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    What to do or say re: undernourished vegan baby?

    My friend's granddaughter just turned 1. She only weighs 15lbs and is fed a vegan diet. S (my friend) is concerned bc of baby's weight and how sickly and skinny she is. Says she has a giant head and stick legs and arms and reminds her of those starving African babies.
    The mother (DIL of S) only feeds baby veggies and freaks if anything else is given to eat. S gave her a bite of toast and the mother went crazy bc she didn't want the baby to get fat from eating bread.
    She wouldn't let the baby even touch the birthday cake bc sugar would make the baby fat.
    I *think* the baby is breastfed.
    Baby has never seen a doctor or nurse so the weight issue has never come up.
    S has tried to say that meat, eggs, fat etc are crucial for a developing baby but she just gets dismissed as the overbearing MIL.
    How do you get someone to feed their baby properly? I would hate for the baby to get really ill or even die from being undernourished. Is there anything you can do or say??

    S always coos over my 8mos old (who is 23lbs) and wishes her granddaughter could be chubby and healthy too.

    Edited to add: The granddaughter lives about 500 miles away from S so she can't be there in person too often.
    Last edited by blondiegreen; 07-08-2013 at 08:10 PM.
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    Eating mainly paleo, but including a bit of white rice (don't call the Paleo Police!)

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    Oh god that makes me angry...

    I have no idea, as meddling in anyone's child-rearing is a huge no-no, but surely this is some form of neglect. Or something. This is beyond just physical danger, there are also developmental issues to consider.

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    I couldn't agree more with Allenete, fat is essential to brain development! I can't say any more it makes me too angry to even think about it.
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    It sounds like this baby is 'failing to thrive', 15lb translates to 6.8kg. If you look at this centile chart of 0-1yo girls, the child in question is between the 2nd and 0.5th percentiles.

    Edit: Misread the child's weight.

    I agree with the people suggesting an anonymous dob-in to whatever the children's social welfare institution in your country is.
    Last edited by magicmerl; 07-08-2013 at 09:00 PM.
    Disclaimer: I eat 'meat and vegetables' ala Primal, although I don't agree with the carb curve. I like Perfect Health Diet and WAPF Lactofermentation a lot.

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    5,000 Cal Fat <> 5,000 Cal Carbs
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    I don't usually care too much what people eat, but when it comes to an innocent baby, that worries me!
    Needing some accountability, so here's my stats:
    34yrs old, 5'5"
    CW: 163lbs (07/2014)
    GW: 135lbs or less
    Eating mainly paleo, but including a bit of white rice (don't call the Paleo Police!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Anthony View Post
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    you beat me to it. I would call protective services in a heartbeat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by not on the rug View Post
    you beat me to it. I would call protective services in a heartbeat.
    Without hesitation. Every minute this child remains undernourished and you don't do everything in your power to save it is on you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Anthony View Post
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    The baby is missing some really important brain nutrients if she isn't at least supplementing in some way.

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    It is child abuse, but so is all the children who are fed crap all the time. What makes this so sad is that she believes she is doing the very best for her child. As Shazzie explains in her article below, the failures are not well known in the vegan community and are mostly covered up - she also states in the article that it is child abuse.

    I would share this information from these two Mom's who are well known in the vegan community...

    Shazzie's article on raw vegan children
    Shazzie wrote a book about it - her daughter now eats eggs, grass fed butter and cheese, and she supplements with DHA, EPA, K2, D3, etc.

    My Vegan Diet Caused Health Problems. Would Primal, Paleo, Or “Real Food” Be Better? » Kristen's Raw
    Kristen has transitioned to more of a primal diet.

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