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    MCTs cannot make you fat!?

    MCTs cannot make you fat!
    Because they have fewer carbon atoms, MCTs have a number of advantages over LCTs. Although MCTs are fat, and feel like fat in your mouth, they cannot make you fat. They resemble carbohydrates more than fat, are easy to digest, and are burned as energy—so there is no where for them to go, and no place for you body to store them.
    Medium-Chain Triglycerides (MCTs): The fat that makes you lose fat |*Smart Publications

    Is this correct as most will say, over consumption of calories do make you fat?

    The first time i tried VLC but not counting calories i didn't lose weight, 2nd time on VLC i didn't eat enough calories, just wondering others thoughts on MCTs vs saturated fats?

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    Fat is such a vague word encompassing so many different fatty acids ...
    It is all about the metabolic pathway and MCTs have a special one which will lead to ketone production by the liver.
    But as with everything, you should not indulge in some particular chemical compound. Eat real foods instead of MCT: coconut is your best bet for that, followed by dairy fat (butter or ghee, if you can call those items real foods ).

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    If something can help you lose fat, it doesn't mean that it won't make you fatter, if you overeat it. One way or another calories still count. "Calorie is a calorie" is not completely true, however if you consume 10 000 kcal a day, most of it will go into fat storage

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    1g of MCT will make itself available for burning more readily than 1g of LCT which may increase "calories out" a bit. Adding it beyond your normal fat usage probably won't help though--it still displaces the stored fat that would have been burned.
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    I heard that it might be because MCT's produce their own ketones when broken down, even if you aren't in ketosis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sting View Post
    Medium-Chain Triglycerides (MCTs): The fat that makes you lose fat |*Smart Publications

    Is this correct as most will say, over consumption of calories do make you fat?

    The first time i tried VLC but not counting calories i didn't lose weight, 2nd time on VLC i didn't eat enough calories, just wondering others thoughts on MCTs vs saturated fats?
    Utter misinformation.

    MCT's aren't used structurally like LCT's. When you consume MCT's, they go directly to the liver and are used as energy. Do you know what else does that?

    Alcohol.

    When you consume alcohol, fat metabolism is put on hold. You stop burning stored fats until the alcohol is gone, and any dietary fat you consume alongside that fat is stored as fat since it cannot be metabolized. This is what happens when you eat MCT's as well. Because they're not stored as fat, everything else you eat alongside it is. You stop burning fat, you store all the fats and carbs alongside it until the MCT's are burnt out of your system. They are the very definition of empty calories. Yes, they're advantageous in the sense that they boost your metabolic rate, but do you know what else does that, too?

    Sugar. In about the same proportion.

    Spooning MCT's into your mouth is like spooning sugar into your mouth or drinking vodka. Lots of calories, no nutrition, fat metabolism is put on hold til they're out of your system and you store the fat you eat along with it. There is no way to get around excess caloric consumption. At least with LCT's and sugars there is a chance of some of the calories will break off and be used for muscular and skeletal repair. With MCT's that really isn't the case. They're just fuel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChocoTaco369 View Post
    Utter misinformation.

    MCT's aren't used structurally like LCT's. When you consume MCT's, they go directly to the liver and are used as energy. Do you know what else does that?

    Alcohol.

    When you consume alcohol, fat metabolism is put on hold. You stop burning stored fats until the alcohol is gone, and any dietary fat you consume alongside that fat is stored as fat since it cannot be metabolized. This is what happens when you eat MCT's as well. Because they're not stored as fat, everything else you eat alongside it is. You stop burning fat, you store all the fats and carbs alongside it until the MCT's are burnt out of your system. They are the very definition of empty calories. Yes, they're advantageous in the sense that they boost your metabolic rate, but do you know what else does that, too?

    Sugar. In about the same proportion.

    Spooning MCT's into your mouth is like spooning sugar into your mouth or drinking vodka. Lots of calories, no nutrition, fat metabolism is put on hold til they're out of your system and you store the fat you eat along with it. There is no way to get around excess caloric consumption. At least with LCT's and sugars there is a chance of some of the calories will break off and be used for muscular and skeletal repair. With MCT's that really isn't the case. They're just fuel.
    This is taken from the article:

    A study at the School of Dietetics and Human Nutrition, McGill University, Quebec, Canada measured the effects that a 28-day diet rich in MCTs versus a diet rich in LCTs had on 24 overweight men. At the end of the study the men who consumed the diet high in MCTs lost more upper body fat than the men who consumed the diet high in LCTs. There was also a trend toward greater loss of whole-body fat with the MCTs. The researchers concluded that MCTs could be an aid in the prevention of obesity because they help stimulate weight loss
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    Since using coconut oil I have had exactly the same results as above, when I was spooning sugary crap in my mouth I was fat. I'd sooner trust in my real results than some scientific article you have found on the internet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldSchhool View Post
    This is taken from the article:

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    Since using coconut oil I have had exactly the same results as above, when I was spooning sugary crap in my mouth I was fat. I'd sooner trust in my real results than some scientific article you have found on the internet.
    Since winter has been over, I have lost a significant amount of fat. Therefore, winter causes fat gain and spring and summer cause fat loss.

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    Wiki

    ACADM (acyl-Coenzyme A dehydrogenase, C-4 to C-12 straight chain) is a gene that provides instructions for making an enzyme called acyl-coenzyme A dehydrogenase that is important for breaking down (degrading) a certain group of fats called medium-chain fatty acids. These fatty acids are found in foods such as milk and certain oils, and they are also stored in the body's fat tissue. Medium-chain fatty acids are also produced when larger fatty acids are degraded. The acyl-coenzyme A dehydrogenase for medium-chain fatty acids (ACADM) enzyme is essential for converting these particular fatty acids to energy, especially during periods without food (fasting)

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    Some interesting new research just published in Genes and Nutrition revealed that there may be adverse effects of MCTs based on where you store your body fat.

    It's well known that based on your gender, genetics and various hormonal and environmental factors, you may store fat either in the abdominal region and upper body or on the hips and lower body (the apple or pear shapes, respectively). It's also well known that upper body obesity is correlated with greater metabolic risks.

    In this new randomized, double-blind trial, Dutch researchers found that an MCT-based diet increased inflammation and decreased energy metabolism in adipose tissue in a group of subjects with upper body obesity. Why would MCTs have a negative effect on people with upper body obesity? The theory is that since upper body obesity is associated with non alcoholic fatty liver disease, the transport of MCT straight to the hepatic tissues may be an extra fatty acid burden to the liver.

    Two last health caveats. Those with blood sugar regulation issues should know that MCTs have been shown to raise insulin. This, by the way, may also explain why fat loss results have been inconsistent in the research. And finally, MCTs are ketogenic. As such, they should not be given to diabetics except under a physician's direct supervision.

    Hmm
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    Choco can you explain a bit more on coconut oil (medium chain fatty acids) those links you posted only mention them as Empty calories compared to your first post.

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