Page 20 of 219 FirstFirst ... 1018192021223070120 ... LastLast
Results 191 to 200 of 2183

Thread: Primal with MOAR Peat: Food & Hormone Discussion (Ray Peat Followers) page 20

  1. #191
    Zach's Avatar
    Zach is offline Banned
    Join Date
    Nov 2012
    Location
    Minnesota
    Posts
    2,869
    Quote Originally Posted by Neckhammer View Post
    Not as much as I use to. Starting to play it safe in my old age. But I have started donating blood.
    Yea you wont get rid of iron unless its a major life threatening wound, haha. Donating blood is probably the easiest way.

  2. #192
    BestBetter's Avatar
    BestBetter is offline Senior Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2011
    Location
    sunshine state
    Posts
    1,220
    I had some good news. In two months of strictly following my protocol of taking 50mg Iron Biglycinate on an empty stomach with 2,000-4,000 mg ascorbic acid, plus taking Ester-C supplements with iron-containing foods and avoiding iron-inhibitors, I was able to get my ferritin up from 12 to 54. I still have a way to go, but that kind of gain is impressive (in my opinion), considering how many people with iron deficient anemia struggle for months with practically no gains. Maybe the devil is in the details (taking a bioavailable form, taking it in an acidic environment on an empty stomach, avoiding certain things, etc...) Anyway, I was very impressed and hoping that my hair loss will end soon (it has reduced a little, but still an issue).

    YogaBare, something you said earlier in the thread made me think of something else 'Peat' related that my husband has been experimenting on with him. After an endless amount of testing just got diagnosed with IBS-D. It seems like it's triggered by certain foods, but not always, and sometimes has nothing to do with food at all. We just realized that it's very likely he has a double issue: histamine intolerance (all the foods/drinks he has trouble with are usually high in histamine and now that he's supplementing with the enzyme Histame he seems much better) but also SEROTONIN.

    I read to him a couple of articles Peat wrote about issues with high Serotonin, and that led him on a quest to research the issue in medical journals to find out more. He's convinced this is a major issue for him, and he's now trying to avoiding foods high in tryptophan (mainly muscle meats, eggs, cheese) since it gets converted into Serotonin and supplementing with collagen and gelatin and BCAA (which compete with tryptophan and prevent much of it from binding). Even though he just started, already his ADD and depressive issues are improving, as is his IBS. Serotonin has an inverse relationship with Dopamine (his is way too low, which results in the ADD and mood issues).

    Anyway, the reason I thought of this after reading your post below is that Serotonin and Estrogen are very closely linked; Serotonin causes an increase in Estrogen. (In fact, SSRI antidepressants increase circulating Serotonin are known for reducing libido, by increasing Estrogen and lowering Testosterone).

    Maybe Serotonin could be a factor in your Estrogen dominance?

    Quote Originally Posted by YogaBare View Post
    Does anyone know if hormonal imbalances affect your ability to absorb iron? The only thing that's coming to me is that the oestrogen dominance (that's making me infertile) means that my womb lining can't build up, and maybe this is connected to have low ferritin and getting frequent periods when I eat iron-heavy food, but not getting any period when I don't eat iron?

    I guess I'm due another scan...

  3. #193
    thriveful's Avatar
    thriveful is offline Senior Member
    Join Date
    May 2013
    Posts
    167
    Quote Originally Posted by Zach View Post
    Yea you wont get rid of iron unless its a major life threatening wound, haha. Donating blood is probably the easiest way.
    I'd be interested on why ferritin is an issue in modem life, from the perspective of high levels requiring blood donation. Are people with high levels just outliers, or is something in modern life/diet driving this.

    If we assume/agree that eating reasonable amounts of red meat is the norm for humans, surely 'extreme' measures such as blood donation should be unnecessary?

    I haven't even started looking into this yet, but interested in some views
    Last edited by thriveful; 08-17-2013 at 10:34 AM.

