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    I am female. I can cut a ton of calories and not lose, but I can also eat a ton and not gain. I think the body down and up regulates metabolism based on amount of food to an extent. I am not saying calories do not matter at all, but I don't believe a straight CICO-weightloss correlation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RichMahogany View Post
    Nah, CICO. CICO!!! Women are just bigger liars about how much they put in their mouths. [/facetious]
    Its all that right brain left brain stuff. You know men are just better at math so we are superior at counting our calories.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neckhammer View Post
    Its all that right brain left brain stuff. You know men are just better at math so we are superior at counting our calories.
    Well, and the fact that women are also inherently deceitful.

    citations: 1: the bible, 2: the famous redneck adage about things that bleed for several days but don't die

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    Also women get the vapors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RichMahogany View Post
    Well, and the fact that women are also inherently deceitful.

    citations: 1: the bible, 2: the famous redneck adage about things that bleed for several days but don't die
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    For me it works on the ratios

    I am 5 ft 1 and 122 lbs and 58

    Only exercise is walking 6+ k/ day

    To maintain the above I can eat about 1400 cals BUT only if the carbs are below 100 g doesn't matter how many cals if that carb figure goes above 150 g I will put on weight.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by turquoisepassion View Post
    I am female. I can cut a ton of calories and not lose, but I can also eat a ton and not gain. I think the body down and up regulates metabolism based on amount of food to an extent. I am not saying calories do not matter at all, but I don't believe a straight CICO-weightloss correlation.
    The major part of calories out, is your metabolism. I think that is the confusion for many of the anti-CICO arguments. Everyone's metabolism reacts a little differently to different types of food. Since I've been at my goal weight, not skinny by any means, my body does the same as yours. I may go up a few pounds but those pounds disappear as fast as they arrived. My body seems to be better at self regulating than when I was heavier. The actual formula to describe a real life CICO would be very long but it basically will amount to CI-CO=W, or some derivation of that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Timber View Post
    The major part of calories out, is your metabolism. I think that is the confusion for many of the anti-CICO arguments. Everyone's metabolism reacts a little differently to different types of food. Since I've been at my goal weight, not skinny by any means, my body does the same as yours. I may go up a few pounds but those pounds disappear as fast as they arrived. My body seems to be better at self regulating than when I was heavier. The actual formula to describe a real life CICO would be very long but it basically will amount to CI-CO=W, or some derivation of that.
    Well sure! No need to open that can of worms . It is indeed as you say CO is big. CI can easily change CO, as can food quality, timing, stress levels, sleep, lighting, time of the month (ladies and some guys I guess), exercise, electromagnetic waves, solar flares, toaster ovens, and of course Canadians. So we can all agree that in the end CICO is ultimately correct.

    Now that I think of it my "maintenance level" is much like others have responded.... vast. I can way overeat or even undereat and remain where I am. I'm about 15% bf by calipers though, so I'm cool with that. Sure I can fluctuate 5-10lbs in a week (or more like this past weekend), but I always settle back to this weight as long as I'm eating 80% primal.
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    Don't try to understand women. Only women understand women.

    That is why they hate each other.

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    I've been eating the same 1200-1400 calories for many years. It was only when I replaced carb calories with fat/protein calories that I saw a difference in weight.
    5'0" female, 43 years old. Started Primal October 31, 2011, at a skinny fat 111.5 lbs. Low weight: 99.5 lb on a fast. Current weight: skinny-fat 106.5 lbs because of sugar cheating.

    MY PRIMAL: I (try to) follow by-the-book primal as advocated by Mark Sisson, except for whey powder and a bit of cream. I aim for 80-90 g carb/day and advocate a two-month strict adjustment for newbies. But everybody is different and other need to tweak Primal to their own needs.

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