There is obviously a subset of people that do not do well on VLC. Not really a debate there. Its true of every macro variance. However, if we really want to know why people are having trouble implementing VLC we gotta look at feesible mechanisms. Of which "damaging the thyroid" is not. So I have no problem with the "I don't do well on VLC so I added carbs".... I do have a problem with "VLC hurt my thyroid so I added carbs".... see the difference? One leaves room for interpretation of a variety of mechanisms while the other makes an assertion that is not backed up by the evidence
Last edited by Neckhammer; 07-22-2013 at 07:03 PM.
Lifting once a week will maintain muscle mass in someone your age, and the cardio is a complete waste of time. Substitute one MAYBE two HIIT sessions for the cardio.
Also, anyone who's training with a low-carb diet should read "The Art and Science of Low Carbohydrate Performance" by Stephen Phinney and Jeff Volek.
Follow the Primal blueprint, coming from a junk food/malnourished-and-overweight lifestyle, eat beyond satiety always, IF daily and lift heavy/bodyweight stuff intermittently so your muscles have time to grow. Always eat too much meat. And then a little more. Seriously, that is probably the hugest key to unlocking good body comp. Gains will plateau, but muscles will grow as fat vanishes. That was my experience, anyway.If you've found an easy way for this to be done, outside of complete beginners, please bless us with your knowledge.
If you are already healthy-ish, then it might not work. But when you go from macaroni and cheese and spaghetti to steak and salmon, body repair is inevitable.
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Well, if we were all to follow the wizened advice of our meta-analysis researcher extraordinaire Mr. Sisson we would not be VLC. He does not advise it long term. For anyone. Hmm... I do wonder why. Don't forget that Taubs wrote about the research surrounding VLC for weight loss, not overall health. He also said that bed rest was better than exercise for weight loss. Additionally, I ask, what traditional tribes are VLC? Inuit? Don't forget they have arctic tubers and berries for part of the yr. Are your ancestors Inuit? Perhaps then it might be a good idea.
I agree with Sisson and Stefani Re fasting. Paleo for Women | Shattering the Myth of Fasting for Women: A Review of Female-Specific Responses to Fasting in the Literature
Paleo for Women | Shattering the Myth of Fasting for Women: A Review of Female-Specific Responses to Fasting in the Literature
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Anyway I was pointing out one specific mechanism and what I believe to be an incorrect assumption in regards to low carb and thyroid health. It seems your expanding this to everyone and every circumstance everywhere. I don't know who said that ketosis is key for every one in every circumstance, but I'm pretty sure it wasn't me. I made a very deliberate point about just one aspect of low carb.
Far as women and fasting, its probably only as variable as any single individual response and health status when attempting IF. Pklopp actually wrote a good response to that article you link. You should give it a read. Seems the insulin resistance of the two genders where a huge confounder in at least one of those major studies on humans.
Last edited by Neckhammer; 07-24-2013 at 11:35 AM.