. One friend had a sharing bag of mini Wispa bites, and I took a few handfuls. It was mindless eating! I didn't really enjoy it at all: the flavours weren't complex enough to justify it being a good treat; it was just sickly sugar. Yet I ate as I watched. I also had a few "refresher" sweets (candies) and lollipops; not that nice again, but mindless eating. Even though I didn't eat that many I felt sick yet hungry at the same time, despite eating a lot this morning.

    As the game progressed my mood worsened and worsened. I didn't really want to talk to anyone, and I just wanted to be at home. It felt like my brain couldn't breathe. I was being sapped of energy and the only way to conserve was to just not talk and concentrate on my own thoughts. Which sounds selfish, because I was with people, and I already daydream and spend enough time alone! I excused myself early and went home.

    Thankfully, my mood has now increased: i've been reading and listening to music and the quiet time has done me some good. Don't get me wrong: I love my friends, and I love seeing them, but sometimes I'm just not in the mood to socialise. We all are like this, i guess. And maybe I was extra teenagey today: I felt a little weepy earlier, and now I'm mega tired, even though I haven't done anything particularly taxing. Add in the extensive eating and you conclude that I'm having a growth spurt! if only. It's always good to be taller ;D

    Breakfast
    4 fried eggs; 3 rice cakes, 2 with cc, one without; 100g dark chocolate; apple and some grapes; cup of tea with honey.
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    Snack(sssss)
    20g dark chocolate; handful of wispa milk choc (ew) handful of candy (ew) Haagen-Dazs mini tub vanilla ice cream (YUM) 30g cashew nuts

    Dinner: Lamb curry with rice
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    Dessert: berries and mango with yoghurt (the pic looked prettier without yoghurt)
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    So now I'm trying to learn circle theorem. It's proving to be more tedious than first expected.

    I'm hoping tomorrow I'll be a) in a better mood, and b) more mindful of my food consumption. I'm going to the gym, though, which always puts me in a good mood; and a different friend is having us round his tomorrow so hopefully my good mood will be a more social and less brooding/weepy Emma.
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    Wait ....... how is that a lot of food ?? I dnt get it !
    Bt anyway the food looks amazing , nice to see a new breakfast

    And I just said this to adrian, we all sometimes feel down for no apparent reason ... we just gt to go through it and stop trying to prevent it bec it makes it worse and u start getting pissed on others and cause others to be In a mood...... so it ws a good idea to just sat and went through it
    sry u had to go through it though and I'm glad that nw u feel better

    Reading does it for me bt music makes me more upset and annoyed

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    Quote Originally Posted by egyption grok View Post
    Wait ....... how is that a lot of food ?? I dnt get it !
    Bt anyway the food looks amazing , nice to see a new breakfast
    How is it not? :/

    And what can I say: I am a womanchild of convenience and simplicity. (Aka, there's nothing else in the house to make a different breakfast)

    Quote Originally Posted by egyption grok View Post
    And I just said this to adrian, we all sometimes feel down for no apparent reason ... we just gt to go through it and stop trying to prevent it bec it makes it worse and u start getting pissed on others and cause others to be In a mood...... so it ws a good idea to just sat and went through it
    sry u had to go through it though and I'm glad that nw u feel better : )
    That's true suppressed feelings always come back in uglier forms.

    And thank you :3

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    Reading does it for me bt music makes me more upset and annoyed

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    29/10/13

    My mood was amazing today; my gym performance was not. I also ate like the absolute horse I am.

    I can never get thing right, can I.

    So today, after my failed performance at the gym, I rode my bike to my friend's house and we "revised" maths. Aka, we did about...a page? of work on direct and inverse proportion, and then just starting sloothing around and talking. And I'm going back later.

    I foresaw that I wouldn't get much work done. It's OK: I have the opportunity to do a lot of (solitary) work tomorrow, Wednesday and Thursday. According to the programme I'm using, I need two days off as a rest now as I've done Workout A/B/A (and I'm counting today's failed workout as one, because I figure there's a reason why I'm so fatigued today and this will probably be best for me) and on Thursday I start B/A/B.

    Hopefully I'm growing today. I ate a shitton of food; I'm exhausted despite having 10 hours of sleep; and my muscles didn't feel strong. I'm not coming down with something because I feel OK despite all this...here's hoping to growing and leaning out some more!

    Workout (if you can call it that)
    10 miles cycling
    4x5x40kg squat - I felt my form slipping and I was getting so tired in between sets so I stopped
    3x5x37kg bench press - again I wasn't feeling good so I stopped before I dropped the weight on my face or something

    And yeah. That's it.

    Now for the food, which is a longer entry...
    Breakfast
    3 eggs + some cheese + 2 bacon + cup of grapes + apple + 50g dark chocolate.

    Lunch: soup with bacon bits; bowl of fruit with Greek Yoghurt and a drizzle of honey
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    Snack: 20g dark choc, 4 wine gums (ik ik) cup of 2% milk

    Dinner: lamb steaks, mashed spud and veg + another bowl of fruit with 3 teaspoons yoghurt
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    Have a good night everyone!

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    Im so glad that your mood was great today don't worry about performance at gym. You should be happy as your muscles are tired and they will repakr themself and grow, because you delivered them some delicoius clean fuel good Job !



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