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    So, after reading from many sites and a few books I have realized that only a few consider a half squat a squat? Is that right? When I squat full my knees crack like mad and kinda ache for a day or two. Only to squat again to ache again. This achy knee thing starting yrs ago, unrelated to lifting. All my brothers (3) have bad knees, my dad too as well as all his brothers (my 4 uncles). Maybe funky knee genes? Anyway, question is, is it still worth doing? As in, will my legs and rear still benefit?

    Regardless, I totally love it, lifting weights has become a love for me now.

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    Squatting to depth is good for your knees. Half squats are terrible for them. Keep squatting correctly past parallel and I bet the aches will go away.

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    What do you consider a half squat? Some people think that it's not a squat unless you go ass-to-grass (which is ridiculous). I think squatting to parallel is perfectly effective.

    You shouldn't do an exercise that causes you actual pain. I know some taller lifters who have stopped squatting all together because their build just makes it so difficult for them. Squatting is not mandatory, and if you're not built to squat without pain, don't squat.
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    I am going parallel. Mr Rippetoe said (in a video on you tube teaching about the squat) unless I remember wrong, that past the knees is useless and not considered a squat? I'm getting up in the 100's and it's too much. Before that my knees felt better than before I started lifting.

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    Rich said it as well, squatting past parallel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by umm7 View Post
    I am going parallel. Mr Rippetoe said (in a video on you tube teaching about the squat) unless I remember wrong, that past the knees is useless and not considered a squat? I'm getting up in the 100's and it's too much. Before that my knees felt better than before I started lifting.
    Are you warming up properly? You should always do at least 3, maybe 4 or 5 warm-up sets with less weight before you hit your workout weight. This helps your whole body (knees especially) transition into the heavier weights.

    For instance, today I squated 3x3 at 225 lbs, so my warmup sets were 2x5x45 (bar), 1x5x95, 1x3x135, 1x2x185 before I finally got into my workout.

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    Yes, first I do a set with an empty bar, then two more sets with some added weight each time. I also jump rope first before doing anything, and stretch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by umm7 View Post
    Yes, first I do a set with an empty bar, then two more sets with some added weight each time. I also jump rope first before doing anything, and stretch.
    Take a form check video and post it in the Coach's forum on the Starting Strength website.

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    You may just have bad knees from -- like you said -- years of having bad knees. But squatting will surely help you with that over time. I would follow RichMahogany's advice and take a video to have others critique your form, though. I've never heard of bad form hurting knees (usually neck or back), but it can't help.

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    I won't post pics/videos. I will however ask my dad when I see him (long time lifter). Although he won't squat with weights (stopped yrs back because of his knees) he does body squats. My back and neck feel great, and I'm not on my toes. I'm pretty certain my form is good. (video watched myself)

    I just wanna tighten my tush. I hope not going below parallel will not hinder that.

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