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    He says - "The idea of "real food" is just snobbery."

    Worse case scenario? this gets greenlighted by govt bodies and replaces a huge chunk of welfare, because why give the sick, jobless and elderly money they could waste when they can have their daily ration of this, and everyone gets higher insurance premiums if they don't eat this wonder-product and instead insist on being a greedy planet raping snob who eats "real" food.

    PROBABLY neither is likely, but really, who knows?

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    What bugs me is the hubris of thinking that we already know exactly what the human body needs and in what combinations. Many of our essential nutrients have only been discovered recently. You don't think we'll discover a few more as we go along? There could be a "Vitamin Z" out there in that snobbish real food that people would end up being deficient in if eating that goop.

    It's disturbing that so many people have bought into this idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paleobird View Post
    Many of our essential nutrients have only been discovered recently. You don't think we'll discover a few more as we go along? There could be a "Vitamin Z" out there in that snobbish real food that people would end up being deficient in if eating that goop.
    ^ That!

    Same as "junk DNA" which is now turning out to serve all sorts of purposes, the appendix we "don't need" - except it's a great refuge for essential bacteria that could be wiped out in the past by prolonged diarrhea, or the tonsils that used to be routinely removed - oops, now we know they're a valuable part of the immune system and so on.

    I worry that this will be picked up and promoted harder than the USDA food pyramid, and only after brth defects and degenerative diseases galore will anyone realise they kinda screwed up.

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    There's almost 7 billion completely unique people on this planet.. It's impossible to create a single food for everybody, everyday.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paleobird View Post
    What bugs me is the hubris of thinking that we already know exactly what the human body needs and in what combinations. Many of our essential nutrients have only been discovered recently. You don't think we'll discover a few more as we go along? There could be a "Vitamin Z" out there in that snobbish real food that people would end up being deficient in if eating that goop.

    It's disturbing that so many people have bought into this idea.
    Amen! There's so much we do not yet know about what is, exactly, in foods that we need. Also, many non-food sources of vitamins don't absorb well or are rancid or have side-effects because of their composition. Real foods are better--there's a reason the vitamins and minerals and macronutrients are found in the foods they are found in!

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    The closest thing we have to this right now is "total parenteral nutrition" - this is the Wikipedia definition:

    "Parenteral nutrition (PN) is feeding a person intravenously, bypassing the usual process of eating and digestion. The person receives nutritional formulae that contain nutrients such as glucose, amino acids, lipids and added vitamins and dietary minerals. It is called total parenteral nutrition (TPN) or total nutrient admixture (TNA) when no significant nutrition is obtained by other routes. It may be called total peripheral nutrition (also TPN) when administered through vein access in a limb, rather than through a central port in body."

    Leaving aside side-effects caused by the catheter, this, the closest we have to universal food which is given to people whose lives depend on it, not as some science experiment, still has potential to cause the following:

    "glucose abnormalities, liver dysfunction and catheter related infection. Hyperglycemia (high blood glucose levels) or hypoglycemia (low blood glucose levels), as well as some liver dysfunction, is seen in over 90 percent of people receiving TPN. Other side effects include: electrolyte abnormalities, volume overload, bone demineralization, reactions to the lipids and some gallbladder issues."
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    "Side effects
    The side effects of total parenteral nutrition are numerous and include an increased incidence of pneumonia, catheter-related sepsis, and metabolic abnormalities resulting from the administered nutrients (Table 37-3) (Michel et al., 1981; Souba, 1997).
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    While some percentage of these problems may be due to the formula they use in order to create something a body can accept into its veins, it undermines the idea of a universal foodstuff even more in my mind, since this has been used for long time now, using the best research and minds available on the topic, and yet it's still causing problems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jefferson1775 View Post
    There's almost 7 billion completely unique people on this planet.. It's impossible to create a single food for everybody, everyday.
    Very true. The inventor of this goop now has a men's and a women's formula but that is not good enough. What I, as a 51 year old post menopausal woman need, is not the same thing as what a 20something girl needs.

    Plus there are countless variabilities based on geography, vit d exposure comes to mind.

    Plus countless variabilities based on previously existing health conditions.

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    It's also just icky. Imagine, if you will, a low lit room, two people obviously in love, sitting at a candle-lit table. The waiter comes to the table with their order: two big honkin' glasses of goo. LOL

    He says, "The main criticism has been the appearance. People are pretty shallow when it comes to food."

    I guess if you come from a mindset that anything that feels good isn't necessary, count me as shallow. An ascetic lifestyle is not for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JoanieL View Post
    It's also just icky. Imagine, if you will, a low lit room, two people obviously in love, sitting at a candle-lit table. The waiter comes to the table with their order: two big honkin' glasses of goo. LOL
    Pus-coloured goo. The details matter!

    Then they'd probably go home for some sexless IVF based on choosing whatever current science thinks is the best sperm and ovum, since, obviously, it's snobbish to want to attract, and be attractive - what about all the ugly or shy people?!

    Oh brave new world, that has such prospects in it!

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