  4. #194
    lemontwisst's Avatar
    lemontwisst is online now Senior Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2012
    Location
    Calgary
    Posts
    632
    Quote Originally Posted by YogaBare View Post
    Hey Lemon T, glad you finally got some answers! But what makes you think you have O.D?

    I kept turning up info from John Lee that was compatible with Peat's research, then I read (here) that Lee was completely Peat-inspired!

    Funny that he ended up becoming one of Australia's most renowned thyroid specialists, while Peat is still mocked.



    lol.
    I didn't think OD was a factor, but my ND says she suspects it may be an issue and wants to work on clearing out any excess once we've gotten my liver and kidneys functioning optimally. Adrenals and thyroid seem to be getting back on track, so I'm optimistic she knows what she's talking about.

  5. #195
    j3nn's Avatar
    j3nn is offline Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2011
    Location
    Hudson Valley, NY
    Posts
    3,748
    Quote Originally Posted by thriveful View Post
    I'd be interested on why ferritin is an issue in modem life, from the perspective of high levels requiring blood donation. Are people with high levels just outliers, or is something in modern life/diet driving this.

    If we assume/agree that eating reasonable amounts of red meat is the norm for humans, surely 'extreme' measures such as blood donation should be unnecessary?

    I haven't even started looking into this yet, but interested in some views
    I have the same questions: What would people (men, mainly) have done about iron overload in the past? Was it even an issue? Of course they probably didn't even know about it. My guess would be a combination of fasting and a diet that didn't have access to so much meat on a daily basis. This is the first time in history we have freezers full of muscle meat and grocery stores loaded with iron- and vitamin C-rich fruits and vegetables.
    | My (food) Blog | Follow me on Facebook | Pinterest | Twitter |

    “It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men.” - Samuel Adams

  6. #196
    Zach's Avatar
    Zach is offline Banned
    Join Date
    Nov 2012
    Location
    Minnesota
    Posts
    2,869
    I think the iron overload is not from animal products so much as it is from iron fortified products and multivitamins.

  7. #197
    thriveful's Avatar
    thriveful is offline Senior Member
    Join Date
    May 2013
    Posts
    167
    Quote Originally Posted by Zach View Post
    I think the iron overload is not from animal products so much as it is from iron fortified products and multivitamins.
    That would make sense, so shouldn't be an issue for eaters of real food.

    Btw, I'm finding this Peat discussion interesting. I think throwing ones self soley into one camp is a mistake, picking relevant bits from a number of sources makes sense.

  8. #198
    girlhk's Avatar
    girlhk is offline Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2011
    Posts
    967
    Is is better to eat fruit and no starch? I've noticed that starch really increases my appetite. But fruit limits itself. I'm curious why this is.

  9. #199
    Gorbag's Avatar
    Gorbag is offline Senior Member
    Join Date
    Oct 2012
    Location
    Ecuador
    Posts
    4,349
    Quote Originally Posted by girlhk View Post
    Is is better to eat fruit and no starch? I've noticed that starch really increases my appetite. But fruit limits itself. I'm curious why this is.
    Starches spikes your blood sugar more, and people often get hunger pangs when it fall down quickly! The carb roller coaster and all that...
    Being just an old fashioned guy myself; I’m beyond tired of all these fragile mama boys (and girls!) with powder in their gluteus and soft pillows under their arm pits that cannot recover from their 3 days a week abbreviated “strength” routine…

  10. #200
    Graycat's Avatar
    Graycat is offline Senior Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Location
    Atlanta
    Posts
    1,933
    Primal Blueprint Expert Certification
    Quote Originally Posted by girlhk View Post
    Is is better to eat fruit and no starch? I've noticed that starch really increases my appetite. But fruit limits itself. I'm curious why this is.
    Eating good amount of fruit keeps me full on relatively small amount of calories. Not that I advocate fruitarianism, but I certainly now understand how it can be sustainable in terms of satiety.
    Last edited by Graycat; 08-17-2013 at 03:21 PM.

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •