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    I came to the US on a student visa to do my MBA. Then I worked for 4.5 years at Amazon on a visa. Amazon was willing to sponsor me for a green card but my previous experience had nothing to do with my job then. Therefore the application went nowhere. Then Amazon and I parted ways and I went to work for Microsoft. There, while on a visa, I was able to obtain a green card based on my experience at Amazon.

    One screwed up thing with the green card process (via the employer) is that you cannot use your experience at the current company to justify the green card request. You can only use experience in a previous company. So you could work for 10 years in a company A after college, get a superb experience, and only be able to use that in a green card application when you move to another company.

    The high tech companies (and I suppose the big Wall Street firms) have the most experience sponsoring their candidates, so I suspect that software engineering is the most obvious way to get a green card.
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    Oh, by the way, the first step is to religiously enter the green card lottery every year. The chances are slim, but it costs nothing to enter - you can do it easily online.

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    I have heard that Brits and Canadians are excluded form the lottery because they have so many other ways to get in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zoebird View Post
    To get started, you can check the web site that the US government has set up that goes over this business.

    From there, you'll find all kinds of links to the different kinds of visas and what you might qualify for (or not). It isn't easy to immigrate to the US if you aren't "special" in some way (in work, or a refugee, etc). You would likely require the employment visa process -- which can take years.

    I would recommend a lawyer to facilitate the process, and calling a person in the government of the region where you want to be is not a bad idea.

    Likewise, as another poster mentioned, the easiest method seems to be through NAFTA -- many people go through Canada. In fact, most of the people whom I know have gone through Canada. Of course, as mentioned, they are all specialists in medical or scientific fields, and it takes years before they have permanent residence in the US (with lots of scary visa renewals in the process -- even with jobs in medical and scientific fields in place before they immigrate).

    In addition, you're going to need a lot of money. You're going to need money to pay all of the relevant processing fees (and there are a lot of them). You're going to need money to pay the lawyer who facilitates your immigration process (lawyers are insanely expensive, but in the US, you MUST have one). And you're going to need money to demonstrate that you can support yourself for a bit once you get to the US -- even if you do have a job waiting for you when you arrive.

    While I do think it is worthwhile to live your dream, it is incredibly challenging to immigrate to the US. I know many people who have done it, but it certainly takes a lot of focus and dedication.
    Thanks for all the info Zoe

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    if you are creative and truly freedom-minded and/or an independent person, you need the US.
    I agree to a large extent. I find Americans just reflective and cool in a really natural way.

    Quote Originally Posted by JDelage View Post
    I came to the US on a student visa to do my MBA. Then I worked for 4.5 years at Amazon on a visa. Amazon was willing to sponsor me for a green card but my previous experience had nothing to do with my job then. Therefore the application went nowhere. Then Amazon and I parted ways and I went to work for Microsoft. There, while on a visa, I was able to obtain a green card based on my experience at Amazon.

    One screwed up thing with the green card process (via the employer) is that you cannot use your experience at the current company to justify the green card request. You can only use experience in a previous company. So you could work for 10 years in a company A after college, get a superb experience, and only be able to use that in a green card application when you move to another company.

    The high tech companies (and I suppose the big Wall Street firms) have the most experience sponsoring their candidates, so I suspect that software engineering is the most obvious way to get a green card.
    Quote Originally Posted by JDelage View Post
    Oh, by the way, the first step is to religiously enter the green card lottery every year. The chances are slim, but it costs nothing to enter - you can do it easily online.
    Cheers for the insight! Yeah, I entered the lottery once before. Will keep trying.

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    I have heard that Brits and Canadians are excluded form the lottery because they have so many other ways to get in.
    Don't know about that, but I'm Irish anyways, so not an issue.
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    In practice, this means that a major part of the diet should be milk, cheese, eggs, shellfish, fruits and coconut oil, with vitamin E and salt as the safest supplements."

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    How bad can ireland truly be? I always feel bad for foreigners in America. I think that all of them were duped by PR bullshit that was already obsolete and untrue in the 80s. Have you ever considered migrating to the old-style Soviet Union? If not, you should reconsider coming here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Perfidy View Post
    How bad can ireland truly be? I always feel bad for foreigners in America. I think that all of them were duped by PR bullshit that was already obsolete and untrue in the 80s. Have you ever considered migrating to the old-style Soviet Union? If not, you should reconsider coming here.
    Mr. Perfidy, you need to leave NJ ASAP - that is your problem. Truly. I left going on eight years ago now, and regained my sanity. I don't know if I would want you as my next door neighbor, but this rural county has been our salvation (each in his/her own way for the members of my family). There are more rural counties like this out there in the US - they will make you believe in old values again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Perfidy View Post
    How bad can ireland truly be? I always feel bad for foreigners in America. I think that all of them were duped by PR bullshit that was already obsolete and untrue in the 80s. Have you ever considered migrating to the old-style Soviet Union? If not, you should reconsider coming here.
    Well, there's no accounting for taste!
    "I think the basic anti-aging diet is also the best diet for prevention and treatment of diabetes, scleroderma, and the various "connective tissue diseases." This would emphasize high protein, low unsaturated fats, low iron, and high antioxidant consumption, with a moderate or low starch consumption.

    In practice, this means that a major part of the diet should be milk, cheese, eggs, shellfish, fruits and coconut oil, with vitamin E and salt as the safest supplements."

    - Ray Peat

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    Ireland has had some bit of economic upheaval, renewal, upheaval....so if that's one of your reasons for moving, I am not surprised.

    There was this article on another site, in which one of the commenters posted that she had immigrated out of the US to another country and never looked back, happy as a clam. Of course, people pestered her for details. She went on to explain how she, a born and raised US citizen, well educated structural engineer, could not find work. According to her this was due to an accident she had a child that made for a disability that, although she can walk and function, would have sent the insurance for any hiring company thru the roof -- so they were always willing to contract w/ her but w/ no benefits.

    This is a huge piece of the puzzle for our economy and a struggle for any on the hunt for work. She decided to move to Scotland; she said her education has been rewarded and not hindered by her disability (because of the subsidized health) and she's been there a happy 12 years.

    Personally, I applaud your interest in making such a big leap. I've had coworkers go to Ireland for work and they're back stateside. I would love to make such an adventurous step and move to either Canada or NZ.

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