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    Employers today - what is going on?

    I am a 64 year old Paleo woman and hoped to be able to keep working until age 66 at least. I have been in my job here for 17 years, and enjoyed it very much until recently, when the new management took on a new 2-year long project but decided to hire only the minimum number of new people to help. Of course, that meant that people were required to work 50-60+ hour weeks in order to meet the deadlines. No one seemed to care that this was happening other than the employees, who have now started to leave in droves. This of course makes it even worse for the people who remain to do the work. We are all salaried, so get the same pay no matter how many hours are worked. Also a few of the older employes have actually been fired now. This is a hospital IT department. I think about leaving myself, but of course the prospects of a 64 year old woman finding a job quickly are rather slim these days, to say the least. I live alone, no family, and support myself, so no one to fall back on to assist me.
    Seems like all companies care about now is working people to death, and if you won't work 60 hour weeks, they will fire you and find someone else who will. No respect for people's families and personal time, etc. In my opinion employers today are really taking advantage of workers. I just wonder if anyplace out there is any better, as I hear the same things from alot of my friends. Anyone have any opinions on the state of employers today?? We are all in fear of losing our jobs, so just trying to get by as best as we can, and not rock the boat. I know it is wrong to be so complacent, but I also know reality is that I need to keep my job......just wanted to get other opinions!!!

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    No, I think you're on to something. With high unemployment, it's an ax hanging over our heads. We can work as they want us to (harder, longer, etc) or we can try to get something elsewhere- maybe. It's only when unemployment is low that they have to really be concerned about how they treat their employees, since there is, in fact, somewhere else to go.
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    There are a lot of companies that utilize the churn 'em and burn 'em employment model. My dad was just let go from a company that routinely does this. They hire someone in as a senior manager, then demote them to regular manager, then fire them. They have repeated that cycle 6 time in 5 years now. Crazy. But, it's an employers market and they clearly can get away with it.

    In my expereince it seems like management is generally just clueless. I'm sitting here at work with very little going on and basically nothing to do. Meanwhile I have a co-worker in another office who is overwhelmed. I ask to take over some of her work so she can have a life and I'm told no. So, I continue to do nothing. It's ridiculous. The last 3 jobs I have had have all been this way; I'm either totally swamped with more work than I can handle or I have nothing to do at all... it's never just an even stream of work that is manageable.

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    It might have to do with the new fascist healthcare laws; it doesn't affect companies with under 50 employees, so many employers are not hiring and downsizing to stay within the limits. This of course means a bigger workload for the smaller staff. Just a possibility which seems to be happening in many workplaces. My MIL is working up to 70 hours a week for a major company and doing the work of 3 people thanks to her union and not living in a right-to-work state. If she quit now at almost 60-years-old, she'd lose her retirement, which I doubt she will get anyway. She tells stories of people being injured on the job and risking termination if they leave for medical assistance. They are looking for any reason to let people go.

    My uncle had amazing benefits at his employment for over 20 years. In the past year they unionized and it has been nothing but a downgrade ever since, starting with loss of overtime and shortened hours, which equals a pay cut.

    The state of employment is a direct and indirect result of state meddling and union thuggery.
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    My employer is extremely benign and actually cares about the QoL concept. So, despite whining about little annoyances, I am hoping to stick around for another 20 years or so.
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    I suggest you check with your State's department of labor regarding overtime laws. In the state I live in, unless you are management, employers MUST pay you OT even if you are salaried. They have to break your salary down into an hourly wage and then pay time and a half. You might also check to see if you can submit a complain anonymously (triggering an audit) so you don't risk your job. Of course, you may have some protection against employer retaliation if you submit a complaint, too. I'd check.
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    Quit complaining- your suffering is collateral damage that improves the lives of the collective.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Perfidy View Post
    Quit complaining- your suffering is collateral damage that improves the lives of the collective.
    Just pay your taxes and die before you can collect SS benefits.

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    I am an employer of over 20 people between my two locations, both full and part-time...I believe that I treat my employees very well. 5 weeks of paid vacation, 6 months maternity leave, very good healthcare, and 4 day work-weeks. I am also a physician, so I have a different viewpoint of a shared healthcare provider and business owner.

    I think that "Obamacare" is a terrible idea, and is as close to fascism as one could get....note that I did not say "socialism", and anyone that believes that we are heading in that direction, rather than its opposite of fascism, does not understand the terms.

    It must be understood that the US is a corporate fascist state. By this I mean that corporate and state power are one and the same. All major decisions and legislation are written by, and for the benefit of, multi-national corporations. It was for these purposes that Obamacare was allowed to pass; in short, it mandated by penalty of fine that I buy a corporate product....NOT a government one (socialism), but a publicly traded one (fascism).

    With that said, I was in healthcare before it passed, and most of it has not gone into effect. The fact that so many of the poor were uninsured was a moral and sociological disaster, not to mention a very expensive one....so for as much as it is a mess now, it was also a mess then. Healthcare has been a corporately owned commodity for about 40 years now. It has only gone from bad to worse.

    For me, the fact that unions are somehow blamed for the state of things, given the meteoric decline in union membership since 1980, is a testament to the success of the corporate movement....in the end there are two main forces, capital and labor...and we have been seeing what capital control looks like once the people are effectively powerless.

    Unions are ripe with thuggery and bribery of public officials, and it is wrong that they do so....but their power pales in comparison to the money and political power of the various multi-nationals that pretty much own the government. This was all laid out in the late 70's under the Heritage Foundation, this exact plan, and it has been executed perfectly.

    The result is the irritation I get when I hear that "the government" is at fault, because the corporation IS THE GOVERNMENT. There is no separation, and that is what makes it fascism. All of the so-called "free trade agreements" of the past 20 years, which are neither free or really agreed to, have served as corporate-written extortion documents meant only to build profit at any cost....we now get to see the cost, unfortunately.

    With the execution of their plan well into its fourth decade, the results are exactly what would be expected....wages have flatlined in almost every area, high under-employment under both Bush and Obama, crashes that are bailed out by the government they own, and widespread poor conditions for workers. It is all very much expected.

    The true con is their ability to make sure anyone else gets blamed. It's all right here, written in 1971.

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    And yes, whatever name I will get called for being opposed to fascism, I will gladly accept.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheyCallMeLazarus View Post
    The result is the irritation I get when I hear that "the government" is at fault, because the corporation IS THE GOVERNMENT.
    The Right has done a great job of framing the debate as being "government" vs. "free enterprise". In fact it's always been about popular control vs. elite control. Power is power, big is big. I'm supposed to feel like I live in a democracy when I've got bosses who test my pee and landlords checking to see who stays the night?

    But you run into the Paulistas. It's a cult. It's a natural fit, the perfection of free markets squares with Puritanism -- we must work for Capitalism, it must not work for us.

    One reason this is happening is the downfall of the Soviet Union. We got the New Deal and Social Democracy in Europe, partly in response to Capitalism's collapse in the Great Depression, but also because of the threat of Bolshevism. As that disappeared, elite-capture governments felt free to tear out the post-War social fabric.

    We will all be serfs soon -- first Greeks, Portugese, Spaniards then Brits, Americans, French. You can try to beat with skills or education but the people at the top are quickly figuring out how to replace education and skills. Even lawyers can't find work now.

    There's no individual, economic solution. The only solution is political and collective.

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