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    The result is the irritation I get when I hear that "the government" is at fault, because the corporation IS THE GOVERNMENT.
    The Right has done a great job of framing the debate as being "government" vs. "free enterprise". In fact it's always been about popular control vs. elite control. Power is power, big is big. I'm supposed to feel like I live in a democracy when I've got bosses who test my pee and landlords checking to see who stays the night?

    But you run into the Paulistas. It's a cult. It's a natural fit, the perfection of free markets squares with Puritanism -- we must work for Capitalism, it must not work for us.

    One reason this is happening is the downfall of the Soviet Union. We got the New Deal and Social Democracy in Europe, partly in response to Capitalism's collapse in the Great Depression, but also because of the threat of Bolshevism. As that disappeared, elite-capture governments felt free to tear out the post-War social fabric.

    We will all be serfs soon -- first Greeks, Portugese, Spaniards then Brits, Americans, French. You can try to beat with skills or education but the people at the top are quickly figuring out how to replace education and skills. Even lawyers can't find work now.

    There's no individual, economic solution. The only solution is political and collective.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Primal Bill View Post
    There's an easy fix to this - 1 term limit for congressmen. This only happens because we have career politicians on both sides
    My state passed term limits years ago and they got tossed out for the national positions by the Supreme Court I think.

    We do have them locally but it just results in this weird position shuffle (after two terms the attorney general runs for Secretary of State, the gov runs for stormed general, Secretary of State runs for auditor etc). So the results are probably not what was hoped for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Perfidy View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Primal Bill View Post
    There's an easy fix to this - 1 term limit for congressmen. This only happens because we have career politicians on both sides
    Thank you for this.

    I've seen the employer's side of the coin. It's no picnic, especially with this Obamacare DISASTER looming over their heads. I can't tell you how many times I have had employers say, we're keeping ourselves at X number of employees because we can't afford these new regulations.

    Hate the state of business and the economy, blame Obama and progressives. It's their "brilliant" ideas that got us here.

    Of course you might not like the solution, but... if you don't like your job, get a different one. I don't say this willy nilly. I'm sort of in the middle of this myself. My job, while enjoyable, didn't fulfill my financial needs. Instead of complaining about the way the company operates, I decided to take my future into my own hands.

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    I wonder about these companies who hire more people than they need. As an investor, I'd steer clear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Primal Bill View Post
    There's an easy fix to this - 1 term limit for congressmen. This only happens because we have career politicians on both sides
    I'm ambivalent. If people want term limits, fine. I might even vote for it. But I don't think it solves a thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Primal Bill View Post
    We need this at a federal level - US Senators and US House of Representatives
    We passed it at the state level for federal positions and the courts tossed it so if you want it at the federal level we need a national bill or constitutional amendment. Good luck with that.

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    I saw a speech on RT by Richard Wolffe about his book Democracy at Work: A Cure for Capitalism. He talks about when Communists take over they raise a different flag over your factory and life goes on as before. His solution is to start at the bottom creating worker cooperatives like Mondragon in Spain. I have some reservations and I haven't read the book but it's an interested idea.

    I think it's clear that Capitalism has at least one tire in the ditch. What comes next is anyone's guess.

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