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    Quote Originally Posted by eKatherine View Post
    Seriously, something is only a disease if people are addicted to the cause by all standards? Better drop 99% of diseases then. No point in treating cancer if it's not an addiction.
    All (serious) addictions are diseases, but not all diseases are addictions! Got it eKathrine? If not, then go back to the class-rom or read some more of your logic curriculum...

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    I would like to exit the race at this juncture. Humanity has devolved into a self-defeating pile of adipose tissue that believes everything supposed authority figures say.


    "The FDA must know what they are talking about! You are nuts for eating all that fat!" - Fat, unhealthy American
    The above should be viewed as complete and utter nonsense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eKatherine View Post
    They would operate on everyone who was overweight if somebody would pick up the tab.
    This. Bad biscuits make the baker broke, bro.
    The above should be viewed as complete and utter nonsense.

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    On breaking out of the healthcare box..."Box? What box? Take cover, it's gonna get ugly... "

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gorbag View Post
    Alcoholism is addiction to alcohol, some mental disorder(s) underlying it, but not all obese persons are addicted to food or have a mental disorder that makes them overeatů
    Alas there you have missed some correlated data

    same pathways, different addictions.

    all roads lead to the hypothalamus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zach View Post
    Well we live in a sad society of lazy sheeple who would rather live a comfortable disease riddled lifestyle then take responsibility of their own actions and do something about it. Im not sad at all for these people, i am sad though for all the children who are raised by these people and are given a life sentence without a chance or even a say.
    QFMFT!!!!

    today abuse is all about imposing your choice to be ignorant upon the helpless
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    Quote Originally Posted by sbhikes View Post
    I don't think it's as easy and cynical as that. Years ago I was diagnosed with major depression. Before that diagnosis, I could at least believe that I was simply having a bad day (lots of them, actually) and that I wasn't trying hard enough and that it was just me being a loser. The diagnosis was humiliating. Wow, you mean I'm mentally ill? That was really hard to accept. I worked with mentally ill people, I wasn't one of them. Anyway, I took the pills and went to therapy and started to feel better. I don't take pills anymore and have no depression at all anymore.

    So giving someone a diagnosis might make them accept treatment and follow a healthier diet. Even a healthy CW diet will help some people. And maybe some of them will find their way here.
    I stumbled onto cashews.. between those and NLP techniques i corrected my issues in that department.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JoanieL View Post
    +1 Whether addiction as defined by some "authority" or not, one makes a conscious choice as to what one puts in one's mouth......
    HFCS laced tea for instance..... i brewed it myself

    or maybe these healthy granola snacks

    or perhaps the low fat half and half for your coffee


    JoanieL YOU make a conscious decision on what to stuff in your cake hole.... 98.76352% of the world does not
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gorbag View Post
    Alcoholism is addiction to alcohol, some mental disorder(s) underlying it, but not all obese persons are addicted to food or have a mental disorder that makes them overeat…
    Quote Originally Posted by quelsen View Post
    Alas there you have missed some correlated data

    same pathways, different addictions.

    all roads lead to the hypothalamus
    Do you say that ALL fat or obese persons have an addiction to food or have an mental disorder that makes them overeat?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gorbag View Post
    Do you say that ALL fat or obese persons have an addiction to food or have an mental disorder that makes them overeat?
    my position is that ALL humans who exceed specified parameters of health are sick.

    as i understand the human anatomy "obesity" is at best a seasonal condition and one which should not last past the season (winter specifically)..

    However. we are not seeing that. what we are seeing is human carrying this weight over months and years and decades... it should not happen and it does not happen in individuals who's pathways operate properly.

    DO NOT MISUNDERSTAND ME....<read my siggy>

    YOUR PROBLEM, YOUR RESPONSIBILITY

    many people lack the desire or the knowledge to effect change. I will totally concede the point that those who lack the desire deserve the evolutionary exit, however we cant know who they are from here...

    as to why they are broke... it is in one of 3 places.
    1. Malfunctioning DNA.
    2. HPA Axis Failure,
    3.Compromised Digestive tract.

    cant do a damned thing about #1 but adapt to your issue for the rest of your life, it is a death sentence, but so it life

    2&3 can be healed to a greater or lesser degree. and both take a measure of discipline which are sadly lacking basically due to 2&3

    there but for the grace of god go I

    fix the brain, fix the gut, you are 90% of the way there
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