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    My doctor wants me to go vegetarian

    I recently saw the doctor for the first time since going primal. I wasn't going to say anything, but just let the results speak for themselves.

    But I made the mistake of listing protein supplements on the form where it asks about anything you're taking, and that opened the floodgates. Apparently losing 35 pounds is too minor to even be noticed, but consuming adequate protein is cause for alarm. After all, every study has shown that red meat causes cancer, heart disease, and kidney problems, and vegetarian diets are healthiest. Whatever, I'll just let my blood test convince him, I thought.

    They called a couple of days later to say that my cholesterol was really high. I'm supposed to go vegetarian, then come back in a month. I wrote down the numbers they gave me, and compared them to a printout of my last cholesterol test.

    Pre-primal (0 egg consumption, not too much meat)
    Cholesterol: 219
    Triglycerides: 62
    HDL Cholesterol: 50
    LDL Cholesterol, Calculated: 157
    Cholesterol/HDL Ratio: 4.4

    Primal (5 dozen eggs per week, lots of meat, butter)
    Cholesterol: 224
    Triglycerides: 37
    HDL Cholesterol: 70
    LDL Cholesterol, Calculated: 147
    Cholesterol/HDL Ratio: 3.2

    I was really hoping that my total cholesterol would go down after eating 5 dozen eggs per week, because that would just be hilarious. Oh well, it went up 5 points. But HDL is up and LDL is down - that's good, right? Is my LDL a problem?

    I think I know what you're going to say, but should I go vegetarian?
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    No.

    Others will chime in with more detail, but Your cholesterol levels are more balanced for one thing.

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    I guess this means you'll have to find a new doctor...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mike View Post
    I guess this means you'll have to find a new doctor...
    +1

    It's very funny that the doctor recommend to abandon the current diet when HDL goes up and LDL and trig goes down.
    Also you can try VAP test to get the LDL profile.

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    Also, 5 points on the total cholesterol is within the margin of error. If you had gone DOWN 5 points, I sure your doctor would have made that point. And remember, 220 used to be the normal. You are only high because they changed the standard(and we see how that has helped!).

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    If your doctor recommends you go vegetarian, I recommend you go get a new doctor.

    There is never, ever, ever a health-oriented reason to go vegetarian.
    Don't put your trust in anyone on this forum, including me. You are the key to your own success.

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    I think you should definitely go vegan. Also, you should buy every book written by Joel Fuhrman--especially 'Super Immunity'. Never, ever eat another egg! They are killing you. Also, work on getting that HDL down, you don't want a little 'H' next to it! Did you know that every gram of cholesterol you eat goes straight to your arteries? You may also want to consider a low fat diet. I would recommend lots of iceberg lettuce with statin dressing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PrimalHunter View Post
    I recently saw the doctor for the first time since going primal. I wasn't going to say anything, but just let the results speak for themselves.

    But I made the mistake of listing protein supplements on the form where it asks about anything you're taking, and that opened the floodgates. Apparently losing 35 pounds is too minor to even be noticed, but consuming adequate protein is cause for alarm. After all, every study has shown that red meat causes cancer, heart disease, and kidney problems, and vegetarian diets are healthiest. Whatever, I'll just let my blood test convince him, I thought.

    They called a couple of days later to say that my cholesterol was really high. I'm supposed to go vegetarian, then come back in a month. I wrote down the numbers they gave me, and compared them to a printout of my last cholesterol test.

    Pre-primal (0 egg consumption, not too much meat)
    Cholesterol: 219
    Triglycerides: 62
    HDL Cholesterol: 50
    LDL Cholesterol, Calculated: 157
    Cholesterol/HDL Ratio: 4.4

    Primal (5 dozen eggs per week, lots of meat, butter)
    Cholesterol: 224
    Triglycerides: 37
    HDL Cholesterol: 70
    LDL Cholesterol, Calculated: 147
    Cholesterol/HDL Ratio: 3.2

    I was really hoping that my total cholesterol would go down after eating 5 dozen eggs per week, because that would just be hilarious. Oh well, it went up 5 points. But HDL is up and LDL is down - that's good, right? Is my LDL a problem?

    I think I know what you're going to say, but should I go vegetarian?
    Triglycerides down and HDL up means you win cholesterol. Get a doctor who's not an idiot. Hard to imagine better numbers than these.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RichMahogany View Post
    Triglycerides down and HDL up means you win cholesterol. Get a doctor who's not an idiot. Hard to imagine better numbers than these.
    I don't think you will find a doctor who likes LDL over a 200. That is the gold standard, it seems, everything else is irrelevant.

    Use doctors to treat broken bones, fractures, sprains, lacerations, heart attacks, and tumours--eat real food and worry about your own health markers. Food before pills!

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    Quote Originally Posted by otzi View Post
    I don't think you will find a doctor who likes LDL over a 200.
    Do you mean total cholesterol? Because LDL (calculated) was 147, which />200.

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