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    Oh I might just cry.. *sigh*

    From When a Gluten-Free Diet Isn't Healthier

    "The “Healthier” Truth

    The biggest motivator of those who choose to go gluten-free is the notion that they are “generally healthier.” But, if you can’t cut calories or save on carbs, what makes going gluten-free healthier? For those with gluten sensitivity and Celiac disease, gluten-free products are a necessity for health, but for all others, there are some things you give up when you go gluten-free that aren’t so good for you. Here are a few things to consider about gluten-free products:

    Less Fiber
    The ingredients that replace gluten-containing foods may be lower in fiber as many are made with refined, highly processed ingredients. To maintain taste, more fat and sugar may also be added to certain foods as well.

    No Fortified Vitamins and Minerals
    Wheat flour is generally fortified with iron and B-vitamins, but gluten-free substitutions are generally not fortified. Also, whole grains that contain gluten have more nutritional value than the highly processed ingredients used in gluten-free products.

    Bottom Line

    Be on the look out for healthier options to the foods you love, but don’t think it can be found in gluten-free products alone. Eating healthier foods means eating more nutrient-dense and less empty calories such as those high in fat and sugar. Bottom line, getting enough fiber, vitamins and minerals, and lean proteins, can be done without going gluten-free.
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    Yes, gluten free versions of baked goods are not good for you.
    Wheat versions aren't good for you either and are also packed with added sugars.

    Gees, so why would one who hasn't been "clinically diagnosed" with celiac go gluten free?
    How about the fact that those who know enough about gluten would rather drink battery acid?

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    I think that is absolutely dead-on. If you're not a celiac, there is no point in going gluten-free if you're not going to commit to a significant lifestyle change. Replacing brownies with gluten-free brownies is a waste of time and won't show any measurable health benefits. And generally, because wheat flour is a staple and fortified as mentioned, switching to corn starch and rice flour, the typical go-to gluten-free fours, is going to be even less nutritious. In short, going "gluten-free" COULD be even less healthy.

    This isn't written in the context of avoiding processed foods. It's simply stating switching wheat flour for other junk flours for a non-celiac is just a waste of time, potentially even less nutritious and surely more expensive since you're paying for that g* logo. I agree 100%.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChocoTaco369 View Post
    I think that is absolutely dead-on. If you're not a celiac, there is no point in going gluten-free if you're not going to commit to a significant lifestyle change. Replacing brownies with gluten-free brownies is a waste of time and won't show any measurable health benefits. And generally, because wheat flour is a staple and fortified as mentioned, switching to corn starch and rice flour, the typical go-to gluten-free fours, is going to be even less nutritious. In short, going "gluten-free" COULD be even less healthy.

    This isn't written in the context of avoiding processed foods. It's simply stating switching wheat flour for other junk flours for a non-celiac is just a waste of time, potentially even less nutritious and surely more expensive since you're paying for that g* logo. I agree 100%.
    Good post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChocoTaco369 View Post
    I think that is absolutely dead-on. If you're not a celiac, there is no point in going gluten-free if you're not going to commit to a significant lifestyle change. Replacing brownies with gluten-free brownies is a waste of time and won't show any measurable health benefits. And generally, because wheat flour is a staple and fortified as mentioned, switching to corn starch and rice flour, the typical go-to gluten-free fours, is going to be even less nutritious. In short, going "gluten-free" COULD be even less healthy.

    This isn't written in the context of avoiding processed foods. It's simply stating switching wheat flour for other junk flours for a non-celiac is just a waste of time, potentially even less nutritious and surely more expensive since you're paying for that g* logo. I agree 100%.
    You're right, it's in the context of switching wheat to GF, not Paleo.
    However, it's still in the context of CW.

    The comment "if you can't cut calories and save on carbs, what makes GF healthier" ... really? Healthy is about less calories and less carbs? Have you MET gluten? It does things to our bodies that is much worse than nutritionally empty food. To be diagnosed as a celiac you have to be on the extreme spectrum of gluten sensitivity. You have to be at the point of no return. Meanwhile, I really believe most, if not all, of us have a gluten sensitivity. Some may not be aware of it, some may think they have indigestion and bloating.

    A regular muffin and a GF muffin may both be evil, but I'm not sure wheat is the lesser of the two evils. Both are highly processed, refined and sugary, but given no choice I'd rather go GF and leave "nutritional fortification" to other (real) food.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allenete View Post
    Healthy is about less calories and less carbs? Have you MET gluten? It does things to our bodies that is much worse than nutritionally empty food. To be diagnosed as a celiac you have to be on the extreme spectrum of gluten sensitivity. You have to be at the point of no return.
    Strictly speaking, while those who are diagnosed as celiac often have irreversible damage done to their bodies, the point of no return is truly those who end up, after decades of exposure to gluten, with refractory celiac. That's how celiac kills people directly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allenete View Post
    Meanwhile, I really believe most, if not all, of us have a gluten sensitivity. Some may not be aware of it, some may think they have indigestion and bloating.
    This is a very broad generalization. When you say "us", do you mean the entire population? If so, that's a pretty extreme statement to make with no evidence to support it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allenete View Post
    You're right, it's in the context of switching wheat to GF, not Paleo.
    However, it's still in the context of CW.

