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    Do you think that the cult of Mars or Mithra or Demeter or Pan or Bacchus or Caesar claimed that only their cult knew the truth?

    You are divorcing the term "cult" from its historical definition and hijacking it to serve corporate culture industries.
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    Quote Originally Posted by magicmerl View Post
    I think that the difference between cults and mainstream christianity or politics or science is the claim to exclusive access to the truth.

    For example, baptists aren't a cult because they recognise that anglicans, presbyterians etc are all genuine believers as well. Whereas a cult like scientology doesn't just claim exclusive access to the truth, they also try to cut their members off from alternate views and engage in mind control/brainwashing.
    Lol. Baptist *may* concede another Christian has access.. Just like a scientologist thinks another scientologist has access. Christians think their religion is the one true religion. I have been told enough times I am going to hell by a Christian to know this. A lot of people laugh at how ridiculous Scientology is but come on... Gods with monkey or elephant heads or a billion hands? Pregnant virgins? Yeah. Soooo much less ridiculous. Don't tell me Christianity doesn't tell believers to not follow other ways of thought... Churchs against teaching evolution to kids, commandment by god to not worship other idols... Blah blah.

    If you aren't Christian, you are going to hell.

    If you don't vote democrat (or republican or whatever), you are stupid and unenlightened. (Many times I hear "omg you are republican/democrat? I thought you were smarter than that.")

    If you don't play the rules of the artificially constructed scientific method, your research is worthless. (Although I admit I subscribe to this cult myself, I find it funny that people seem to think logic > emotion when both are human )

    Cult is just a way of thinking, a system of beliefs that hasn't been expanded into mainstream. Human beings are made to group together and to exhibit in-group bias. No one will call his or her group as the cult. It is just a derogatory term for outsiders to demote a way of thought because the thought was weird to them.


    I recognize I will get a lot of flack for grouping quacks, scientists, Christians, politicians and scientologists together.
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    Any organization that is not "mainstream" can be considered a cult BY SOCIETY. The big, organized religions for example, will try to give cults a bad name because they can be competition in the future. Christianity was a cult when it first started because it was not "mainstream".

    Some may say the Tea Party is a political cult because it is not mainstream. The same can be said about the Paleo concept. The LCHF diet is another example. Not mainstream thinking at all so it gets attacked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Perfidy View Post
    Do you think that the cult of Mars or Mithra or Demeter or Pan or Bacchus or Caesar claimed that only their cult knew the truth?

    You are divorcing the term "cult" from its historical definition and hijacking it to serve corporate culture industries.
    The meaning of words evolved over time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by turquoisepassion View Post
    Lol. Baptist *may* concede another Christian has access.. Just like a scientologist thinks another scientologist has access. Christians think their religion is the one true religion. I have been told enough times I am going to hell by a Christian to know this.
    Please don't judge christianity by the the actions of an individual.

    Quote Originally Posted by turquoisepassion View Post
    A lot of people laugh at how ridiculous Scientology is but come on... Gods with monkey or elephant heads or a billion hands? Pregnant virgins? Yeah. Soooo much less ridiculous. Don't tell me Christianity doesn't tell believers to not follow other ways of thought... Churchs against teaching evolution to kids, commandment by god to not worship other idols... Blah blah.
    It's an unfortunate reality that the 'christians' which spend the most time promoting themselves and courting publicity are the de-facto public face of christianity, in the sense that they are all that non-christians see of christians, so that's what they think all christians believe.

    I personally find evolution to be a very compelling arguement.

    Quote Originally Posted by turquoisepassion View Post
    If you aren't Christian, you are going to hell.
    I don't think this is true (I think a more accurate interpretation is if you've *rejected* christ then you don't get to be with him in heaven). I think it's also up for debate as to what exactly 'hell' is.

    Quote Originally Posted by turquoisepassion View Post
    If you don't vote democrat (or republican or whatever), you are stupid and unenlightened. (Many times I hear "omg you are republican/democrat? I thought you were smarter than that.")
    You're right, and the only conclusion I can reach is, those differing viewpoints don't matter nearly as much as people think they do.

    Quote Originally Posted by turquoisepassion View Post
    Cult is just a way of thinking, a system of beliefs that hasn't been expanded into mainstream. Human beings are made to group together and to exhibit in-group bias. No one will call his or her group as the cult. It is just a derogatory term for outsiders to demote a way of thought because the thought was weird to them.

    I recognize I will get a lot of flack for grouping quacks, scientists, Christians, politicians and scientologists together.
    Well, that's your definition of the term. I personally use a different definition.
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    Magicmerl, you are probably Christian, right? Of course you wouldn't say it is a cult....
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    Quote Originally Posted by turquoisepassion View Post
    Magicmerl, you are probably Christian, right? Of course you wouldn't say it is a cult....
    Probably.....
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    well, i definitely think cults have a bad name because the original term basically means "to cultivate" and was widely used to just refer to any sort of discipline or practice that someone might undertake.

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    Baptists don't recognize each other at the liquor store.
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