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    Quote Originally Posted by L0kI View Post
    And of course now I'm worried I'm taking too much... Hypochondria is really hard to manage when trying to genuinely improve health. (Thx for the update tho...)
    I have Fibro or some other idiopathic pain disorder and have been recommended Mg to mediate the pain. I've been take 450 Mag Citrate at bedtime and 100mg of malate in the morning (b/c malate seemed to disturb my sleep, citrate helps it).
    I do sometimes have this odd sensation of finding it slightly difficult to breath... Seems related to stomach discomfort though as it seems to occur only when my stomach is bothering me (upper GI distension/bloating). I'm 31 with no history of any kidney problems... Could my 550/day be a problem? Been taking it for about 4 weeks.
    No, sounds like you might have case of SIBO though, and a possible hiatal hernia..
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    Have you done a similarly detailed post on SIBO? I've seen you mention it in many of the stomach related threads, but not sure if you've done a full outline of the condition...?

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    Thank you Ron so much for taking the time to put this information up for us, and answering everyone's questions. This thread should be stickied for newbies to find, I only found it by accident!

    Since I have Fibromyalgia, and after reading your post, I will go buy some NOW brand Magnesium Malate, and take 800mg per day for 3 months, then drop it to 400mg per day. Will the malate version help with anxiety or getting quality sleep as well?

    Again, thank you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Merritt View Post
    Thank you Ron so much for taking the time to put this information up for us, and answering everyone's questions. This thread should be stickied for newbies to find, I only found it by accident!

    Since I have Fibromyalgia, and after reading your post, I will go buy some NOW brand Magnesium Malate, and take 800mg per day for 3 months, then drop it to 400mg per day. Will the malate version help with anxiety or getting quality sleep as well?

    Again, thank you!
    If you weigh more than 120, it might be beneficial to take 800 mg of malate throughout the day and 400 mg of glycinate at night. I would also suggest you take R-Lipoic Acid (Jarrow Formulas) 300 mg daily with meals to help with the nerve aspect of fibromyalgia. I would also suggest adding Ubiquinol, and NADH for energy in the morning.

    You also need to be tested for any coinfections like Epstein Barr, and lyme disease that might have caused the fibromyalgia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron_Swanson View Post
    If you weigh more than 120, it might be beneficial to take 800 mg of malate throughout the day and 400 mg of glycinate at night. I would also suggest you take R-Lipoic Acid (Jarrow Formulas) 300 mg daily with meals to help with the nerve aspect of fibromyalgia. I would also suggest adding Ubiquinol, and NADH for energy in the morning.

    You also need to be tested for any coinfections like Epstein Barr, and lyme disease that might have caused the fibromyalgia.
    Wow. You sir really know your stuff. I wouldn't even know where to look for all this information.

    I am currently at 246 lbs (and dropping!). Isn't there some concern about diarrhea at such high levels of magnesium supplementation?

    I have never even heard of R-Lipoic Acid, Ubiquinol, or NADH. I hope that my store will have them, though I kind of doubt it.. selection seems to be pretty limited unfortunately.

    I have asked my doctor to test me for Lyme, but getting anything from her is like pulling teeth. I need to find a new GP, so I'll add Epstein Barr to my list as well.

    Thank you so much for all the fantastic information! I was reading your profile, and I am really glad you managed to fix yourself up. Apparently we were born the same year
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    hey Ron, i posted this in the Natural Calm thread, but you appear much better suited to help me out.

    i've had sleep issues my entire life, mostly due to stress. i've been eating primally for about 2 years now, with great results. i have better sleep, but still not great.

    i was looking for a sleep/recovery aid to supplement the melatonin i take periodically. i read a bit about ZMA, so i bought that, and after about a week of taking it had the best, most restful sleep i've ever had in my life. that kind of tapered off, but i noticed my mood and sleep were still markedly improved.

    after i read about ZMA, i learned that magnesium was the main culprit. so i figured i would cut out the middle man and go right to magnesium, read about natural calm, decided to give it a go.

    started with 2 heaping teaspoons, and i still get the mood elevations, but i keep waking up at about 4am wide awake. i can't really fall back asleep...and it's extremely frustrating. it basically happens everyday now...as an example - went to bed yesterday at 10pm, woke up this AM at 430...and was unable to go back to sleep.

    i'm theorizing that Natural Calm is much more absorbed in the body...and therefore i may be taking too much in 2 heaping teaspoons. i will try to continue to experiment with dosage.

    but i'm wondering if anyone has had similar problems, or perhaps could comment why i had better success with ZMA vs Natural Calm. like some crack addict, i'm trying to chase that "high" aka awesome sleep that i got with ZMA. i could just go back to ZMA, but i don't like that answer, because i would preferably like to know the cause.

    perhaps i should switch to glycinate, after reading through your posts?

    thanks!!!!

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    I'm not Ron, but I also often wake up around 5 or 5:30 am, which is a pain, although I often do get back to sleep.

    (My husband does too, although in his case it's stress related. He sleeps like a baby when he doesn't have to go to work the next day.... that period in the night seems to be acutely sensitive to adrenal state).

    I take zinc now and again, having been really deficient in the not too distant past. Zinc definitely affects sleep quality with me, and it gives me weird vivid dreams if I take too much, which in my case is about 10mg or not very much at all. Before this I never had any dream recall for as long as I can remember. I prefer to get my zinc from red meat if possible, and these days that also gives me better sleep/dream recall.

    I don't understand the mechanisms, but don't discount the zinc.

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    I've been taking magnesium glycinate in the mornings, and natural calm in the evenings before bed. Unfortunately, I don't think it's helping with the sleep at all. I sleep OK, but if I have to get up to go to the bathroom, or if the cats wake me up or something, it's harder to get back to sleep.
    The glycinate will run out in a few days, and I will experiment by replacing that with malate. Not sure what I'll do when the natural calm runs out, which should be in 2-3 weeks I think.

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    thanks for the response poing. i have solid dream recall as it is, so i appreciate your point about the zinc...but don't know that it's necessary applicable here. unless the combo of the two is the difference.

    woke up at 3:30 last night...i was able to fall back asleep, but it's very segmented sleep after my initial wake up.

    the results are just so strange....

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