    The comment "if you can't cut calories and save on carbs, what makes GF healthier" ... really? Healthy is about less calories and less carbs? Have you MET gluten? It does things to our bodies that is much worse than nutritionally empty food. To be diagnosed as a celiac you have to be on the extreme spectrum of gluten sensitivity. You have to be at the point of no return. Meanwhile, I really believe most, if not all, of us have a gluten sensitivity. Some may not be aware of it, some may think they have indigestion and bloating.

    A regular muffin and a GF muffin may both be evil, but I'm not sure wheat is the lesser of the two evils. Both are highly processed, refined and sugary, but given no choice I'd rather go GF and leave "nutritional fortification" to other (real) food.
    I don't think gluten is healthy. I think it is better to avoid gluten, at least regularly, for obvious reasons. However, gluten gets far more credit than it deserves around here. People think wheat is the worst thing on Earth. It isn't. In fact, if your body is healthy, gluten here and there will probably not hurt you at all. People are so metabolically ill from all the polyunsaturated fats in their diet and all the funky hormones, pesticides and steroids in our foods, gluten becomes a trigger for autoimmune conditions. Food allergies are through the roof - peanut allergies, gluten intolerance - ALL OF IT. Make no mistake, it is the vast difference in fats that we intake and all the weird proteins from all the screwed up animals we're fed these days. Gluten is a bullet, not the person behind the trigger. Blaming it is shortsighted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChocoTaco369 View Post
    I think that is absolutely dead-on. If you're not a celiac, there is no point in going gluten-free if you're not going to commit to a significant lifestyle change. Replacing brownies with gluten-free brownies is a waste of time and won't show any measurable health benefits. And generally, because wheat flour is a staple and fortified as mentioned, switching to corn starch and rice flour, the typical go-to gluten-free fours, is going to be even less nutritious. In short, going "gluten-free" COULD be even less healthy.

    This isn't written in the context of avoiding processed foods. It's simply stating switching wheat flour for other junk flours for a non-celiac is just a waste of time, potentially even less nutritious and surely more expensive since you're paying for that g* logo. I agree 100%.
    It makes no sense at all to recommend that people who know they are gluten intolerant and know they are going to be sick for weeks if they eat gluten should keep eating gluten regardless, anymore than it does to pretend that the overwhelming majority of people with celiac or non-celiac gluten intolerance, who have never been diagnosed and have no idea, will do just fine for the rest of their lives eating gluten. FAIL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eKatherine View Post
    It makes no sense at all to recommend that people who know they are gluten intolerant and know they are going to be sick for weeks if they eat gluten should keep eating gluten regardless, anymore than it does to pretend that the overwhelming majority of people with celiac or non-celiac gluten intolerance, who have never been diagnosed and have no idea, will do just fine for the rest of their lives eating gluten. FAIL.
    If your gut flora is so screwed up from overconsumption of polyunsaturated fats and antibiotics that you can no longer digest gluten, is removing gluten the answer?

    The shortsighted answer is "yes." The real answer to the problem is to heal your body so gluten no longer permeates your gut lining. That, of course, is a lot more work. Celiac disease is on the rise because of the PUFA and antibiotics we consume in excess every day. We can't digest these grains anymore. Yes, grains are less than ideal food and far less healthy than meat, fruits and vegetables, but we need to stop taking this narrow view of health, cursing individual foods for being "evil," and view the body as a single cell. This community lacks the ability to view the big picture and focuses too much on minor details.

    Gluten is a problem because our bodies are so screwed up we have turned it into one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChocoTaco369 View Post
    If your gut flora is so screwed up from overconsumption of polyunsaturated fats and antibiotics that you can no longer digest gluten, is removing gluten the answer?

    The shortsighted answer is "yes." The real answer to the problem is to heal your body so gluten no longer permeates your gut lining. That, of course, is a lot more work. Celiac disease is on the rise because of the PUFA and antibiotics we consume in excess every day. We can't digest these grains anymore. Yes, grains are less than ideal food and far less healthy than meat, fruits and vegetables, but we need to stop taking this narrow view of health, cursing individual foods for being "evil," and view the body as a single cell. This community lacks the ability to view the big picture and focuses too much on minor details.

    Gluten is a problem because our bodies are so screwed up we have turned it into one.
    This is a fantasy on your part. There is no science behind it.

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